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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 3, 2013 17:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 3, 2013 17:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 3, 2013 17:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 3, 2013 17:25:42 GMT -5
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 3, 2013 17:27:34 GMT -5
Sweet post padding!
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 6, 2013 16:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by quickplay on Jun 6, 2013 20:59:47 GMT -5
This is a scandal I can get behind. I would imagine that this bothers many people regardless of where they land on the political spectrum. Bother being a friendlier word than I should use.
When something like this is being done, 'free country' is in name only.
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Post by Boz on Jun 7, 2013 8:31:38 GMT -5
I don't know what you guys are talking about. There is nothing wrong with this program whatsoever. They are only trying to protect us. I say, pull all the data you want. I support our government 150% on this issue. Ummm, yup.... NSA and FBI Mining Internet Data
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 9, 2013 16:31:37 GMT -5
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Post by TC on Jun 9, 2013 22:15:12 GMT -5
Are those really opposing views? The first makes the argument that the media in a lot of cases is misrepresenting the story and that the line of personal privacy is drawn in personal data content (audio of phone calls, text of emails, etc) or from data collected from someone's personal devices - rather than in metadata collected from a call tower or a router, switch, or name server.
The second makes the argument that this practice should not be secret and that the lack of transparency to Congress and the judiciary hinders oversight, which Article A establishes as necessary.
I could see the two authors agreeing with each others' points.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 10, 2013 10:15:10 GMT -5
^^^ Good points.
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 10, 2013 16:27:41 GMT -5
Are those really opposing views? The first makes the argument that the media in a lot of cases is misrepresenting the story and that the line of personal privacy is drawn in personal data content (audio of phone calls, text of emails, etc) or from data collected from someone's personal devices - rather than in metadata collected from a call tower or a router, switch, or name server. The second makes the argument that this practice should not be secret and that the lack of transparency to Congress and the judiciary hinders oversight, which Article A establishes as necessary. I could see the two authors agreeing with each others' points. There's nothing illegal (from what I've seen so far) about the NSA stuff and it doesn't strike as a scandal as much as it is the press apparently finding its libertarian streak over things we already knew were authorized under the patriot act.
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 10, 2013 16:36:03 GMT -5
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jun 10, 2013 16:43:29 GMT -5
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Post by TC on Jun 12, 2013 8:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Jun 12, 2013 9:26:19 GMT -5
Are Is ONE Republican s for or against prosecuting journalists for leaks? Fixed multiple errors for you. I don't know that any Republican s, plural, have joined King in this. Nor do I recall King making statements about James Rosen being AN OUTRAGE!!! Though I may have missed that. In any case, he seems to be pretty much on his own [EDIT: And very, VERY wrong] on this one. Now can anyone still answer the question of whether Attorney General Eric Holder is for or against prosecuting journalists? His words say no, no, no. But his subpoenas say yes, yes, yes.
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Post by EasyEd on Oct 29, 2013 9:09:47 GMT -5
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