EtomicB
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Mar 25, 2014 10:43:30 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 25, 2014 10:43:30 GMT -5
It's beyond shameful that another year of eligibility has been wasted and there's still no clear indication of what he's capable of.. Smh.. You may have no idea what he's capable. I'm pretty sure the staff knows exactly where he's at. Not being nit picky but saying you're pretty sure isnt a big endorsement. . Seeing that he played the most minutes he's ever played in the last game of the year suggests otherwise in my eyes..
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 25, 2014 10:47:58 GMT -5
It's weird how his touch from the freebie line is better than when he's near the rim.. I think if he had hands like Roy, I think he would play more.. Hopefully, that is something that would get better with time. This might be because Hayes had a huge growth spurt in high school, and I seem to remember that before the growth spurt, he mostly played as a guard. If so, it would make sense that he has a pretty good free throw shot, and he's uncomfortable around the rim.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 10:50:48 GMT -5
Pretty sure we know what he can do at this point…. I don't think this is true. I think people forget how raw / inexperienced Hayes is. He played one full season in high school due to injury problems as a sophomore/junior and he wasn't a big until he had a major growth spurt his junior year. There's definitely still room for growth if he works at it. I watched a few of his games in HS, I know. He was injured his Junior year I think the growth spurt happened Soph season but either way he missed a lot of time that’s correct. He could be good if he continues to work on his game but right now he looks like a raw but athletic big. I like his potential, but I liked it in HS as well. Aside from fundamental improvements he looks like the same guy in limited minutes
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 25, 2014 10:52:20 GMT -5
You may have no idea what he's capable. I'm pretty sure the staff knows exactly where he's at. Not being nit picky but saying you're pretty sure isnt a big endorsement. . Seeing that he played the most minutes he's ever played in the last game of the year suggests otherwise in my eyes.. You do realize that he plays most of his basketball not in games, right? I think Hayes could develop, but he's got a long way to go.
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EtomicB
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B. Hayes
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 25, 2014 11:32:03 GMT -5
Not being nit picky but saying you're pretty sure isnt a big endorsement. . Seeing that he played the most minutes he's ever played in the last game of the year suggests otherwise in my eyes.. You do realize that he plays most of his basketball not in games, right? I think Hayes could develop, but he's got a long way to go. Of course I get this SF and I also get how bad Moses is and has been.. On that alone Hayes should have been given a shot.. Honestly I'm more upset that the staff didn't have the foresight to RS him in one of the last two seasons..
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Post by hoopsmccan on Mar 25, 2014 11:43:28 GMT -5
Hayes's hands are terrible, but there were some odd decisions by our guards, especially DSR. Feeds to the post that we haven't seen all year. There was no chance that Hayes was finishing them. Moses is in a class by himself though. Every rebound is an adventure. For many reasons, I wish I had a tape of last year's game at Syracuse; among the reasons is to watch how Moses was such a strong rebounder that game.
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Post by chep3 on Mar 25, 2014 13:03:24 GMT -5
His lateral movement stinks. He picked up a couple fouls last night on that alone. Offensively, he has nothing. I think I would let Moses graduate and give his minutes to Hayes next year as they are both fouling machines. Hopkins propensity to foul is insane. None of those calls were bad last night against him. We will need Josh for O next year but we will need scoring out of Copeland & White both inside & out to be more balanced. It also wouldn't hurt if our knock down shooter recruits (Cameron & Domingo) could actually knock them down Florida State style. With the senior class and all the recruits there will be a ton of turnover. With the optional turnover (RS seniors) and the inevitable transfer which seems to happen with every program every year, I hope we can find depth with a 5th year inside presence somewhere. I don't disagree with this. In his defense though, he doesn't seem to make the absurd reach-in/swipe attempts that Hop and Lubick do, and he knows to stay on the ground and use his length as an asset. I think he has decent defensive instincts, but definitely agree that he has a ways to go before he's a consistent contributor. More confident that he can get there than I was before though.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 25, 2014 13:26:47 GMT -5
His lateral movement stinks. He picked up a couple fouls last night on that alone. Offensively, he has nothing. I think I would let Moses graduate and give his minutes to Hayes next year as they are both fouling machines. Hopkins propensity to foul is insane. None of those calls were bad last night against him. We will need Josh for O next year but we will need scoring out of Copeland & White both inside & out to be more balanced. It also wouldn't hurt if our knock down shooter recruits (Cameron & Domingo) could actually knock them down Florida State style. With the senior class and all the recruits there will be a ton of turnover. With the optional turnover (RS seniors) and the inevitable transfer which seems to happen with every program every year, I hope we can find depth with a 5th year inside presence somewhere. I don't disagree with this. In his defense though, he doesn't seem to make the absurd reach-in/swipe attempts that Hop and Lubick do, and he knows to stay on the ground and use his length as an asset. I think he has decent defensive instincts, but definitely agree that he has a ways to go before he's a consistent contributor. More confident that he can get there than I was before though. I have faith in Reggie to be our sharpshooter. Kid has the innate ability to known down 45% from 3, you can see it when he sets his feet. In the offseason he has to go on the DSR summer regimen, lose a few lbs and gain muscle. If Reggie can get into better shape and minimize his defensive deficiencies, I think he is a key piece for this team going forward. He is a pure shooter and may be the only pure shooter we have on the squad next year (DSR great shooter, but all-around scorer). The problem has been, is, and will remain, our lack of a serviceable 5 man. If Josh screws up again, we'll be left with Hopkins at the 5...again...and we'll encounter the same type of problems we've encountered throughout this year. Good freshmen are great, but they are freshmen and will need time to develop.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 25, 2014 15:43:47 GMT -5
I don't disagree with this. In his defense though, he doesn't seem to make the absurd reach-in/swipe attempts that Hop and Lubick do, and he knows to stay on the ground and use his length as an asset. I think he has decent defensive instincts, but definitely agree that he has a ways to go before he's a consistent contributor. More confident that he can get there than I was before though. I have faith in Reggie to be our sharpshooter. Kid has the innate ability to known down 45% from 3, you can see it when he sets his feet. In the offseason he has to go on the DSR summer regimen, lose a few lbs and gain muscle. If Reggie can get into better shape and minimize his defensive deficiencies, I think he is a key piece for this team going forward. He is a pure shooter and may be the only pure shooter we have on the squad next year (DSR great shooter, but all-around scorer). The problem has been, is, and will remain, our lack of a serviceable 5 man. If Josh screws up again, we'll be left with Hopkins at the 5...again...and we'll encounter the same type of problems we've encountered throughout this year. Good freshmen are great, but they are freshmen and will need time to develop. It'd be nice to have a 6'8 version of Luke Hancock. Hopefully Reggie can become that guy
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 25, 2014 16:00:48 GMT -5
I have faith in Reggie to be our sharpshooter. Kid has the innate ability to known down 45% from 3, you can see it when he sets his feet. In the offseason he has to go on the DSR summer regimen, lose a few lbs and gain muscle. If Reggie can get into better shape and minimize his defensive deficiencies, I think he is a key piece for this team going forward. He is a pure shooter and may be the only pure shooter we have on the squad next year (DSR great shooter, but all-around scorer). The problem has been, is, and will remain, our lack of a serviceable 5 man. If Josh screws up again, we'll be left with Hopkins at the 5...again...and we'll encounter the same type of problems we've encountered throughout this year. Good freshmen are great, but they are freshmen and will need time to develop. It'd be nice to have a 6'8 version of Luke Hancock. Hopefully Reggie can become that guy he also has to work on getting his shot off more quickly while still staying in rhythm. I heard Steph Curry (remember him?!@#$%^&*) talking about how he practices by getting his shot off exaggeratingly quick, so that he can shoot quickly in games and yet feel like he is actually slowing down and controlling his shot. With Reggie's height, he has that extra tick to get off a shot and still get it over most defenders.
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Post by dreamhoya on Mar 25, 2014 20:01:45 GMT -5
hayes does not have "terrible" hands. he plays more and we'll see that. just needs to play more. i like the way he rebounded yesterday.
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Post by 3GenerationHoya on Aug 19, 2014 10:32:14 GMT -5
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Post by dungeon ball on Aug 19, 2014 10:41:21 GMT -5
So weird. Never even knew these kind of teams/tours existed. I'm wondering if JTIII is really trying to push Hayes to another level and trying to get him as much game experience that he can before the season begins.
Have any other Hoyas done this in recent memory?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 19, 2014 10:41:43 GMT -5
Weird. How did they pick this team? Glad he's getting some experience, but just seems super random.
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Post by bicentennial on Aug 19, 2014 11:03:32 GMT -5
Tavaras Hardy probably knows Patrick Baldwin from when he coached at Northwestern. So probably not random!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 12:29:10 GMT -5
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Post by dungeon ball on Aug 20, 2014 10:25:29 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Dec 7, 2014 20:46:56 GMT -5
Bump.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Feb 11, 2015 8:32:11 GMT -5
The Big men are consistently getting in foul trouble. Bradley Hayes need to get more time. Not sure why he doesn't play. Copeland got a chance, got some confidence and has been on a role ever since. Give the Kid a chance to get some confidence.
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B. Hayes
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 11, 2015 8:42:22 GMT -5
The Big men are consistently getting in foul trouble. Bradley Hayes need to get more time. Not sure why he doesn't play. Copeland got a chance, got some confidence and has been on a role ever since. Give the Kid a chance to get some confidence. Did you watch the game last night? Hayes was simply not very effective. Thats why he doesn't play. Hayes did get a chance last night and he didn't do well enough to warrant more playing time in a game where both of our key front court players were in foul trouble.
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