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Post by hoyazeke on Jun 29, 2012 21:38:28 GMT -5
Both arguments are correct..... MKG and Otto played similiar roles on there teams. There offensive strengths are different but both played the 3 and 4 positions. MKG would slide over to the 4 when AD was in foul trouble or need a breather. Otto primarily played the 4 and would occasionally slide over to the 3(not very often). MKG is a slasher and Otto did most of his work at the elbows. Both are excellent rebounders and good defenders.......
I think UNLV was closer to the perfect team........Anthony(point), Hunt(shooter), Augmon(slasher), Johnson(do it all..er), and Scurry(enforcer)..............
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Post by harlemhoya on Jun 29, 2012 23:18:15 GMT -5
Both arguments are correct..... MKG and Otto played similiar roles on there teams. There offensive strengths are different but both played the 3 and 4 positions. MKG would slide over to the 4 when AD was in foul trouble or need a breather. Otto primarily played the 4 and would occasionally slide over to the 3(not very often). MKG is a slasher and Otto did most of his work at the elbows. Both are excellent rebounders and good defenders....... I think UNLV was closer to the perfect team........Anthony(point), Hunt(shooter), Augmon(slasher), Johnson(do it all..er), and Scurry(enforcer).............. David Butler was the starting center on UNLV championship team. Moses Scurry came off the bench. |
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Post by emkmd on Jun 30, 2012 7:32:48 GMT -5
I think it was George Ackles (sp?) who played center on the UNLV team.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jun 30, 2012 8:00:37 GMT -5
Except that when Nate would get the hook at the 17 minute mark of the first half, Otto came in to play for him, and guarded opposing 4s. yeah of course he played at the 4 nobody is denying that. Unless you have a minute break down indicating that Otto played nearly as many minutes at the 4 down the stretch, which you don't, then your point is moot. What happened when Terrance Jones left the floor for foul trouble or because of the rotation? We see Teague at the top. Lamb next to him. Miller slide into the 3, then MKG slide to the 4....similar situations. Nobody is saying they're identical situations, but as far as talent level and role go you'd be hard pressed to find many other comparisons that fit so well. |
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Post by harlemhoya on Jun 30, 2012 8:48:01 GMT -5
I think it was George Ackles (sp?) who played center on the UNLV team. Ackles missed the championship season with a broken wrist. David Butler was the starting center on the 90 team . |
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Post by TBird41 on Jun 30, 2012 9:07:01 GMT -5
Except that when Nate would get the hook at the 17 minute mark of the first half, Otto came in to play for him, and guarded opposing 4s. yeah of course he played at the 4 nobody is denying that. Unless you have a minute break down indicating that Otto played nearly as many minutes at the 4 down the stretch, which you don't, then your point is moot. What happened when Terrance Jones left the floor for foul trouble or because of the rotation? We see Teague at the top. Lamb next to him. Miller slide into the 3, then MKG slide to the 4....similar situations. Nobody is saying they're identical situations, but as far as talent level and role go you'd be hard pressed to find many other comparisons that fit so well. Well, that's just not how the UK lineup worked (Jones & Davis both averaged 30+ minutes, we're rarely in foul trouble and you forgot about Eloy Vargas and Kyle Wiltjer taking a lot of those extra minutes at the 4/5, especially on defense). Clearly you didnt actually watch many UK games. Which is understandable, what with having another team to concentrate on and, I'm going to assume, no significant other from Kentucky to watch them with. More importantly to the topic of this thread, Otto spent most of his time at the 4 according to Hoya Prospectus, spending only about 5 of his 30 minutes at the 3. www.hoyaprospectus.com/2012/03/lineup-stats-for-all-conf-games.html |
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Jun 30, 2012 17:03:37 GMT -5
yeah of course he played at the 4 nobody is denying that. Unless you have a minute break down indicating that Otto played nearly as many minutes at the 4 down the stretch, which you don't, then your point is moot. What happened when Terrance Jones left the floor for foul trouble or because of the rotation? We see Teague at the top. Lamb next to him. Miller slide into the 3, then MKG slide to the 4....similar situations. Nobody is saying they're identical situations, but as far as talent level and role go you'd be hard pressed to find many other comparisons that fit so well. Well, that's just not how the UK lineup worked (Jones & Davis both averaged 30+ minutes, we're rarely in foul trouble and you forgot about Eloy Vargas and Kyle Wiltjer taking a lot of those extra minutes at the 4/5, especially on defense). Clearly you didnt actually watch many UK games. Which is understandable, what with having another team to concentrate on and, I'm going to assume, no significant other from Kentucky to watch them with. More importantly to the topic of this thread, Otto spent most of his time at the 4 according to Hoya Prospectus, spending only about 5 of his 30 minutes at the 3. www.hoyaprospectus.com/2012/03/lineup-stats-for-all-conf-games.htmlTBird, I didnt watch many UK games(maybe 7-10) but in the ones that I watched Witjer and Vargas got little burn. Witjer played the 3 on the offensive end. I dont think I remember Kyle even making/taking a shot inside the 3 pt line. Otto and MKG's value to there respective teams is similiar. MKG probably played the 4 a similiar amount of time to what Otto played the 3....... |
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Post by Yaboynyp on Jul 2, 2012 1:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Jul 6, 2012 8:51:33 GMT -5
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Post by deacon on Jul 6, 2012 9:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by crashdavis on Jul 6, 2012 9:54:50 GMT -5
He's on his way out there.....should be a good test/learning experience for him. |
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Post by glidehoyas on Jul 6, 2012 11:26:02 GMT -5
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Post by seaweed on Jul 6, 2012 11:33:02 GMT -5
i like this comment from kenpom:
"Otto Porter might be an All-American, but DSR could potentially outplay everyone else on the Georgetown roster."
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Post by rosslynhoya on Jul 6, 2012 12:32:10 GMT -5
i like this comment from kenpom: "Otto Porter might be an All-American, but DSR could potentially outplay everyone else on the Georgetown roster." With luck it'll occur the same year. |
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Post by ottomatic on Jul 7, 2012 10:45:47 GMT -5
Lebron told Otto, "See you next year."
Make of that what you will
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Post by kchoya on Jul 7, 2012 11:04:38 GMT -5
Lebron told Otto, "See you next year." Make of that what you will He'll be back at the camp next year. |
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Post by kchoya on Jul 7, 2012 11:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 7, 2012 11:25:01 GMT -5
True, if you exclude Withey. |
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 7, 2012 11:27:12 GMT -5
True, if you exclude Withey. Also, Tony Mitchell |
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Post by kchoya on Jul 7, 2012 11:55:50 GMT -5
True, if you exclude Withey. Also, Tony Mitchell Whoops, missed the second page. |
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