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Post by Frank Black on May 5, 2012 18:31:12 GMT -5
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 7, 2012 0:32:14 GMT -5
Why would you think it wasn't true? Did you read the article you posted? If you did, then it's pretty clear that it is happening.
And I don't think anyone will shed a tear over some moron who won't donate to the school because of the speaker at the MPP graduation.
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Post by kchoya on May 7, 2012 5:39:03 GMT -5
Why would you think it wasn't true? Did you read the article you posted? If you did, then it's pretty clear that it is happening. And I don't think anyone will shed a tear over some moron who won't donate to the school because of the speaker at the MPP graduation. I think it's clear who the moron in this thread is.
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Post by strummer8526 on May 7, 2012 7:02:37 GMT -5
Why would you think it wasn't true? Did you read the article you posted? If you did, then it's pretty clear that it is happening. And I don't think anyone will shed a tear over some moron who won't donate to the school because of the speaker at the MPP graduation. I think it's clear who the moron in this thread is. The guy who will never donate again because he disagrees with one if the graduate school's graduation speakers?
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Post by RusskyHoya on May 7, 2012 9:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on May 7, 2012 10:08:25 GMT -5
Agree. They are all worse or worst.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 7, 2012 12:29:19 GMT -5
Why would you think it wasn't true? Did you read the article you posted? If you did, then it's pretty clear that it is happening. And I don't think anyone will shed a tear over some moron who won't donate to the school because of the speaker at the MPP graduation. I think it's clear who the moron in this thread is. Another trolling swing and a miss from you.
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Post by CWS on May 7, 2012 20:36:17 GMT -5
Here's some information sent to me about the Sebelius invitation:
Secretary Sebelius is speaking at Georgetown Public Policy Institute’s (GPPI) annual student and faculty awards event. Georgetown does not have one main commencement speaker and Sec. Sebelius will not be a commencement speaker. In fact, we have 10 official commencement ceremonies to award degrees for the different schools within the university, and 18 other awards ceremonies to honor student and faculty achievements.
The GPPI ceremony is one event during commencement weekend, but it is not a commencement ceremony.
As an academic community, Georgetown regularly hosts a variety of high profile speakers. An invitation to campus does not mean that the university agrees with the views of our guests, and their visits are not an endorsement by the university of their positions.
Sec. Sebelius was chosen by our GPPI students to bring a message of congratulations at their annual awards event as they begin their careers in public service and public policy. This is an opportunity to honor the accomplishments of our students and faculty.
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Q&A on Secretary Sebelius visit to Georgetown’s GPPI Awards Ceremony Why is Kathleen Sebelius speaking at Georgetown’s Commencement?
Secretary Sebelius is not speaking at Georgetown’s commencement. She is speaking to our public policy institute students at their annual student and faculty awards event.
Georgetown has 9 official commencement ceremonies in Washington to award degrees for the different schools within the university, and one at our campus in Doha, Qatar.
In addition, GU holds 18 awards ceremonies to honor student and faculty achievements.
In total, Georgetown has 28 ceremonies to honor the achievements of our graduates and our faculty.
The GPPI ceremony is one of these events during commencement weekend. Georgetown does not have one main commencement speaker or one main event.
Is Secretary Sebelius receiving an honorary degree?
Georgetown will award nine honorary degrees this year at the official commencement ceremonies.
Secretary Sebelius will not receive an honorary degree.
How are commencement-related event speakers chosen?
Each program and school is responsible for obtaining its own speaker. The process for doing this varies across schools.
The Georgetown Public Policy Institute is a program within the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences.
In the fall, graduating students in GPPI were surveyed about who they would like to invite to their annual student and faculty awards ceremony.
As a cabinet secretary Kathleen Sebelius was among the top public officials these students put forward. She accepted the invitation to address these public policy graduates.
Who else speaks and attends these ceremonies?
Secretary Sebelius is not the only speaker at this event. Deans, faculty members and students all speak at the awards ceremonies.
GPPI will present end-of-the-year awards, several students speak, the Dean will speak, and GPPI will give awards to a faculty member and an alum.
President DeGioia does not attend the individual student award ceremonies as his schedule is full attending the nine commencement ceremonies and the senior convocation.
What is tropaia?
Tropaia essentially means Trophy and the Tropaia Ceremony is the event at which individual schools distribute awards and honor students and faculty.
The word Tropaia is ancient Greek and referred to a monument constructed to celebrate a military victory.
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Post by kchoya on May 7, 2012 21:15:11 GMT -5
I think it's clear who the moron in this thread is. Another trolling swing and a miss from you. You called Frank Black a moron and yet I'm the troll? I'm surprised the mods have not deleted your personal attack.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 7, 2012 22:05:43 GMT -5
Another trolling swing and a miss from you. You called Frank Black a moron and yet I'm the troll? I'm surprised the mods have not deleted your personal attack. H8s gna h8 and trolls gonna troll, but even when you're trying so hard to establish your trolling persona, you still fail.
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Post by TC on May 8, 2012 10:09:39 GMT -5
Is Secretary Sebelius receiving an honorary degree?
Georgetown will award nine honorary degrees this year at the official commencement ceremonies. Secretary Sebelius will not receive an honorary degree. Wow, straight out of the Arizona State University playbook of let's have our cake and eat it too! We're listing you in our PR announcement, but we're also going out of our way to make sure everyone knows we're not going to give you a degree. Way to defend your choice of speakers, Georgetown.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on May 8, 2012 10:52:52 GMT -5
Actually, that's always been the case for GPPI's ceremony. It has never been a commencement ceremony, as GPPI graduates receive their degrees/diplomas at the Grad School ceremony later that day or the next).
Now if somebody wanted to pony up the $50 million to make GPPI into the School of Public Policy, Secretary Sebellius would not be the speaker for that commencement. I think anyone would take that tradeoff.
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Post by williambraskyiii on May 8, 2012 11:04:45 GMT -5
I don't understand the outrage. Is she an enemy of the State?
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Post by rosslynhoya on May 8, 2012 11:20:39 GMT -5
I don't understand the outrage. Is she an enemy of the State? She poses nowhere near the existential threat to our university or its Catholic identity as an appearance by the raging anti-Catholic heretic Rep. Paul Ryan.
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Post by vcjack on May 8, 2012 11:35:19 GMT -5
Has she been excommunicated? If not then the bishops should get that out of the way before condemning us for letting her be one of the minor graduation speakers.
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Post by RusskyHoya on May 8, 2012 14:03:08 GMT -5
Actually, that's always been the case for GPPI's ceremony. It has never been a commencement ceremony, as GPPI graduates receive their degrees/diplomas at the Grad School ceremony later that day or the next). Now if somebody wanted to pony up the $50 million to make GPPI into the School of Public Policy, Secretary Sebellius would not be the speaker for that commencement. I think anyone would take that tradeoff. Why wouldn't she be? If Pelosi and Giuliani could be chosen 10 years ago, why not her today?
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Post by CWS on May 8, 2012 15:15:51 GMT -5
Is Secretary Sebelius receiving an honorary degree?
Georgetown will award nine honorary degrees this year at the official commencement ceremonies. Secretary Sebelius will not receive an honorary degree. Wow, straight out of the Arizona State University playbook of let's have our cake and eat it too! We're listing you in our PR announcement, but we're also going out of our way to make sure everyone knows we're not going to give you a degree. Way to defend your choice of speakers, Georgetown. It's been an important distinction for some in the past, so I guess it had to be raised. In the controversy within Catholic circles over Notre Dame's invitation to Obama to speak at their commencement, many suggested that the problem was not so much that Notre Dame had invited Obama, but that they were presenting him with an honorary degree.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 8, 2012 16:14:48 GMT -5
What about all the people with ACTUAL Georgetown degrees who are *gasp* pro-choice?
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Post by jgalt on May 8, 2012 17:07:51 GMT -5
What about all the people with ACTUAL Georgetown degrees who are *gasp* pro-choice? People that went to Georgetown are pro-choice? Never! ;D
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Post by TC on May 8, 2012 17:13:50 GMT -5
It's been an important distinction for some in the past, so I guess it had to be raised. In the controversy within Catholic circles over Notre Dame's invitation to Obama to speak at their commencement, many suggested that the problem was not so much that Notre Dame had invited Obama, but that they were presenting him with an honorary degree. If you're going to invite someone, you should give them an honorary degree. I understand why Freeh and Sebellius aren't getting one in this circumstance, and I don't know whether there was more written that you didn't post, but the whole thing read like their defense was that she's going to be speaking in a janitor's closet in Leavey - rather than try to defend her as a speaker and also raise the idea that they have speakers other people disagree with.
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