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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 29, 2005 1:49:21 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 29, 2005 13:57:17 GMT -5
Good finds, Dan. I hope that Esherick or Dickerson gets the job, although I'd like to see Esherick get a job where there is so-called "institutional support," such as UVA. Let's put all factors in his favor and see what happens. I hope he succeeds, no doubt, but my sense of reality belies this hope. As RDF pointed out, a member of the press has already chimed in with his editorial perspective on this Tulane matter.
If Dickerson is hired, that helps us because Gary will need to replace two assistants, with the other going to Vermont to replace Brennan.
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 29, 2005 14:10:46 GMT -5
I hope Esherick gets the job. He's a class individual despite his not very successful run as Hoya head coach. I wish him well.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 29, 2005 14:20:48 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 29, 2005 15:19:20 GMT -5
Thats not true at all. In fact, the recruiting got better when Dickerson came on board. Gary has been known to be a subpar recruiter. Gary's philosophy is to get the Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, and Lonny Baxter types, guys who you can develop and play all 4 years, rather than the McD's type recruits. Yeah, and he won a national title with them. With his McD's AA's he got a couple of extremely overrated players, missed the tourney and missed out on Rudy Gay, Jeff Green, Brian Johnson and doesn't seem to have much of an angle on Lawson, Durant, Smith, Beasley, Wright, etc. |
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Post by Fan Of The Game on Mar 29, 2005 15:23:32 GMT -5
I'm with the_way on this one. Dickerson is a strong assistant. His flaw has probably been that he's thought too highly of himself as he had previously made it clear that he would only leave Maryland to become the Head Coach of a major program. Unfortunately, few major programs want a guy with no head coaching experience. I'm glad to see his standards have lowered.
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Post by the_way on Mar 29, 2005 15:31:44 GMT -5
Yeah, and he won a national title with them. With his McD's AA's he got a couple of extremely overrated players, missed the tourney and missed out on Rudy Gay, Jeff Green, Brian Johnson and doesn't seem to have much of an angle on Lawson, Durant, Smith, Beasley, Wright, etc. You are right. That type of recruiting works in the 2000's. But in the mid-90's when Duke and UNC were getting blue-chippers and NCAA teams where keeping players longer before going into the NBA draft, Maryland was getting second-fiddle players. Joe Smith turned out great, but nobody saw that coming. A lot of Terp fans were angry at Gary for not getting more blue-chippers like Duke, UNC, and Wake Forest. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 29, 2005 15:41:47 GMT -5
You are right. That type of recruiting works in the 2000's. But in the mid-90's when Duke and UNC were getting blue-chippers and NCAA teams where keeping players longer before going into the NBA draft, Maryland was getting second-fiddle players. Joe Smith turned out great, but nobody saw that coming. A lot of Terp fans were angry at Gary for not getting more blue-chippers like Duke, UNC, and Wake Forest. True, and Maryland has gotten better recruiting classes in regards to the rankings. But many of their players were overrated or just plain soft. If I were a Maryland fan, I don't think I could like that team. NCM is a jerk, from all published reports, Gilchrist a headcase, Garrison soft as Terrance Morris... |
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Post by the_way on Mar 29, 2005 15:58:38 GMT -5
True, and Maryland has gotten better recruiting classes in regards to the rankings. But many of their players were overrated or just plain soft. If I were a Maryland fan, I don't think I could like that team. NCM is a jerk, from all published reports, Gilchrist a headcase, Garrison soft as Terrance Morris... You are right. I think the talent is the best overall talent Maryland has had in years. But there is no heart or leadership. DJ Strawberry is the only player who really has heart and plays mentally-tough 100 % of the time. The rest of them play when they feel like it. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 30, 2005 7:13:51 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 30, 2005 10:00:46 GMT -5
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 30, 2005 10:34:51 GMT -5
I just tried to get a feel for who the Tulane fans wanted by looking at their board, and man was it hard. That board just makes me feel lucky to have such a well setup and run board and with posters that actually write thoughtful posts.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 30, 2005 16:39:04 GMT -5
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Post by Bay99 on Mar 31, 2005 3:29:56 GMT -5
Gary has been known to be a subpar recruiter. Gary's philosophy is to get the Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, and Lonny Baxter types, guys who you can develop and play all 4 years, rather than the McD's type recruits. If Comic Book Guy was a Hoyatalk poster, he'd be all over this one: Worst. Segue. Ever. Blake, Dixon and Baxter were the cornerstones of a National Championship. That's sub-par recruiting? |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 31, 2005 7:53:43 GMT -5
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Post by the_way on Mar 31, 2005 9:31:42 GMT -5
If Comic Book Guy was a Hoyatalk poster, he'd be all over this one: Worst. Segue. Ever. Blake, Dixon and Baxter were the cornerstones of a National Championship. That's sub-par recruiting? I'm talking about how Gary doesn't get the blue-chippers coming out of high school. Blake, Dixon, and Baxter weren't high on the radar of most major division one programs. Blake was rated the highest. Yet Gary developed Baxter into 2-time Regional MVP, and Dixon into a Final Four MVP. When guys were staying in college in the 90's Gary was failing in landing the big-time recruits, while UNC and Duke were stockpiling. When Gary and Terps would lose to UNC and Duke, terp fans would complain that Gary wasn't getting the blue-chippers to be competitive enough. |
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 31, 2005 15:27:41 GMT -5
FWIW... The NOLA boards think that the job is down to Everhart and Dickerson.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 31, 2005 16:25:15 GMT -5
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Post by the_way on Mar 31, 2005 16:29:38 GMT -5
Maryland is at crossroads right now. With G'town and GW on the horizon, Maryland better look out. Both G'town and GW are still building their programs. Maryland was suppose to be a top 10 this year. This was suppose to be their year. Its not like they are rebuilding. They way they struggled this year is alarming for Terp fans. They have basically the same team next year with the top 2 assistants possibly gone and their top and only legit PG possibly gone. |
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Post by Joe Hoya on Mar 31, 2005 18:53:36 GMT -5
I figure Dickerson will get the job. If it was gonna be Craig, they probably would have already announced it yesterday or today. But since Maryland has a game tonight, they won't do anything until tomorrow.
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