mfk24
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Post by mfk24 on Apr 2, 2015 20:12:06 GMT -5
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Apr 2, 2015 20:41:12 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 2, 2015 20:44:11 GMT -5
Has 11 and 10 rebounds with 1:11 remaining in the first half. I absolutely love this kid Rough second half on the boards.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Apr 2, 2015 20:51:52 GMT -5
Has 11 and 10 rebounds with 1:11 remaining in the first half. I absolutely love this kid Rough second half on the boards. Happens to a lot of guys when they commit to Georgetown.
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Post by vv83 on Apr 2, 2015 20:53:06 GMT -5
Jessie was arguably the second best player on the court tonight (after Bacon - that guy is a lottery pick waiting to happen, and he did not even play particularly well today), in a game with a lot of talent on the floor. He definitely needs to get stronger, but he looked very good. I was especially impressed with how well he ran the court and cut to the basket - he showed pretty good speed and a bit of explosiveness.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Apr 2, 2015 21:56:27 GMT -5
Has 11 and 10 rebounds with 1:11 remaining in the first half. I absolutely love this kid Rough second half on the boards. lol. I fell asleep....had a long day at work
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Apr 2, 2015 23:41:33 GMT -5
Just watched the replay and we all might as well pencil him into the starting lineup for next season.
Could be a monster by his junior year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 3:42:28 GMT -5
Jessie Govan: The Georgetown signee did to Oak Hill what he had been doing to the PSAL all season – dominate. Govan finished the night with 20 points and 9 rebounds despite being matched up against Oak Hill’s front line with three players above 6’9. Govan displayed a nice turnaround jumper from the post as well as the mobility to get catch a lob in transition. www.hardwoodinsiders.com/2015/04/high-school-nationals-day-1-standouts/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 6:31:32 GMT -5
I saw the game and believe that Govan will be better than advertised. He needs to be coached up. On defense, he seemed to be lost at times. With coaching (which he will get here), he is going to be a monster.
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HoyaChris
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Post by HoyaChris on Apr 3, 2015 8:57:00 GMT -5
The difference between the first half and the second half on the boards was foul trouble. For Wings this year the basic equation was no Govan on the floor equals loss. Once Jesse picked up his third foul he was markedly less aggressive in all facets of the game.
He really does need to hit the weight room, though.
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Post by NCHoya on Apr 3, 2015 9:03:59 GMT -5
Hopefully Jessie is the starter from the beginning next season. The game will slow down by December, and his defense will take huge leaps if he just gets the minutes to correct his mistakes. We need Govan to be a player next season, I am very encouraged about what I am reading.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Apr 3, 2015 9:05:14 GMT -5
First time I saw him for an extended period of play. I thought his best quality is his offensive touch. He missed a fair number of his mid-range shots, but nearly all of them were in-and-out or just back-rimmed, and most were tightly contested. To me, that's a good sign, and it really ought to translate well.
He's not quick going up with the ball, and I suspect that will be an adjustment for him as college defenses will be quicker to recover to him. A lot of his points last night were uncontested two-footers.
Seemed to have pretty good hands; no Mikael-like issues there. Couldn't really tell his overall passing ability.
I thought he rebounded reasonably well, particularly given the size of his teammates. He looked to box out and it didn't seem like people got rebounds over or through him. Sure, he needs to get stronger, but what 18 year-old doesn't? He wasn't running after loose balls, or trying to get rebounds that weren't in his specific area. I suppose that can be looked at as both good and bad. He's not a leaper and, as noted, isn't quick to get off the ground. I think he seemed overall average for his size in this department.
He played a lot of minutes and got up and down the court well in an up-and-down the court game. So, we're not going to have any issues with that.
Not surprisingly, he contested every shot very hard, and I don't think he has the hops or springiness to do that at our level, so that's something I hope we can change. They played a lot of zone, too, so it was hard to tell his one-on-one defensive skills.
Overall, I was certainly pleased. His upside is quite large, and I think his reasonable downside is as a very meaningful contributor right out of the gate. Teams absolutely will have to defend him out to fifteen feet.
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 3, 2015 9:08:11 GMT -5
First time I saw him for an extended period of play. I thought his best quality is his offensive touch. He missed a fair number of his mid-range shots, but nearly all of them were in-and-out or just back-rimmed, and most were tightly contested. To me, that's a good sign, and it really ought to translate well. Seemed to have pretty good hands; no Mikael-like issues there. Couldn't really tell his overall passing ability. I thought he rebounded reasonably well, particularly given the size of his teammates. He looked to box out and it didn't seem like people got rebounds over or through him. Sure, he needs to get stronger, but what 18 year-old doesn't? He wasn't running after loose balls, or trying to get rebounds that weren't in his specific area. I suppose that can be looked at as both good and bad. He played a lot of minutes and got up and down the court well in an up-and-down the court game. So, we're not going to have any issues with that. Not surprisingly, he contested every shot very hard, and I don't think he has the hops or springiness to do that at our level, so that's something I hope we can change. They played a lot of zone, too, so it was hard to tell his one-on-one defensive skills. Overall, I was certainly pleased. His upside is quite large, and I think his reasonable downside is as a very meaningful contributor right out of the gate. How'd he look in the zone? We have the length to have a truly nasty zone (6'2/6'5/6'9/6'9/6'10) next year.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Apr 3, 2015 9:11:15 GMT -5
First time I saw him for an extended period of play. I thought his best quality is his offensive touch. He missed a fair number of his mid-range shots, but nearly all of them were in-and-out or just back-rimmed, and most were tightly contested. To me, that's a good sign, and it really ought to translate well. Seemed to have pretty good hands; no Mikael-like issues there. Couldn't really tell his overall passing ability. I thought he rebounded reasonably well, particularly given the size of his teammates. He looked to box out and it didn't seem like people got rebounds over or through him. Sure, he needs to get stronger, but what 18 year-old doesn't? He wasn't running after loose balls, or trying to get rebounds that weren't in his specific area. I suppose that can be looked at as both good and bad. He played a lot of minutes and got up and down the court well in an up-and-down the court game. So, we're not going to have any issues with that. Not surprisingly, he contested every shot very hard, and I don't think he has the hops or springiness to do that at our level, so that's something I hope we can change. They played a lot of zone, too, so it was hard to tell his one-on-one defensive skills. Overall, I was certainly pleased. His upside is quite large, and I think his reasonable downside is as a very meaningful contributor right out of the gate. How'd he look in the zone? We have the length to have a truly nasty zone (6'2/6'5/6'9/6'9/6'10) next year. They were so outmatched at so many positions (really, every position but his) that it was really hard to fully tell. I don't think he's a rim protector, though, in the classic mold of Hibbert playing the zone (or the guys Cuse has had in that role). He didn't have the feel of a plus defender (I didn't see him actually block a significant number of shots -- be they from guards or bigs -- and he was contesting), but again, it's the only time I've seen him play extended minutes and his team was so outmatched.
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Post by dense on Apr 3, 2015 9:23:24 GMT -5
I think besides missing the mid range shots he normally makes, you saw the package. It all translates to this level. Defense is where he needs alot of work but every college freshman does. He is way behind in terms of that. His leaping I don't think is as big of an issue as people are making it out to be. I think right now he is Henry sims senior year offensively. Defensively he is Henry sims freshman year. In terms of his passing he actually excels at that. He will be able to make the reads of the back cuts pretty quickly.
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Post by jld on Apr 3, 2015 9:38:58 GMT -5
The talent on Oak Hill was ridiculous -- the Kentucky of "high school" basketball. They has 3 big men vs. only Jesse for Wings.
I believe that Jesse will be an effective offensive player and a very good pick and roll big and he is mobile and quicker that he first appears. The top teams all have this in their offensive arsenal and I suspect that JT3 will use him in this role. With time he can be an effective mid-range shooter as well, which will open up the entire offense.
I also think that he can be an effective rebounder as he has a good sense for rebounds in his direct territory. Hard to tell how effective he can be on defense because he had zero size on his team to help inside and played against 3 D-1 bigs. He will probably be average at best defensively as a freshman as he makes the transition to college.
The dilemma is that if a player is ready to contribute well as a freshman he will be gone in a year or two.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 3, 2015 10:18:06 GMT -5
From what I saw yesterday we have two years with BigJ. The kid can flat out score the ball and as stated above that's against D-1 bigs. I actually love to see a Tre, LJ, Ike/PW, Jessie and Brad lineup at some point to see how the high/low would look. That would be a huge lineup.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 3, 2015 11:15:38 GMT -5
Has 11 and 10 rebounds with 1:11 remaining in the first half. I absolutely love this kid Rough second half on the boards. I like this concept - if you fumble or give up a rebound that you should have grabbed, they subtract one from your stats.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 3, 2015 11:18:59 GMT -5
From what I saw yesterday we have two years with BigJ. The kid can flat out score the ball and as stated above that's against D-1 bigs. I actually love to see a Tre, LJ, Ike/PW, Jessie and Brad lineup at some point to see how the high/low would look. That would be a huge lineup. I hope to never see Hayes and Govan at the same time absent dire foul trouble for Paul, Ike and Marcus.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 11:20:42 GMT -5
I think besides missing the mid range shots he normally makes, you saw the package. It all translates to this level. Defense is where he needs alot of work but every college freshman does. He is way behind in terms of that. His leaping I don't think is as big of an issue as people are making it out to be. I think right now he is Henry sims senior year offensively. Defensively he is Henry sims freshman year. In terms of his passing he actually excels at that. He will be able to make the reads of the back cuts pretty quickly. I agree with you about his leaping ability. He is an excellent leaper. He often is just not in correct position. I see him as a shot blocker by the time he is an upper classman, but not before. Again, in my humble opinion, what this kid needs in addition to strength, is coaching and he is going to get that. I honestly feel that with patience he is going to be the next great Hoya big.
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