IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Aug 30, 2015 19:21:47 GMT -5
But this is equal parts responsibility. Both the school and the program ( coaches and players ) knew what was going on.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 30, 2015 21:03:09 GMT -5
But this is equal parts responsibility. Both the school and the program ( coaches and players ) knew what was going on. Exactly - if JTIII or his staff were steering players into that sociology program so they did not have to do real schoolwork I would fully expect the NCAA to punish the program. |
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Post by tashoya on Aug 30, 2015 22:12:12 GMT -5
Considering the time that has passed, I think it's safe to assume that UNC won't get much in the way of any punishment and, if they do, it won't affect the basketball teams. Though it's difficult to ignore the irony of a kid that values academics having UNC on his list considering their large-scale BS classes thing. That said, UNC has to be a huge draw for a guy growing up in either of the Carolinas that loves basketball. I'm hoping he makes the unconventional choice and becomes a Hoya. Our offense is only slow when we have slow guys. Let's run it fast with a guy like Seventh. Not to mention, baby blue is for babies. Hoya blue is for men. (Yes, grasping at every straw) Not so sure that the passage of time is any factor tas - just ask Syracuse! I certainly hope you're right in this case. |
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Post by tashoya on Aug 30, 2015 22:20:53 GMT -5
The NCAA will not issue any sanctions against North Carolina before March Madness. No hearings are scheduled yet, in part because of recent self-reporting by UNC of apparent violations by the women's basketball team. Based upon how long it took for final sanctions to be issued against our friends in orange to the north, I'd be shocked if we saw any announced sanctions until shortly after graduation ceremonies in Chapel Hill. After that, though, don't be surprised if the NCAA comes down hard on UNC, because of the public perception that is involved. The problem is that the teams weren't breaking specific NCAA competitive rules, but the school as a whole was not on the up-and-up over the African American Studies program. The more appropriate sanctions should come from its accreditation body, not the NCAA. Put another way, if this was the NCAA telling Georgetown that its sociology program was no good, do we blame John Thompson III for it? No. If JT3 knew that there really wasn't a sociology program at all and, as such, was urging his players to be a part of that "program" to keep them academically eligible all the while not pointing out to the administration that there wasn't really a sociology program then, yes, you'd absolutely blame JT3 for being complicit in and enabling academic fraud. |
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Post by dense on Aug 31, 2015 0:14:24 GMT -5
Does anyone know if he has scheduled a visit to Florida? I figure there might not be official visits to SC or UNC because he has been there a bunch. But is he scheduling or scheduled those?
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Post by carlosgibson on Aug 31, 2015 1:19:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know if he has scheduled a visit to Florida? I figure there might not be official visits to SC or UNC because he has been there a bunch. But is he scheduling or scheduled those?
It hasn't come out yet. UF probably wants him in for the Tennessee football game, it's 2 weeks after our visit
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 31, 2015 7:59:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know if he has scheduled a visit to Florida? I figure there might not be official visits to SC or UNC because he has been there a bunch. But is he scheduling or scheduled those?
It hasn't come out yet. UF probably wants him in for the Tennessee football game, it's 2 weeks after our visit
Why would you want to show a recruit that football is king at that university. Doesn't seem smart from a basketball standpoint. |
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Post by lucky on Aug 31, 2015 8:16:19 GMT -5
You see this plenty from the big schools, the football game atmosphere is electric and exciting and gets the recruit pumped up. Whether the tactic works is hard to measure.
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Post by daymondmyles on Aug 31, 2015 9:23:48 GMT -5
Yes, it works a lot especially for kids that either played football or just grew up rooting for football. It's about the atmosphere (which is pretty fun for a big time college football program) more than it is about the focus of the fanbase.
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 31, 2015 10:10:58 GMT -5
It hasn't come out yet. UF probably wants him in for the Tennessee football game, it's 2 weeks after our visit
Why would you want to show a recruit that football is king at that university. Doesn't seem smart from a basketball standpoint. I've been asking that for years. I mean what that has to do with the actual basketball program? Even if you say it displays school spirit that doesn't mean it will translate to the bball program. But I guess if you are all about showing a kid a good time such a ploy works. |
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Post by carlosgibson on Aug 31, 2015 10:26:08 GMT -5
He's more than likely hanging out with the basketball team at the football game and going to parties the weekend he goes. I'm sure Woods knows his local school South Carolina is also football crazy. |
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 31, 2015 10:44:25 GMT -5
He's more than likely hanging out with the basketball team at the football game and going to parties the weekend he goes. I'm sure Woods knows his local school South Carolina is also football crazy. That's fine and all but if the basketball team are considered second class athletes/program to the football program than showing that can backfire. Floridas been pretty good in both sports but with Donovan gone and no high profile replacement there are questions whether basketball takes a backseat to the football big men in campus. |
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Aug 31, 2015 11:44:44 GMT -5
He's more than likely hanging out with the basketball team at the football game and going to parties the weekend he goes. I'm sure Woods knows his local school South Carolina is also football crazy. That's fine and all but if the basketball team are considered second class athletes/program to the football program than showing that can backfire. Floridas been pretty good in both sports but with Donovan gone and no high profile replacement there are questions whether basketball takes a backseat to the football big men in campus. This is true. But quite honestly, even if basketball takes a backseat to Florida's football program, I don't know if we want to go down the path of comparing the gameday environment at the Phonebooth to that of other programs, Florida certainly included. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 11:56:27 GMT -5
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Aug 31, 2015 16:23:11 GMT -5
This kid has got LeBron James type defense at the rim!
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Post by njhoya78 on Aug 31, 2015 20:26:10 GMT -5
The NCAA will not issue any sanctions against North Carolina before March Madness. No hearings are scheduled yet, in part because of recent self-reporting by UNC of apparent violations by the women's basketball team. Based upon how long it took for final sanctions to be issued against our friends in orange to the north, I'd be shocked if we saw any announced sanctions until shortly after graduation ceremonies in Chapel Hill. After that, though, don't be surprised if the NCAA comes down hard on UNC, because of the public perception that is involved. The problem is that the teams weren't breaking specific NCAA competitive rules, but the school as a whole was not on the up-and-up over the African American Studies program. The more appropriate sanctions should come from its accreditation body, not the NCAA. Put another way, if this was the NCAA telling Georgetown that its sociology program was no good, do we blame John Thompson III for it? No. Maybe we'd be blaming Bill Stein? |
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 1, 2015 7:00:55 GMT -5
The problem is that the teams weren't breaking specific NCAA competitive rules, but the school as a whole was not on the up-and-up over the African American Studies program. The more appropriate sanctions should come from its accreditation body, not the NCAA. Put another way, if this was the NCAA telling Georgetown that its sociology program was no good, do we blame John Thompson III for it? No. Maybe we'd be blaming Bill Stein? Mary Fenlon? |
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Sept 1, 2015 12:03:03 GMT -5
I would love to have been a fly on the wall when any player tried to explain to Mary how it was a "class" but they really didn't take attendance, have any classes or any tests.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 11:15:13 GMT -5
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Sept 2, 2015 17:14:42 GMT -5
I don't know about the rest of you'll but I've watched the Utah game over and over again like a good little Hoya this off season. And from what I've seen in Mr. Seventh Woods he could have been the turning point in that game, between Brandon Taylor and Delon Wright they rattled off a combined 26pts, four of which were behind the arc all made by Taylor. |
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