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Post by EtomicB on Jul 9, 2014 17:37:12 GMT -5
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops 50s Dwayne Bacon off to a great start. Just slaying it early. Move to five-star status looks like correct call. #breakout14
Alex Kline @therecruitscoop 2m 2015 SG Dwayne Bacon is having an Isaiah Whitehead'esk spring & summer. Scoring at will & using his body to his advantage. #Breakout14
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 18:09:36 GMT -5
Ben Roberts @nextcats 7h Among the 2015 recruits Cal could see in Philly: Diamond Stone, Skal Labissiere, Derrick Jones, P.J. Dozier, Dwayne Bacon. 2014 Reebok Breakout Classic: Preview: f150.ws/1ojpZvt via @future150 DWAYNE BACON AT THE HEAD OF THE LIST!!! Future150.com @future150 35m Dwayne Bacon absolutely dominating right now. Playing big boy ball and getting whatever he wants. #Breakout14 Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 1m Kevin Ollie here for Steven Enoch and Dwayne Bacon #Breakout14 Breakout Classic @breakoutclassic 51s Dwayne Bacon (@bacondwayne1000) is attracting large audiences of head coaches. Has had a fantastic spring/summer on the circuit. #Breakout14 Philadelphia, PA
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 9, 2014 20:08:51 GMT -5
Does he have a list out yet? Going back in this thread the most recent I could find is us and LVille are on him the hardest. Now that we are missing out on Trier, he is one of my favorites.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 9, 2014 20:24:54 GMT -5
Does he have a list out yet? Going back in this thread the most recent I could find is us and LVille are on him the hardest. Now that we are missing out on Trier, he is one of my favorites. He's better than trier, been better.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 9, 2014 21:06:43 GMT -5
The kid is talented no doubt but he's playing against kids who are 2-3 classes behind him so it's easy to see why he's physically dominant..
According to NBA draftnet Bacon's B'day is 8/30/95, he should have been part of the 2013 grad class..
He'll be a 20 year old freshman, a lot of that physical dominance will go out the window the moment he steps on a college court imo..
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Post by jester on Jul 9, 2014 21:48:02 GMT -5
Thats old. like hibbert senior yr old.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 10, 2014 6:03:56 GMT -5
Thats old. like hibbert senior yr old. He'll graduate at 19. That's not absurdly old, it's like one year older if even.
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Post by fanofjack on Jul 10, 2014 6:24:25 GMT -5
The kid was born while I was a sophomore and we're calling HIM old... I feel older than dirt myself now!
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 10, 2014 6:42:22 GMT -5
Thats old. like hibbert senior yr old. He'll graduate at 19. That's not absurdly old, it's like one year older if even. Yes, but he'll be 20 when he starts college as mentioned earlier. Isn't that "old" for a frosh? I graduated GU at twenty, but then again I was a band geek. . . ha ha ha.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 10, 2014 6:47:05 GMT -5
I like the idea of getting an older freshman, one that comes in and is not intimidated by older college players. GU seems to get more than our share of younger freshman players.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 10, 2014 7:07:15 GMT -5
He'll graduate at 19. That's not absurdly old, it's like one year older if even. Yes, but he'll be 20 when he starts college as mentioned earlier. Isn't that "old" for a frosh? I graduated GU at twenty, but then again I was a band geek. . . ha ha ha. It's like a year older, he has a summer birthday and is on pace to graduate GU at 23. Sure it's not your ideal 22, but it's not like he has some unheard of advantage to be able to do the things he does on the court.
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 10, 2014 10:01:56 GMT -5
Thats old. like hibbert senior yr old. He'll graduate at 19. That's not absurdly old, it's like one year older if even. You're fudging the numbers a little Rock, he'll be 19 years & 9 months when graduates HS.. Kids who were born in 95 should have graduated in 2013.. Look at the Freshman lotto picks in this years NBA Draft and you'll see that Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Gordon, Vonleh, Levine & Young were all born in 95 too.. They graduated in 2013.. Bacon is 2 years behind his class right now and it gives him a big advantage in my eyes.. He's very talented and a high major kid but his age has to be factored in seeing that he plays a physical style of ball, it's not crazy to wonder how much of it translates to college ball.. Out of curiosity I looked up Derrickson & Govan.. Marcus was born in 96 which means he either started late or lost a year somewhere along the way.. Govan was born in 97, same with Dickerson & Rabb
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 10, 2014 10:20:49 GMT -5
I think that advantage doesn't completely disappear in college. It's something NBA evaluators have to keep in mind much more than college coaches.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jul 10, 2014 10:22:10 GMT -5
If we can get him on campus for a visit, it would be easy enough to run him at Jabril and see what happens.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 10, 2014 11:30:49 GMT -5
He'll graduate at 19. That's not absurdly old, it's like one year older if even. You're fudging the numbers a little Rock, he'll be 19 years & 9 months when graduates HS.. Kids who were born in 95 should have graduated in 2013.. Look at the Freshman lotto picks in this years NBA Draft and you'll see that Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Gordon, Vonleh, Levine & Young were all born in 95 too.. They graduated in 2013.. Bacon is 2 years behind his class right now and it gives him a big advantage in my eyes.. He's very talented and a high major kid but his age has to be factored in seeing that he plays a physical style of ball, it's not crazy to wonder how much of it translates to college ball.. Out of curiosity I looked up Derrickson & Govan.. Marcus was born in 96 which means he either started late or lost a year somewhere along the way.. Govan was born in 97, same with Dickerson & Rabb I understand but some/most of those guys were drafted at 19. If Bacon were to be a one and done he'd be drafted at 20. Sucks that he has an August birthday, but it's not as big a gap as it could be and was born in the spring. At the most it's a one year advantage, maybe two if you want to bend the numbers.
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Post by daymondmyles on Jul 10, 2014 11:31:18 GMT -5
Sean Kilpatrick was like 25 when he entered Cincy and he turned out alright. Could he be Felipe Lopez? I mean, I guess. But I'd take that even.
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Post by Buckets on Jul 10, 2014 11:33:40 GMT -5
I think that advantage doesn't completely disappear in college. It's something NBA evaluators have to keep in mind much more than college coaches. Like if you're gonna draft freshman OJ Mayo over sophomore Russell Westbrook even though Mayo's a year older, or take a guy like Hansbrough or McGary.
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 10, 2014 12:13:38 GMT -5
You're fudging the numbers a little Rock, he'll be 19 years & 9 months when graduates HS.. Kids who were born in 95 should have graduated in 2013.. Look at the Freshman lotto picks in this years NBA Draft and you'll see that Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Gordon, Vonleh, Levine & Young were all born in 95 too.. They graduated in 2013.. Bacon is 2 years behind his class right now and it gives him a big advantage in my eyes.. He's very talented and a high major kid but his age has to be factored in seeing that he plays a physical style of ball, it's not crazy to wonder how much of it translates to college ball.. Out of curiosity I looked up Derrickson & Govan.. Marcus was born in 96 which means he either started late or lost a year somewhere along the way.. Govan was born in 97, same with Dickerson & Rabb I understand but some/most of those guys were drafted at 19. If Bacon were to be a one and done he'd be drafted at 20. Sucks that he has an August birthday, but it's not as big a gap as it could be and was born in the spring. At the most it's a one year advantage, maybe two if you want to bend the numbers. The key is though they just tuned or will soon be 19, Dwayne will get drafted at 20 but will turn 21 before his 1st official training camp.. That's my main point, he's 2 years/seasons/ school years behind his normal class.. I'm not bending the numbers at all.. I agree with SF that its not as big a factor on the college level but to me it is something to consider... Look at how dominant Shabazz Muhammad was in HS and then think back on how much it dropped off in college.. Was he still a good player? Yes, but not nearly the player he was projected to be and when it came out that his Pops lied about his age it made more sense why he was so good in HS
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 12:33:48 GMT -5
Dwayne Bacon, 2015 SG/SF, Oak Hill Academy (VA): It continues to be an absolutely scorching spring for the 6-foot-6, muscular wing. On Wednesday night, he did whatever he wanted to do, toying with the defense all game long. He scored on all three levels and looked very much like the best player in the gym. He finished the night with 16 points on 5/8 shooting from the floor. future150.com/hs/basketball-news/2014-reebok-breakout-classic-ado-shines-wednesday-12920Jamie Shaw @jamieshaw5 16h #Breakout14 Box Score Dwayne Bacon 16P Deriante Jenkins 11P PJ Dozier 9P 3A Also GP Ogide, K Johnson, MJ Walker, K Sy pic.twitter.com/UDLwodtjOC Think DSR was 20 his Freshman year also fwiw
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 10, 2014 13:51:20 GMT -5
I understand but some/most of those guys were drafted at 19. If Bacon were to be a one and done he'd be drafted at 20. Sucks that he has an August birthday, but it's not as big a gap as it could be and was born in the spring. At the most it's a one year advantage, maybe two if you want to bend the numbers. The key is though they just tuned or will soon be 19, Dwayne will get drafted at 20 but will turn 21 before his 1st official training camp.. That's my main point, he's 2 years/seasons/ school years behind his normal class.. I'm not bending the numbers at all.. I agree with SF that its not as big a factor on the college level but to me it is something to consider... Look at how dominant Shabazz Muhammad was in HS and then think back on how much it dropped off in college.. Was he still a good player? Yes, but not nearly the player he was projected to be and when it came out that his Pops lied about his age it made more sense why he was so good in HS Are you familiar with the line than is drawn for late summer birthdays among high school athletes in general and how those numbers shake out? I understand where you're coming from but it's not a discussion of "just turned 19" or what not. For half a year one player will be 19 and the other 20. Not as big a gap as the original "2-3 year difference".
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