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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 5:44:46 GMT -5
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Post by Talos on Sept 13, 2014 10:55:16 GMT -5
I know these rankings often don't mean much, but this list certainly is bizarre. They have Crawford ranked #32 (by far the highest I've seen him ranked), and Dozier 15 spots behind him at #47. They also have Derrickson at #39, which is much higher than all other rankings as well.
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Sept 13, 2014 11:21:02 GMT -5
I know these rankings often don't mean much, but this list certainly is bizarre. They have Crawford ranked #32 (by far the highest I've seen him ranked), and Dozier 15 spots behind him at #47. They also have Derrickson at #39, which is much higher than all other rankings as well. Not to mention Govan all the way down at #80.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 13, 2014 11:37:29 GMT -5
I know these rankings often don't mean much, but this list certainly is bizarre. They have Crawford ranked #32 (by far the highest I've seen him ranked), and Dozier 15 spots behind him at #47. They also have Derrickson at #39, which is much higher than all other rankings as well. This is not really directed at you, Talos, but I always find reactions to differing recruitings rankings kind of strange. When every ranking in the same, then fans usually say rankers are just sheep, they are afraid to be different and get called out, that they are ranking on reputation. When someone is fairly different -- although not really that different given the accuracy and level of differentiation past the Top 20 -- people think they are crazy. Just interesting to me. I have no idea who Brandon Clay is and why I should listen to him, so I wouldn't bother with these much, but it always interested me how everyone, including myself, is always looking for the "right" amount of differentiation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 12:08:05 GMT -5
I know these rankings often don't mean much, but this list certainly is bizarre. They have Crawford ranked #32 (by far the highest I've seen him ranked), and Dozier 15 spots behind him at #47. They also have Derrickson at #39, which is much higher than all other rankings as well. This is not really directed at you, Talos, but I always find reactions to differing recruitings rankings kind of strange. When every ranking in the same, then fans usually say rankers are just sheep, they are afraid to be different and get called out, that they are ranking on reputation. When someone is fairly different -- although not really that different given the accuracy and level of differentiation past the Top 20 -- people think they are crazy. Just interesting to me. I have no idea who Brandon Clay is and why I should listen to him, so I wouldn't bother with these much, but it always interested me how everyone, including myself, is always looking for the "right" amount of differentiation. He’s legit. Runs a well respected recruiting service out of GA and goes to a on of tournaments. Guaranteed his evaluations are based on what he has seen not heard, and he has always been very Hi on Marcus FWIW… Still it’s just one mans opinion and agree with what you wrote above 100%
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 13, 2014 12:13:09 GMT -5
This is not really directed at you, Talos, but I always find reactions to differing recruitings rankings kind of strange. When every ranking in the same, then fans usually say rankers are just sheep, they are afraid to be different and get called out, that they are ranking on reputation. When someone is fairly different -- although not really that different given the accuracy and level of differentiation past the Top 20 -- people think they are crazy. Just interesting to me. I have no idea who Brandon Clay is and why I should listen to him, so I wouldn't bother with these much, but it always interested me how everyone, including myself, is always looking for the "right" amount of differentiation. He’s legit. Runs a well respected recruiting service out of GA and goes to a on of tournaments. Guaranteed his evaluations are based on what he has seen not heard, and he has always been very Hi on Marcus FWIW… Still it’s just one mans opinion and agree with what you wrote above 100% Good to know. I honestly like to see someone posting exactly what they think sometimes -- let's you know a player's upside and downside -- as long as the person realizes they may be wrong.
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Post by Talos on Sept 13, 2014 15:52:06 GMT -5
I know these rankings often don't mean much, but this list certainly is bizarre. They have Crawford ranked #32 (by far the highest I've seen him ranked), and Dozier 15 spots behind him at #47. They also have Derrickson at #39, which is much higher than all other rankings as well. This is not really directed at you, Talos, but I always find reactions to differing recruitings rankings kind of strange. When every ranking in the same, then fans usually say rankers are just sheep, they are afraid to be different and get called out, that they are ranking on reputation. When someone is fairly different -- although not really that different given the accuracy and level of differentiation past the Top 20 -- people think they are crazy. Just interesting to me. I have no idea who Brandon Clay is and why I should listen to him, so I wouldn't bother with these much, but it always interested me how everyone, including myself, is always looking for the "right" amount of differentiation. I don't disagree with you SF, and I normally don't get too worked up about these rankings either. However, I just thought it was quite striking to see him have Crawford ahead of Dozier. But good to hear from Yaboy that this guy sees all these kids in person, which definitely makes him more qualified than me. Regardless, good to see he thinks so highly of Derrickson and Crawford.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 4:32:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 23:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 23:37:24 GMT -5
Marcus Derrickson (2015 6’8″ 250 lbs. Brewster Academy): Derrickson is a below the rim big that plays the game using size and strength inside. He can also spot up and knock down open threes to stretch the defense. He has good shooting touch from mid and long range. Marcus can also face up and drive the ball in to the lane. When he’s aggressive, he can be overpowering inside and be someone who likes to bang in paint. While what we saw of his post game didn’t always impress, he has solid feet in the post and with improved touch can be a very capable low post scorer in college. Derrickson’s best attribute, from what we saw, was his ability to rebound on the defensive end. He carves out space well and is able to secure the rebound. Overall, Georgetown has a skilled big who can be quite versatile offensively. Follow Marcus on Twitter @marcus_D24 hardwoodhoopscentral.com/this-is-our-summer-eybl-player-breakdown-part-11
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Sept 26, 2014 10:14:26 GMT -5
Marcus Derrickson (2015 6’8″ 250 lbs. Brewster Academy): Derrickson is a below the rim big that plays the game using size and strength inside. He can also spot up and knock down open threes to stretch the defense. He has good shooting touch from mid and long range. Marcus can also face up and drive the ball in to the lane. When he’s aggressive, he can be overpowering inside and be someone who likes to bang in paint. While what we saw of his post game didn’t always impress, he has solid feet in the post and with improved touch can be a very capable low post scorer in college. Derrickson’s best attribute, from what we saw, was his ability to rebound on the defensive end. He carves out space well and is able to secure the rebound. Overall, Georgetown has a skilled big who can be quite versatile offensively. Follow Marcus on Twitter @marcus_D24 hardwoodhoopscentral.com/this-is-our-summer-eybl-player-breakdown-part-11Drooling emoticon.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 26, 2014 10:42:43 GMT -5
Aside from Otto, I'm not sure we've gotten a defensive rebound in years.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 26, 2014 14:13:07 GMT -5
Aside from Otto, I'm not sure we've gotten a defensive rebound in years. It seemed like Moses got around 1,000 in the 2013 game at the Carrier Dome. I think the actual number was closer to 10.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 26, 2014 14:34:19 GMT -5
I am actually really looking forward to Derrickson joining the Hoyas. It seems like he has a nice balanced skill set, which is something we haven't had at the PF position the last several years. Sometimes, the guys who have longer, extended recruitments seem to get more attention, but I appreciate that Derrickson committed early on, and I'm looking forward to him joining.
The 2015-2016 team is going to be formidable. DSR, Peak, Copeland, White, Govan, Derrickson, plus we'll have Campbell, Mourning, Cameron, and Hayes. That's a potentially outstanding group, and it even doesn't contemplate any more 2015-2016 additions. Add Dozier and/or Rabb, and you might be looking at a real contender.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 26, 2014 14:50:03 GMT -5
I am actually really looking forward to Derrickson joining the Hoyas. It seems like he has a nice balanced skill set, which is something we haven't had at the PF position the last several years. Sometimes, the guys who have longer, extended recruitments seem to get more attention, but I appreciate that Derrickson committed early on, and I'm looking forward to him joining. The 2015-2016 team is going to be formidable. DSR, Peak, Copeland, White, Govan, Derrickson, plus we'll have Campbell, Mourning, Cameron, and Hayes. That's a potentially outstanding group, and it even doesn't contemplate any more 2015-2016 additions. Add Dozier and/or Rabb, and you might be looking at a real contender. Agreed, but I still feel like the team is one or two components away from being a real national contender in 2015-2016. Fingers still crossed...
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 26, 2014 14:53:32 GMT -5
I am actually really looking forward to Derrickson joining the Hoyas. It seems like he has a nice balanced skill set, which is something we haven't had at the PF position the last several years. Sometimes, the guys who have longer, extended recruitments seem to get more attention, but I appreciate that Derrickson committed early on, and I'm looking forward to him joining. The 2015-2016 team is going to be formidable. DSR, Peak, Copeland, White, Govan, Derrickson, plus we'll have Campbell, Mourning, Cameron, and Hayes. That's a potentially outstanding group, and it even doesn't contemplate any more 2015-2016 additions. Add Dozier and/or Rabb, and you might be looking at a real contender. Agreed, but I still feel like the team is one or two components away from being a real national contender in 2015-2016. Fingers still crossed... I kind of agree and I kind of disagree. I can imagine a world where this lineup: DSR LJ Peak White Copeland Govan Hayes, Mourning Derrickson, Cameron, etc. Campbell is performing at a Top 10 or even Top 5 level. It's no guarantee, so yeah, I'd love to add Rabb and Dozier and whomever else, because the above being great means pretty much all our recruits are as good or better than advertised. But if they are...
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 26, 2014 15:18:46 GMT -5
Actually, we've never had a great statistical d rebounder:
2014 - Lubick, 19.9% 2013 - Porter, 19.0% 2012 - Porter, 18.4% 2011 - Sims, 18.8% 2010 - Monroe, 25.0%
There we are. Sophomore Greg Monroe. I did not remember that.
D rebounds numbers can be inflated by "discretionary" boards, especially in the NBA, where some teams simply abandon the O boards to defend against transition D. By these, I mean those boards where the O runs away and everyone leaves the ball to the tallest guy on the court to grab. That said, 25% is pretty good and under 20% for your team leader really isn't.
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Post by beenaround on Sept 26, 2014 17:27:53 GMT -5
For those who have seen him....IS Derrickson similar to Sweetney coming out of high school? BTW...at that time, he was quite a prospect and talent.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 26, 2014 17:50:33 GMT -5
For those who have seen him....IS Derrickson similar to Sweetney coming out of high school? BTW...at that time, he was quite a prospect and talent. Sweetney was a man-child who put up monster numbers in high school by living in the paint. Derrickson hasn't been nearly as dominant but is more versatile and may have more upside because of that versatility (although I highly doubt he'll ever put up the numbers Sweetney did when he was at Georgetown). Derrickson has a faceup game to go along with his post game. He may even be better able to keep his weight under control than Sweetney was able to (and I think Sweetney tried on that front).
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 26, 2014 18:31:43 GMT -5
For those who have seen him....IS Derrickson similar to Sweetney coming out of high school? BTW...at that time, he was quite a prospect and talent. The upside comp I like is Draymond Green.
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