757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on May 7, 2012 13:11:49 GMT -5
ESPN article updated to indicate that "Georgetown and Pittsburgh" led the charge to reject ESPN deal. Weird that Pitt has some kind of say in an ESPN/Big East deal since they are going to the ACC. Their AD shot down the deal before they left for the ACC. |
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Post by concord on May 7, 2012 13:22:29 GMT -5
espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/32570/where-did-john-marinatto-go-wrong"No other commissioner on the FBS level has to deal with basketball-only members, still believing their interests should come first. No other commissioner on the FBS level has had to deal with football members perplexed as to why the folks on the other side do not quite understand the reality of the situation." Article also re-asserts that Georgetown led the charge to shoot down ESPN's extension offer, states that football BE members refused to let Nova move up in football, and relates an anecdote in which football schools requested a 75/25 revenue split for football/basketball and one basketball-only AD says it should be the other way around since the BE was founded on basketball.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 7, 2012 14:24:37 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on May 7, 2012 14:30:46 GMT -5
ESPN (Egotistical Syracuse Propaganda Network)
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on May 7, 2012 15:09:21 GMT -5
Professor wins the internets.
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concord
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Post by concord on May 7, 2012 15:27:36 GMT -5
Every single ESPN article about Marinatto's ouster points to Georgetown as the leader of the anti-ESPN-extension movement, a claim that never surfaced before today. What gives?
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Post by kghoya on May 7, 2012 15:30:07 GMT -5
I thought it was out there that Georgetown was one of the schools that turned down the TV deal.
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Post by concord on May 7, 2012 15:35:10 GMT -5
One of the schools, sure. But not THE ringleader, as four different ESPN articles would have it.
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Post by kghoya on May 7, 2012 15:45:31 GMT -5
One of the schools, sure. But not THE ringleader, as four different ESPN articles would have it. You never know where Sarah Phillips is getting her info from these days. |
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Post by DanMcQ on May 7, 2012 16:06:07 GMT -5
One of the schools, sure. But not THE ringleader, as four different ESPN articles would have it. You never know where Sarah Phillips is getting her info from these days. Bravo. |
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Post by Guest on May 7, 2012 16:11:53 GMT -5
What kind of visionary thinking animated our vote against the tv deal? It would not have kept the conference together, but still. We're on the fast track to several games only carried on MASN (and called by a team of "Ron" Thompson and Mark Tillman). We can even rename the network to the HTTMN - Hot Tub Time Machine Network.
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Post by kchoya on May 7, 2012 16:17:50 GMT -5
Hoya Paranoia in full effect.
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Post by tigerhoya3 on May 7, 2012 16:26:17 GMT -5
www.cbssports.com/columns/story/18985030"After Marinatto replaced Mike Tranghese, he was doomed. It was only a matter of time. He was set up to fail by the league's presidents because they handcuffed his ability to make any relevant changes. "He was the human pin cushion," a league source said. "Nobody in the world could have made this work. Look at the things he was dealt." With conference realignment sweeping the country, Marinatto still was able to convince TCU in November of 2010 to join the Big East, to help bolster an inconsistent football league. People mocked a Texas team joining the Big East, but it gave the league a solid football addition. That would have given the Big East nine football members in 2012. There was even speculation the Big East might be able to attract an ACC school to join the Big East, which was in the midst of negotiating a huge upcoming media rights deal. "At that point when the Big East was intact, the only school the Big East could have legitimately added that made sense was UCF," an industry source said. "Maryland and Boston College? They wouldn't even return the Big East's calls. But the Big East couldn't add UCF because [South Florida president] Judy Genshaft kept shooting down UCF." Genshaft's continuing insistence to block UCF from the league was a huge contributing factor which ultimately led to the league's current instability, a league source said. That's because in April of 2011, with TCU on board, Marinatto and the league negotiated a nine-year deal worth $1.4 billion for its new media rights deal. Marinatto recommended to his presidents that they accept the offer and they promptly voted against it. "I think that was the stupidest decision ever made [to turn it down] in college athletics," a league source said. "To have the equity of ESPN as your brand and the stability that would have gone with it." Five months after the league's presidents turned down $1.4 billion on the night of Sept. 16, 2011, I reported that Syracuse and Pittsburgh were leaving the Big East for the ACC. I tried to contact Marinatto for a quote. I never reached Marinatto that night, but a few weeks later I was told Marinatto first learned Syracuse and Pittsburgh were leaving for the ACC from me. The obvious reaction is how much in the dark he must have been, but the fact was no one at any Big East school or Big East employee knew Syracuse and Pittsburgh were leaving until CBSSports.com reported it. "
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Post by BSM on May 7, 2012 16:45:45 GMT -5
Every single ESPN article about Marinatto's ouster points to Georgetown as the leader of the anti-ESPN-extension movement, a claim that never surfaced before today. What gives? Pete Thamel is moonlighting |
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Post by kghoya on May 7, 2012 16:49:30 GMT -5
This is bad news for the non-FB schools right? I mean I'm not sure what would be good news for that group but this can't qualify as positive stuff right?
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Post by deacon on May 7, 2012 17:36:01 GMT -5
I'd like to know the rationale behind voting down a $1.4 billion deal from ESPN.
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Post by MCIGuy on May 7, 2012 17:41:22 GMT -5
I always thought that the basketball schools were not allowed to touch any of the money that came from football success. Wasn't at one time the contracts for football and basketball separate? Regardless the basketball part of the conference was its most successful brand. Yes, the football schools had an automatic BCS bid but was Big East football ever that much of a draw? Did it draw viewers? And weren't MOST of the football teams average at best?
Outside of that I have always been on the side that said the BE should have taken that initial contract. I realize some were hoping for greener pastures with the next offer, but I would have been more cautious. Easy for me to say of course.
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Post by ottomatic on May 7, 2012 17:42:39 GMT -5
This is a huge mess.
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Post by vcjack on May 7, 2012 17:44:58 GMT -5
Regardless if it's true, I like having the perception be that we are the "leaders" of the basketball schools. I don't especially care if rejecting the ESPN deal was smart or dumb, I'd rather be the king lemming and have a final laugh at the followers on the way down.
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Post by bicentennial on May 7, 2012 18:18:12 GMT -5
First can we stop with the sky is falling, if it is our heads will be sore enough when it happens, lets not get headaches before. Second, it appears that the Big East Presidents decided that someone other than Marinatto should be involved in the decisions that have to be made both in the conference negotiations about the AQ issue and in the contract negotiations for the TV deal. I believe having someone with negotiations background in those meetings is a good idea and we have an acting commissioner with that background. What happens with the search for a permanent commissioner will also be interesting but for the short term we have an acting commisioner with the skillset and background to maximize our reach in negotiations. It is also interesting that the people listed as being under consideration for the permanent commissioner gig are all football background rather than basketball background. If someone can link the SNY article that had some good info.
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