hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 16, 2014 14:37:32 GMT -5
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hoyainspirit
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When life puts that voodoo on me, music is my gris-gris.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Aug 21, 2014 11:09:29 GMT -5
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Aug 21, 2014 11:42:29 GMT -5
Remember when it was such a big deal that Pops and Malone had a falling out over Jeff Green and we were never going to get anyone from DCA again?
That all seems so silly in hindsight.
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Aug 21, 2014 12:21:36 GMT -5
Well it looks like bulla was right for a change.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Sept 25, 2014 8:34:09 GMT -5
Quite the expose on Joe Wootten, with a healthy dose of Curtis Malone for good measure on Deadspin today. What an ugly, sordid business elite youth basketball is.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Sept 25, 2014 10:30:22 GMT -5
Quite the expose on Joe Wootten, with a healthy dose of Curtis Malone for good measure on Deadspin today. What an ugly, sordid business elite youth basketball is. Wish I could take a shower after reading that. So depressing.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Sept 25, 2014 11:02:43 GMT -5
So what? Who cares...
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Sept 25, 2014 15:59:10 GMT -5
Plain and simply, stories like this make it difficult for me to support college basketball due to its complicity in (and contribution to) such exploitative behavior. People like Joe Wootten, Curtis Malone, and Joel Bell sink their hooks into (typically poor) kids as young as 13 and make a rich living on making sure those kids follow whatever path is most profitable to these sad, pathetic grown men. They hold themselves out as mentors and guardians to kids who desperately need mentorship and positive role models, but they are really no better than pimps. Meanwhile college basketball maintains its charade of amateurism, pushing all of this activity under the table, preventing any sort of meaningful oversight and compelling these young men to take shady deals with these hustlers. To borrow an argument from the NRA: when paying kids to play basketball is criminal, only criminals pay kids to play basketball.
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nathanhm
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Post by nathanhm on Sept 26, 2014 6:30:16 GMT -5
Clearly not you. Why not?
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Sept 26, 2014 7:03:34 GMT -5
Most of us care about integrity and treating student athletes with respect glide. Some of us even think playing by the rules is important. That is why we are here and not on some UK board. Maybe you feel differently - that is your prerogative - but don't come round implying that we are silly for caring about blatant abuses of the system and behavior that hurts student athletes. Don't imply that caring about Malone and Joe Wooten's scumbaggery is not worth the effort - have you never spoken with Big John? Pretty sure he would explain why we care.
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Post by thehandicapper on Oct 8, 2014 15:55:28 GMT -5
Plain and simply, stories like this make it difficult for me to support college basketball due to its complicity in (and contribution to) such exploitative behavior. People like Joe Wootten, Curtis Malone, and Joel Bell sink their hooks into (typically poor) kids as young as 13 and make a rich living on making sure those kids follow whatever path is most profitable to these sad, pathetic grown men. They hold themselves out as mentors and guardians to kids who desperately need mentorship and positive role models, but they are really no better than pimps. Meanwhile college basketball maintains its charade of amateurism, pushing all of this activity under the table, preventing any sort of meaningful oversight and compelling these young men to take shady deals with these hustlers. To borrow an argument from the NRA: when paying kids to play basketball is criminal, only criminals pay kids to play basketball. You can not include Wooten in the same sentence as Malone and Bell. Wooten does not attempt to profit off these kids like the other two guys. It's sad that people will believe anything they read on the internet. Etou for instance has a visa issued by the USA with a 1994 birthday. The writer does not even mention that the US issued visa is being accepted by the NCAA and Etou is playing as a 20 y/o at Rutgers. The writer to me is totally discredited when he writes about what kind of car Wooten drives and what kind of house he lives in. Amateur hour at its finest.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Oct 8, 2014 21:04:33 GMT -5
Plain and simply, stories like this make it difficult for me to support college basketball due to its complicity in (and contribution to) such exploitative behavior. People like Joe Wootten, Curtis Malone, and Joel Bell sink their hooks into (typically poor) kids as young as 13 and make a rich living on making sure those kids follow whatever path is most profitable to these sad, pathetic grown men. They hold themselves out as mentors and guardians to kids who desperately need mentorship and positive role models, but they are really no better than pimps. Meanwhile college basketball maintains its charade of amateurism, pushing all of this activity under the table, preventing any sort of meaningful oversight and compelling these young men to take shady deals with these hustlers. To borrow an argument from the NRA: when paying kids to play basketball is criminal, only criminals pay kids to play basketball. You can not include Wooten in the same sentence as Malone and Bell. Wooten does not attempt to profit off these kids like the other two guys. It's sad that people will believe anything they read on the internet. Etou for instance has a visa issued by the USA with a 1994 birthday. The writer does not even mention that the US issued visa is being accepted by the NCAA and Etou is playing as a 20 y/o at Rutgers. The writer to me is totally discredited when he writes about what kind of car Wooten drives and what kind of house he lives in. Amateur hour at its finest. So you're an O'Connell guy huh? No one else would defend Etou or Wooten.
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ksf42001
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Post by ksf42001 on Oct 8, 2014 21:10:23 GMT -5
Plain and simply, stories like this make it difficult for me to support college basketball due to its complicity in (and contribution to) such exploitative behavior. People like Joe Wootten, Curtis Malone, and Joel Bell sink their hooks into (typically poor) kids as young as 13 and make a rich living on making sure those kids follow whatever path is most profitable to these sad, pathetic grown men. They hold themselves out as mentors and guardians to kids who desperately need mentorship and positive role models, but they are really no better than pimps. Meanwhile college basketball maintains its charade of amateurism, pushing all of this activity under the table, preventing any sort of meaningful oversight and compelling these young men to take shady deals with these hustlers. To borrow an argument from the NRA: when paying kids to play basketball is criminal, only criminals pay kids to play basketball. You can not include Wooten in the same sentence as Malone and Bell. Wooten does not attempt to profit off these kids like the other two guys. It's sad that people will believe anything they read on the internet. Etou for instance has a visa issued by the USA with a 1994 birthday. The writer does not even mention that the US issued visa is being accepted by the NCAA and Etou is playing as a 20 y/o at Rutgers. The writer to me is totally discredited when he writes about what kind of car Wooten drives and what kind of house he lives in. Amateur hour at its finest. "Wooten does not attempt to profit off these kids like the other two guys." Agreed, Wooten doesn't profit off kids like Malone did. Wooten has his own ways to profit off the kids. "The writer does not even mention that the US issued visa is being accepted by the NCAA and Etou is playing as a 20 y/o at Rutgers." Too bad there's still more than enough proof that he's actually 22. Hundreds of hispanic baseball players had US Visas saying they were one age, but they later admitted they were actually older. Same thing happens in Europe with African soccer players.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Oct 9, 2014 12:56:35 GMT -5
You can not include Wooten in the same sentence as Malone and Bell. Wooten does not attempt to profit off these kids like the other two guys. It's sad that people will believe anything they read on the internet. Etou for instance has a visa issued by the USA with a 1994 birthday. The writer does not even mention that the US issued visa is being accepted by the NCAA and Etou is playing as a 20 y/o at Rutgers. The writer to me is totally discredited when he writes about what kind of car Wooten drives and what kind of house he lives in. Amateur hour at its finest. "Wooten does not attempt to profit off these kids like the other two guys." Agreed, Wooten doesn't profit off kids like Malone did. Wooten has his own ways to profit off the kids. "The writer does not even mention that the US issued visa is being accepted by the NCAA and Etou is playing as a 20 y/o at Rutgers." Too bad there's still more than enough proof that he's actually 22. Hundreds of hispanic baseball players had US Visas saying they were one age, but they later admitted they were actually older. Same thing happens in Europe with African soccer players. Also, the NCAA doesn't care how old he is as long as he's still an amateur. He could be 50 and he'd be eligible. There's no such thing as his visa being "accepted by the NCAA."
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