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Post by hoya95 on Feb 10, 2014 22:27:36 GMT -5
Sorry for jumping the gun and starting the thread, but I just had a question: When was the last time a Georgetown-St. Johns game was extremely important for both teams? I'd be stunned if it were in this century, but I honestly can't recall. Was hoping some of the Board Encyclopedias would remember. 'Cause this is a big game now!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 11, 2014 10:21:22 GMT -5
We have had success slowing Harrison. Cut off the head and the body will die. Should be an intense defensive war.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 11, 2014 10:36:51 GMT -5
Keep it a halfcourt game.
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Post by Jack on Feb 11, 2014 11:01:42 GMT -5
Sorry for jumping the gun and starting the thread, but I just had a question: When was the last time a Georgetown-St. Johns game was extremely important for both teams? I'd be stunned if it were in this century, but I honestly can't recall. Was hoping some of the Board Encyclopedias would remember. 'Cause this is a big game now! Does an NIT Final count? I sure thought it might not get any better for GU back in 2003, then ended up taking the overnight Amtrak back to DC after Sweetney, Shomnick, and Esh lost the smartest kid in summer school contest to Johnnies because I had to be at work at 6:00 AM.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2014 11:14:37 GMT -5
We have had success slowing Harrison. Cut off the head and the body will die. Should be an intense defensive war. True. But, to the great benefit of the Johnnies, he's less and less the head (and he shouldn't be). IMO, that's a part of why the other guys are contributing so much more and developing as they are. When it was just Harrison shooting regardless of how he was performing, other guys are finding their roles and Harrison is passing more. Should be a tough game.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 11, 2014 13:11:45 GMT -5
We have had success slowing Harrison. Cut off the head and the body will die. Should be an intense defensive war. True. But, to the great benefit of the Johnnies, he's less and less the head (and he shouldn't be). IMO, that's a part of why the other guys are contributing so much more and developing as they are. When it was just Harrison shooting regardless of how he was performing, other guys are finding their roles and Harrison is passing more. Should be a tough game. I mean maybe they are a little bit, but he's been the leading scorer in all of their games during this 6-1 streak except for one and he still scored double digits in that game. So he's still 100% necessary for them to win in all their games. If he has his normal performance against us aka single digits then there's no way St. John's can win.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 11, 2014 13:17:14 GMT -5
They rolled Marquette in that prelim to our game with MSU. Harrison was huge but their athletic wings were getting it done. Hit the glass and play D and I think they'll start to get Editeded off and make dumb mistakes.
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Post by hoyas1995 on Feb 11, 2014 13:38:54 GMT -5
Sorry for jumping the gun and starting the thread, but I just had a question: When was the last time a Georgetown-St. Johns game was extremely important for both teams? I'd be stunned if it were in this century, but I honestly can't recall. Was hoping some of the Board Encyclopedias would remember. 'Cause this is a big game now! Probably Iverson vs. Felipe Lopez in 94-95 Edit: St Johns was garbage in 94-95.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2014 15:37:24 GMT -5
True. But, to the great benefit of the Johnnies, he's less and less the head (and he shouldn't be). IMO, that's a part of why the other guys are contributing so much more and developing as they are. When it was just Harrison shooting regardless of how he was performing, other guys are finding their roles and Harrison is passing more. Should be a tough game. I mean maybe they are a little bit, but he's been the leading scorer in all of their games during this 6-1 streak except for one and he still scored double digits in that game. So he's still 100% necessary for them to win in all their games. If he has his normal performance against us aka single digits then there's no way St. John's can win. That's kind of what I was getting at. They need him much less than they have in the past 2 years. They can win without him scoring much. Especially if our bigs get in trouble early. I agree that it's important to still lock down Harrison as much as possible. That said, he's the type of player that, if you bother him early and he's not getting buckets, he helps the opponent out by disappearing for large stretches all by himself.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2014 15:42:53 GMT -5
They rolled Marquette in that prelim to our game with MSU. Harrison was huge but their athletic wings were getting it done. Hit the glass and play D and I think they'll start to get Editeded off and make dumb mistakes. Most that game was a cement mixer to watch. It was a good example, though, of how different a team St. John's is when they run as opposed to playing halfcourt. Keep them from running and it makes life MUCH easier on the Hoyas.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 11, 2014 18:32:10 GMT -5
Sorry for jumping the gun and starting the thread, but I just had a question: When was the last time a Georgetown-St. Johns game was extremely important for both teams? I'd be stunned if it were in this century, but I honestly can't recall. Was hoping some of the Board Encyclopedias would remember. 'Cause this is a big game now! Sweater game!
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 11, 2014 19:29:24 GMT -5
very athletic saw them before our mich state game they were 100% better than when we beat them here. Will be very tough game Need our a game hit threes great d.. hustle on and d hit the boards. .. and again ONLY FIVE OR SIX TURNOVERS> yup thats what we will need. I think we are turning out to have the best d in the league YUP BUT THEY ARE the most athletic team.. A game from all. and need to be patient and hit shots. AND RUN WHEN WE CAN. go hoyas
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 11, 2014 19:30:40 GMT -5
ps THREE POINTS OR OT if we dont wanna play on WED must win YUP the distance between like three or four and the bottom is razor thin edge go hoyas ITS FEBRUARY NOW> hoya time. for real.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2014 20:56:56 GMT -5
very athletic saw them before our mich state game they were 100% better than when we beat them here. Will be very tough game Need our a game hit threes great d.. hustle on and d hit the boards. .. and again ONLY FIVE OR SIX TURNOVERS> yup thats what we will need. I think we are turning out to have the best d in the league YUP BUT THEY ARE the most athletic team.. A game from all. and need to be patient and hit shots. AND RUN WHEN WE CAN. go hoyas Lic, I thought Harrison was better that game and that was the biggest difference. In 2 of their games since, they've looked much better on defense and Obekpa finding some offense is huge for them. It'd be similar to if Nate added 12-14 for us each night. Very different look. If the Hoyas play solid defense and we can be respectable from 3 while still creating offense as we have been, I like our chances but I expect a close game with plenty of hard fouls. These two squads looked like they really didn't like one another last game... just as a Hoyas/Johnnies game should be. Go Hoyas!!
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Post by richfame on Feb 12, 2014 8:20:18 GMT -5
As I ve mentioned in a previous thread this game really scares me. I really think we have to bring our A effort. St Johns is playing really good basketball just as we are. I think this game will say a lot as for where we are heading. If we lay an egg I can see us slipping, if we can win then it may point to a strong finish. This will be an important game to continue to separate us in the standings. The middle of the pack is so crowded. We are on the rise, St johns are on the rise, while providence is slipping to the NIT. Big game. Go hoyas.
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Post by Boz on Feb 12, 2014 9:05:11 GMT -5
I think this game will say a lot as for where we are heading. If we lay an egg I can see us slipping, if we can win then it may point to a strong finish. Well, if that ain't Hoyatalk in a nutshell, right there. I agree that it is a big game. But is is A game. It is not SIX games.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 12, 2014 9:29:08 GMT -5
I think this game will say a lot as for where we are heading. If we lay an egg I can see us slipping, if we can win then it may point to a strong finish. Well, if that ain't Hoyatalk in a nutshell, right there. I agree that it is a big game. But is is A game. It is not SIX games. Very true. Still a big game though--lot easier to get 2-3 wins out of Seton Hall/@nova/Creighton/Xavier/@marquette than it is to win 3-4 of them (depending on if you think we need to go 10-8 or 9-9 in conference).
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 12, 2014 10:12:13 GMT -5
Sure, but I'm sure many will dismiss it if we win to the fact that we match up well with St. John's and will say it proves nothing. In fact The first game that some of the people will give us credit for might be @ Marquette, maybe Creighton, in fact I was going to say the only game people are guaranteed to give us credit for winning will be @ Nova but since they may have locked up the BE title at that point they might not give us credit for that one either.
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Post by centercourt400s on Feb 12, 2014 10:33:18 GMT -5
At this point a loss to either St. John's or Seton Hall could be devastating to our NCAA hopes whereas wins will probably just keep us treading water until the Marquette/Xavier/Creighton/Villanova stretch. So essentially we've got to not lose on Sunday, and winning is just a side benefit.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 12, 2014 10:37:27 GMT -5
The Red Storm(lol) is playing well, it will be a great atmosphere for a Saturday night game in the mecca. A win won't exactly garner national attention, but it would be a solid win, it would keep our streak going, which always gets a little extra attention, and it would keep us moving up the conference standings. Not necessarily a "must win", but pretty darned important.
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