TC
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Post by TC on Sept 24, 2013 10:40:12 GMT -5
So Francis didn't act simply because Reynolds was "continuing to celebrate the Eucharist," but because of the original reason his faculties were withdrawn, namely his defense of gay marriage. Just thought we should be clear. He apparently gave communion to a dog. Are we sure we're willing to bet that gay marriage was a key reason here?
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pertinax
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Post by pertinax on Sept 24, 2013 12:35:32 GMT -5
It was preaching gay marriage, and not feeding a dog, that was given as te reason for relieving him of his faculties.
Today's Headline In Evidence That "Traditionalism" Is "So Yesterday" for the Church:
"No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head"
Washington Times
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 24, 2013 13:02:18 GMT -5
Some things never change... Archdiocese knew of priest's sexual misbehavior, yet kept him in ministry"The message from the archdiocese was clear – this wouldn't be like the many horrific clergy sex abuse cases that rocked the Roman Catholic Church a decade ago. Times had changed. The safety of children mattered more than the career of a predator priest. The reality was far different. This wasn't the first time Wehmeyer had been in trouble. Top archdiocese leaders knew of Wehmeyer's sexual compulsions for nearly a decade but kept him in ministry and failed to warn parishioners, according to canon lawyer Jennifer Haselberger, who resigned in April, and dozens of other interviews and documents."
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Post by CWS on Sept 24, 2013 14:12:30 GMT -5
Cardinal Burke, the one behind the Pelosi opinion, has voiced this opinion before and he's been ignored before. It'll be interesting what authority his new position gives him (I don't think he can intervene in matters that are not brought to his court, but I'm not sure). www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/06/archbishop-wuerl-why-i-won-t-deny-pelosi-communion/Cardinal Burke is the favorite of self-identified traditionalist Catholics. While at St. Louis, he stated that no Catholic could vote for a pro-choice politician (which is not true: a Catholic cannot vote for a pro-choice politician BECAUSE he or she is pro-choice; but if there are other good reasons, they can), and Cardinal Ratzinger intervened to correct him. Cardinal Burke is loved by traditionalist Catholics because he has tried to bring back the pageantry of the pre-Vatican II liturgy. The rumor was that he was told by Vatican officials to tone it down a bit, for reasons that can be seen here: www.google.com/search?q=cardinal+burke&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=t-NBUuv5ItKu4AP0xoFoOr just google Cardinal Burke, and click on images.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 24, 2013 14:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Sept 24, 2013 17:07:40 GMT -5
Cardinal Burke, the one behind the Pelosi opinion, has voiced this opinion before and he's been ignored before. It'll be interesting what authority his new position gives him (I don't think he can intervene in matters that are not brought to his court, but I'm not sure). www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/06/archbishop-wuerl-why-i-won-t-deny-pelosi-communion/Cardinal Burke is the favorite of self-identified traditionalist Catholics. While at St. Louis, he stated that no Catholic could vote for a pro-choice politician (which is not true: a Catholic cannot vote for a pro-choice politician BECAUSE he or she is pro-choice; but if there are other good reasons, they can), and Cardinal Ratzinger intervened to correct him. Cardinal Burke is loved by traditionalist Catholics because he has tried to bring back the pageantry of the pre-Vatican II liturgy. The rumor was that he was told by Vatican officials to tone it down a bit, for reasons that can be seen here: www.google.com/search?q=cardinal+burke&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=t-NBUuv5ItKu4AP0xoFoOr just google Cardinal Burke, and click on images. May I guess which prelature he belongs to?
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 24, 2013 18:25:30 GMT -5
Cardinal Burke, the one behind the Pelosi opinion, has voiced this opinion before and he's been ignored before. It'll be interesting what authority his new position gives him (I don't think he can intervene in matters that are not brought to his court, but I'm not sure). www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/06/archbishop-wuerl-why-i-won-t-deny-pelosi-communion/Cardinal Burke is the favorite of self-identified traditionalist Catholics. While at St. Louis, he stated that no Catholic could vote for a pro-choice politician (which is not true: a Catholic cannot vote for a pro-choice politician BECAUSE he or she is pro-choice; but if there are other good reasons, they can), and Cardinal Ratzinger intervened to correct him. Cardinal Burke is loved by traditionalist Catholics because he has tried to bring back the pageantry of the pre-Vatican II liturgy. The rumor was that he was told by Vatican officials to tone it down a bit, for reasons that can be seen here: www.google.com/search?q=cardinal+burke&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=t-NBUuv5ItKu4AP0xoFoOr just google Cardinal Burke, and click on images. Seems like, to you, traditionalist Catholics is an unsavory phrase. I seems to recall that pre-Vatican II days were ones where most Catholics remained Catholic and espoused Catholic doctrine. They were the days of plenteous vocations to the priesthood and religious life, of few Catholic divorces, of laity who attended Sunday Mass no matter what, of Catholic schools taught by nuns, brothers and priests and, in general, a thriving Catholic Church. If that's the traditionalist Catholics you refer to, let me see more of it.
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Post by pertinax on Sept 24, 2013 19:05:34 GMT -5
"The rumor was that he was told by Vatican officials to tone it down a bit."
Demonstrating again Shakespeare's observation that "rumor hath many false tongues."
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Post by prhoya on Sept 24, 2013 20:44:24 GMT -5
EasyEd, did you know that CWS is a Jesuit priest?
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Post by pertinax on Sept 25, 2013 6:47:00 GMT -5
Deleted. Personal attacks are NOT allowed on this board.
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Post by ksf42001 on Sept 25, 2013 7:14:41 GMT -5
This thread has gone off-topic and will be reopened as a new thread.--Admin
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