Joshua Reaves - 6'4 SG '15 verbals to Penn State

[blueandgray]

Need to start tracking this kid more seriously. His recruitment is picking up. What do the gurus know about his game?

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He’s an athlete more than a BBall player at this point… If he can get some consistency on his jumper and improve his handle, watch out….

[BeatDuke]

If you can stand the shaky hand, there's a few examples in here of the type of athlete he is. Very active.

[EtomicB]

Jan 8, 2014 14:58:29 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

He’s an athlete more than a BBall player at this point… If he can get some consistency on his jumper and improve his handle, watch out….

Yaboy, how did Reaves look?

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Jan 9, 2014 21:49:39 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

Jan 8, 2014 14:58:29 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

He’s an athlete more than a BBall player at this point… If he can get some consistency on his jumper and improve his handle, watch out….

Yaboy, how did Reaves look?

He looked good. As usual he excelled in transition and defensively he did a good job on Trimble when he guarded him. In the halfcourt he did not do too much.

[Talos]

It seems we are looking hard at a nice group of long, athletic SGs for 2015.  For those who have seen some of these kids in person, who is your preference?  From just looking at highlight videos, this is my order:

1. Bacon (seems to have the highest upside)
2. Mann
3. Reaves
4. Howard

[EtomicB]

Jan 11, 2014 11:34:58 GMT -5 Talos said:

It seems we are looking hard at a nice group of long, athletic SGs for 2015.  For those who have seen some of these kids in person, who is your preference?  From just looking at highlight videos, this is my order:

1. Bacon (seems to have the highest upside)
2. Mann
3. Reaves
4. Howard

My preference would be this..

1. Mann
2. Reaves
3. Howard
4. Bacon

Every thing I read about Mann talks about his high IQ on the court and how he's just about winning. I like that his Mother is a coach too.. Reaves seems like a classic late bloomer who's just coming into his own..

I don't have a feel for Howard but a few respected posters on this board and others don't think he'll be a Hoya.. I think Bacon's agenda is to get to the pro's 1st & foremost so I'd pass..

[IDenj]

It doesn't sound right but I wan Mann.

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Bacon
Howard
Trier
Mann
Reaves.

From a pure basketball standpoint Trier is better than Howard at this stage, but I always like Howard

[MCIGuy]

Jan 11, 2014 11:48:04 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

Jan 11, 2014 11:34:58 GMT -5 Talos said:

It seems we are looking hard at a nice group of long, athletic SGs for 2015.  For those who have seen some of these kids in person, who is your preference?  From just looking at highlight videos, this is my order:

1. Bacon (seems to have the highest upside)
2. Mann
3. Reaves
4. Howard

My preference would be this..

1. Mann
2. Reaves
3. Howard
4. Bacon

Every thing I read about Mann talks about his high IQ on the court and how he's just about winning. I like that his Mother is a coach too.. Reaves seems like a classic late bloomer who's just coming into his own..

I don't have a feel for Howard but a few respected posters on this board and others don't think he'll be a Hoya.. I think Bacon's agenda is to get to the pro's 1st & foremost so I'd pass..

I feel the total opposite regarding Bacon. If he is good enough to go to the pros as soon as possible and isn't some sort of entitled jerk in the process, then come on down. Because if he did indeed go pro after one season or so and was drafted in the first round of the NBA that would suggest he has loads of talent. And THIS program needs to keep brining that type of talent in. It needs to do so to ensure that the program thrives and is a success which helps make the new Big East a success. Talented players draw the attention of the media and the viewers. Talented players help keeps a team relevant. Also since III appears to play the same halfcourt style regardless of who is on his squad, the Hoyas will need a number of talented wings to create in the offense if III doesn't bring in big men who could draw attention from defenses (because hoping for backdoor cuts to open up is simply a terrible strategy).

I'm all for getting Mann. I'm all for getting Howard too. Reaves? I don't know yet. I don't know if the guy can create enough in the halfcourt. His strength may be in a more wide open, up and down structure and until proven otherwise III has little appeitite for that style of play.

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Jan 11, 2014 11:48:04 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

Jan 11, 2014 11:34:58 GMT -5 Talos said:

It seems we are looking hard at a nice group of long, athletic SGs for 2015.  For those who have seen some of these kids in person, who is your preference?  From just looking at highlight videos, this is my order:

1. Bacon (seems to have the highest upside)
2. Mann
3. Reaves
4. Howard

My preference would be this..

1. Mann
2. Reaves
3. Howard
4. Bacon

Every thing I read about Mann talks about his high IQ on the court and how he's just about winning. I like that his Mother is a coach too.. Reaves seems like a classic late bloomer who's just coming into his own..

I don't have a feel for Howard but a few respected posters on this board and others don't think he'll be a Hoya.. I think Bacon's agenda is to get to the pro's 1st & foremost so I'd pass..

Is that a bad thing though? Getting a guard to the league would be huge for recruiting…

[MCIGuy]

Jan 11, 2014 13:00:06 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Jan 11, 2014 11:48:04 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

My preference would be this..

1. Mann
2. Reaves
3. Howard
4. Bacon

Every thing I read about Mann talks about his high IQ on the court and how he's just about winning. I like that his Mother is a coach too.. Reaves seems like a classic late bloomer who's just coming into his own..

I don't have a feel for Howard but a few respected posters on this board and others don't think he'll be a Hoya.. I think Bacon's agenda is to get to the pro's 1st & foremost so I'd pass..

Is that a bad thing though? Getting a guard to the league would be huge for recruiting…

This is not to say that EtomicB feels that way, but quite a few Hoya fans could care less about that because they don't care about the NBA and don't seem to grasp the big picture. What they want are guys who stay four years at Gtown even if they have top shelf talent and abilities. They are thrilled when they come away with the impression that highly regarded Gtown recruits may be tweeners because that gives them hope that those dudes will stick around long enough to graduate.

[EtomicB]

Jan 11, 2014 12:53:32 GMT -5 MCIGuy said:

Jan 11, 2014 11:48:04 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

My preference would be this..

1. Mann
2. Reaves
3. Howard
4. Bacon

Every thing I read about Mann talks about his high IQ on the court and how he's just about winning. I like that his Mother is a coach too.. Reaves seems like a classic late bloomer who's just coming into his own..

I don't have a feel for Howard but a few respected posters on this board and others don't think he'll be a Hoya.. I think Bacon's agenda is to get to the pro's 1st & foremost so I'd pass..

I feel the total opposite regarding Bacon. If he is good enough to go to the pros as soon as possible and isn't some sort of entitled jerk in the process, then come on down. Because if he did indeed go pro after one season or so and was drafted in the first round of the NBA that would suggest he has loads of talent. And THIS program needs to keep brining that type of talent in. It needs to do so to ensure that the program thrives and is a success which helps make the new Big East a success. Talented players draw the attention of the media and the viewers. Talented players help keeps a team relevant. Also since III appears to play the same halfcourt style regardless of who is on his squad, the Hoyas will need a number of talented wings to create in the offense if III doesn't bring in big men who could draw attention from defenses (because hoping for backdoor cuts to open up is simply a terrible strategy).

I'm all for getting Mann. I'm all for getting Howard too. Reaves? I don't know yet. I don't know if the guy can create enough in the halfcourt. His strength may be in a more wide open, up and down structure and until proven otherwise III has little appeitite for that style of play.

I didn't state that bacon wanted to get to the pros as soon as possible MCI, I said I think he wants to get there 1st & foremost..

As talented as he is, I don't think Bacon is a one & done player. Even if you put him at SG position for the 2015 class, he'd be ranked 6th or 7th at that position. His composite rating is approx 28 right now, that's not 1 & done material in my opinion.

I just don't like the "I'm a pg" now thing, I believe it's shortsighted. He's a young kid who should be encouraged to be the best player he can be on the court, forget about position.. At 6-6 if he's good enough to make the pros, they'll figure out a place to slot him regardless of what his HS or College position was..

I'm a realist when I look at recruiting, who I think will come here plays a big part in who I like.. I've read in a few places that Howard won't be a Hoya, the folks admit it's a hunch but they're not hopeful.

I think Mann & Reaves are the staff's best shots and if Trier were listed I'd put him behind reaves on my list..

This team will be much faster the next few seasons simply because the players are much more athletic & skilled than the current group.. A kid like Peak is similar to Jabril or Bowen in terms of athleticism but he's much more skilled in using it.

White, Copeland are just better in both areas and Tre is a blur.. Even in half-court play the team will appear much faster

[Talos]

Jan 11, 2014 12:53:32 GMT -5 MCIGuy said:

Jan 11, 2014 11:48:04 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

My preference would be this..

1. Mann
2. Reaves
3. Howard
4. Bacon

Every thing I read about Mann talks about his high IQ on the court and how he's just about winning. I like that his Mother is a coach too.. Reaves seems like a classic late bloomer who's just coming into his own..

I don't have a feel for Howard but a few respected posters on this board and others don't think he'll be a Hoya.. I think Bacon's agenda is to get to the pro's 1st & foremost so I'd pass..

I feel the total opposite regarding Bacon. If he is good enough to go to the pros as soon as possible and isn't some sort of entitled jerk in the process, then come on down. Because if he did indeed go pro after one season or so and was drafted in the first round of the NBA that would suggest he has loads of talent. And THIS program needs to keep brining that type of talent in. It needs to do so to ensure that the program thrives and is a success which helps make the new Big East a success. Talented players draw the attention of the media and the viewers. Talented players help keeps a team relevant. Also since III appears to play the same halfcourt style regardless of who is on his squad, the Hoyas will need a number of talented wings to create in the offense if III doesn't bring in big men who could draw attention from defenses (because hoping for backdoor cuts to open up is simply a terrible strategy).

I'm all for getting Mann. I'm all for getting Howard too. Reaves? I don't know yet. I don't know if the guy can create enough in the halfcourt. His strength may be in a more wide open, up and down structure and until proven otherwise III has little appeitite for that style of play.

Agreed on all your points.  I think a one-and-done guard would be great for the program.  Great exposure and attention for the program and the BE, and may help dispel the perception that GU's system restrains explosive guards.  

Regardless, it seems we might be in decent shape with two of the four and would love to get any of these kids.  Unfortunately, none of them can play the 5.....

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[EtomicB]

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Josh Reaves (Pictured at Top) 6’4 Junior Paul VI
Tarin Smith (Pictured Above) 6’2 Unsigned Sr St Anthonys

Reaves proved to be the ultimate glue guy. You never have to run a play for him, but he always produces. On defense he does well both on and off the ball with his length and relentless motor.
14 points 9 boards

Really like the way Josh is improving.. If he gets his handle tighter, specifically going to his right he'll be a very nice player in college

[CaliHoya]

We need more guys who create their own opportunities. Especially like guys who create production off the glass.

[hoyajmw]

I saw Reaves play last night in the loss to St. John's, and WOW was I impressed. GREAT hops (had a couple down low blocks early in the game) and his five baskets/ten points were a varitey of things of beauty... He picked up an ill-advised third foul mid-way through the second quarter and sat from there for the rest of the half and seemed to play a little cautiously the rest of the way a a result, so the early "Who is THAT GUY?" element receded some as the game went on -- but I now know why this kid is now first team All-Met watch in the Post, and I'm betting he's one of the main reasons Broadus and JTIII were both at the game last night (and to show some love to Tre Campbell and Marcus Derrickson too I'm sure). I didn't get a chance to just watch him at both ends the way I might (was watching others) and dont' have anything much insightful really to say about overall skill set -- but as raw talent goes, he has it...

[hoyajmw]

To warm up for trip to NYC today, I caught Paul VI vs Gonzaga last night, and saw Reaves just dominate at both ends in little more than a half of playing time in "name your margin of victory" win. He had 17 points, about 5 assists, 3-4 blocks, maybe half dozen boards and numerous quick release fast breaks . But stats don't really tell the tale. He had 3 alley oop baskets on explosions to the rim, and woulda been 4 if he'd been able to complete the 270 spin move ("too much french pastry" to steal an old school line). The blocks were both down low quick off his feet leaps and one flying in from the wing eye-catcher. He started the game with a feathery 3 to open the scoring. And that was after he jumped center. I hadnt appreciated how long his arms are, which lets him play on the baseline on defense like he is a big man. Had nice chemistry with Derrickson too, on some feeds to one another in the half court set to try to get lay-ups. I think he'd like the JT IiII offense, and maybe the idea of playing with Derrickson will have some appeal (says the cock-eyed optimist). Anyone local should try to see this kid play (next Friday is a rematch with O'connell, and sunday at Dmatha). Seeing how/if he matches up with Trimble will be especially interesting/maybe telling...

[Talos]

Feb 1, 2014 8:01:11 GMT -5 hoyajmw said:

To warm up for trip to NYC today, I caught Paul VI vs Gonzaga last night, and saw Reaves just dominate at both ends in little more than a half of playing time in "name your margin of victory" win. He had 17 points, about 5 assists, 3-4 blocks, maybe half dozen boards and numerous quick release fast breaks . But stats don't really tell the tale. He had 3 alley oop baskets on explosions to the rim, and woulda been 4 if he'd been able to complete the 270 spin move ("too much french pastry" to steal an old school line). The blocks were both down low quick off his feet leaps and one flying in from the wing eye-catcher. He started the game with a feathery 3 to open the scoring. And that was after he jumped center. I hadnt appreciated how long his arms are, which lets him play on the baseline on defense like he is a big man. Had nice chemistry with Derrickson too, on some feeds to one another in the half court set to try to get lay-ups. I think he'd like the JT IiII offense, and maybe the idea of playing with Derrickson will have some appeal (says the cock-eyed optimist). Anyone local should try to see this kid play (next Friday is a rematch with O'connell, and sunday at Dmatha). Seeing how/if he matches up with Trimble will be especially interesting/maybe telling...

Thanks for the in-person report; it's much appreciated.  What position does he play for them?  I'm assuming we're recruiting him as a 2 at the college level, but wondering if he's showing 2 skills at this point.