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Post by sleepy on Mar 27, 2012 13:18:37 GMT -5
just a note on the top 10 games of 1982 linked on the front page. It states incorrectly under the Wyoming game that we played and beat UNLV 62-48 that was in 1984. in 82 we beat Fresno Jerrys next stop.
Duly noted. Will be corrected.--Admin
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 27, 2012 13:19:45 GMT -5
Well, a few things. 1. I had seen Oregon State play quite a few Pac 10 games that year, and I thought they were really good. I was surprised that we got the final first seed over them - and I was shocked that we blew them off the court the way we did. That was a phenomenal performance. 2. The Louisville semifinal was, and remains, the best defensive game I've ever seen. Each team took the other completely out of its offense. A 40 minute war. 3. I recall that North Carolina was a one point favorite in the final, and I was amazed that we were considered on UNC's level, because that team was just so damn good. And then the game turned out to be quite possibly the best NCAA championship game ever. 4. I have always said that I was more upset by the Iowa game two years before than this UNC game. And I had never found anyone who agreed with me. Thanks, GP. It's nice to know I'm not alone. For Iowa, I didn't know if we would ever be in a position to reach a Final Four again, and then we lost by a point as a result of a miracle second half. Sort of like another game I won't mention. For UNC, I was just so proud of the way we had played that I didn't feel bad that we had lost, and I had a feeling that we might be back. The Iowa loss remains for me the single most crushing moment in my years of following the Hoyas. To lose the big lead to a barrage of 2 point jump shots even though we continued to play well offensively, and to know that we were losing two first round NBA draft picks with what seemed little chance of ever replacing them was beyond devastating. Villanova in 1985 remains a close second, but at least we had won the year before.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 27, 2012 14:14:48 GMT -5
That and the fact that i'm convinced that we would have been the only team that could have handled Lville that year. If only Ronnie Lester had reinjured the leg against us instead of the following week against denny crum.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 27, 2012 16:14:55 GMT -5
Another note - unless it's since been fixed. This morning, there was no box score for the Missouri game. The previous Nova box score appeared twice.
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Post by happyhoya1979 on Mar 27, 2012 21:12:22 GMT -5
I always am sickened by the bogus over and back call on John Duren toward the end of the Iowa game and the parade to the foul line on Iowa's end in the second half. There was no time clock then and we should have put the ball in a deep freeze like we did against OSU two years later. We would have won the championship that year. We easily handled the Iona team that blew out the eventual national champs Louisville. I was morose after that loss-felt worse than after the UNC and Villanova near-misses and was ten times more angry than after our recent losses against NC State and Davidson.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Mar 28, 2012 7:06:59 GMT -5
Hope this isn't too off topic, but for someone from class of 2006, this is an awesome thread.
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Post by hoya8185 on Mar 28, 2012 8:26:14 GMT -5
I started Georgetown in 1977 and med school in 1981. It may seem strange now but as students back then we really thought of Georgetown as what would now be called a "mid-major". I was at the game at the Garden when we upset then number 7 Holy Cross and also at the Missouri game on campus. It was hard for us to believe that we were actually the "Game of the Week" and that we would be discussed in the breadth as the big boys. I was in med school in 1982 and drove from DC to New Orleans on Thursday night (blowing off a neuro anotomy test) and crashed in a lounge at Tulane. The weather was actually cold for late March. It was almost surreal walking around New Orleans (which has to be the greatest town in the world for a final four) as a student from "little Georgetown" competing with the Big Boys. In fact many of the folks from the other schools thought that Georgetown was a 'All-Black" school. Tickets could be bought for about 2 dollars each for nose bleed seats and then everyone crammed into the student section. Mondays game was incredibly special from the start. It was clear to everyone -that this was going to be a historical game. The ending seemed to occur in slow motion-and then it was over. We then got back in our car (6 of us at 11 PM). and started to drive back to DC. Got pulled over speeding the next day in NC and explained to the officer how his fine team just beat ours. He gave us a warning and we were back in class on Wedneday (not sure how I did on my neuroanotomy test that day ). Things were never the same after that for Hoya basketball or for Georgetown university which quickly became a true national school.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 28, 2012 8:36:02 GMT -5
I started Georgetown in 1977 and med school in 1981. It may seem strange now but as students back then we really thought of Georgetown as what would now be called a "mid-major". I was at the game at the Garden when we upset then number 7 Holy Cross and also at the Missouri game on campus. It was hard for us to believe that we were actually the "Game of the Week" and that we would be discussed in the breadth as the big boys. I was in med school in 1982 and drove from DC to New Orleans on Thursday night (blowing off a neuro anotomy test) and crashed in a lounge at Tulane. The weather was actually cold for late March. It was almost surreal walking around New Orleans (which has to be the greatest town in the world for a final four) as a student from "little Georgetown" competing with the Big Boys. In fact many of the folks from the other schools thought that Georgetown was a 'All-Black" school. Tickets could be bought for about 2 dollars each for nose bleed seats and then everyone crammed into the student section. Mondays game was incredibly special from the start. It was clear to everyone -that this was going to be a historical game. The ending seemed to occur in slow motion-and then it was over. We then got back in our car (6 of us at 11 PM). and started to drive back to DC. Got pulled over speeding the next day in NC and explained to the officer how his fine team just beat ours. He gave us a warning and we were back in class on Wedneday (not sure how I did on my neuroanotomy test that day ). Things were never the same after that for Hoya basketball or for Georgetown university which quickly became a true national school. I hope you're not a neurologist. ;D
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Post by Boz on Mar 28, 2012 8:54:44 GMT -5
Now is is a historical game. Back then, it was a historic game. Just sayin'. ;D (I suppose, back then, it could also have been an historic game, depending on how you take your tea.)
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Post by hoya8185 on Mar 28, 2012 8:56:23 GMT -5
I work on prostate cancer ( the prostate is much less complicated then the brain !)
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 28, 2012 11:36:44 GMT -5
I work on prostate cancer ( the prostate is much less complicated then the brain !) Ah, that annoying little organ.
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Post by lebanesehoya on Mar 28, 2012 22:32:11 GMT -5
I was one year from being born but I have watched several of those games over and over again and still can't believe what happened. I just hope that in my lifetime, I get to witness a G'Town team make that run and hopefully win the whole damn thing!
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 29, 2012 10:09:05 GMT -5
Wisconsin mentioned "I'll never forget all of Patrick's blocked shots at the beginning of the game." If I recall correctly, three of those blocks were called as goal tending, Patrick being so pumped up he was ready to swat anything he saw on the court. I believe NC was intimidated in the middle for the rest of the game except for Worthy who was the star of the game showing all the moves of a real power forward.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 29, 2012 11:14:09 GMT -5
So many great stories from that weekend--from having no place to stay and ending up sleeping in the library carrels of Loyola University, wandering the French Quarter four straight nights, to almost walking into a robber being taken out of a Burger King on Canal Street by police, with a knife still in his back---all the sights and sounds of New Orleans with four 19 year old sophomores with nowhere to go and all day to get there. I could write a book on it. Nevertheless, one story I will gladly share. NCAA press passes were made available to both The HOYA and The Voice for the Final Four games. As sports editor, I was in line to cover all three games, but opted only to cover the UNC-Houston game because I really wanted to be in the student section instead, so two other HOYA reporters would cover the game itself (that, and with the "no cheering in the press box" rule, I'd probably get in trouble). For reasons that elude me today, I went to New Orleans with the understanding to pick up the pass at game day. Arriving at the press area, and wearing a sweater over my "Hoya Express" t-shirt, I asked for the pass. It wasn't there. It turned out Georgetown had the passes and whether I didn't ask or they didn't tell, the pass wasn't at the Superdome. I stood there for a moment and someone from the NCAA looked up, walked over to a press pass for the St. Petersburg Times that had gone unclaimed, put a new label on it, typed the words "The HOYA" on the pass, handed it to me, and said, "There you go." Three minutes before game time for the first semifinal, I was now walking to a courtside press seat, right on the floor, literally, with my feet on the fringe of the court. Impressive, and a little amusing a few minutes later when Mary Beth Marchiony, wife of the sports information director, walked over to press row with the HOYA's original press pass in hand, figuring to take the seat to watch the game. Well, the seat was taken. (Yes, the statute of limitations has passed on these stories.) But here's the real story. Five minutes into the UNC-Houston game, Carolina was up 16-4, and the place was as quiet as a 60,000 seat venue could be. The press row wasn't paying much attention and coming out of a time out, there began a commotion coming up from the end zone to our left. Writers started looking over, as if there was a fight in the stands or something. Suddenly the commotion turned into a sound of a dull roar, then it took over the place, in part due to the quiet from the time out. Even the offiicials were looking over, wondering what was going on--remember, there were no big screen TV's in the Superdome and the seating was so far away from the court, which was literally at midfield, that the dim lighting of the place obscured much of the seating. I looked over. A man was walking out of the long Superdome tunnel, the very tunnel I had walked through a few minutes earlier. The fans in that end zone stood up and started applauding--not cheering, not whooping it up, but heartfelt applause. It was entirely unscripted. That man was John Thompson, walking over to watch the first half of the UNC game with the Georgetown band. I have never been prouder to be associated with Georgetown University than that moment.
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Post by JB5 on Mar 29, 2012 11:35:57 GMT -5
Reading the excellent story on the finals from the link on the front page leads to one lesson that should be carved into stone for future generations of Hoyas: ALWAYS wear the dark blue and gray. If those were the uni colors in '82, maybe, just maybe, there may have been a different ending.
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Post by Hoya Rich on Mar 29, 2012 17:18:52 GMT -5
Love this thread.
I was 19 years old watching this game and though I didn't actually cry when Freddy made that fateful pass, I remember burying my face in my hands and keeping it there for some time. My brother, who was then just a couple of years out of Georgetown Medical School, tried to gently snap me out of my misery with: "Rich... he passed it because he thought it was his teammate. You realize that, right?" It was his way of making me excuse Freddy for what had happened. But in truth, I wasn't mad at Freddy. I was just crushed that we had lost.
The Tournament was just such a thrill-ride. We actually had a more difficult time with Wyoming in the first round than we did with Oregon State, who were deflated when we opened the game with two dunks (one by Patrick when he helped cause a steal). Fresno State's short center, I recall his name being Bobby Mason, attempted to get Ewing thrown out of the game by shoving his head violently during a battle for position; I had never seen Patrick get so upset before as he did at that moment. Louisville was just an ugly, physical battle between two teams who played defense and had great athletes at every spot.
I also recall with crystal clarity watching Patrick pull down the rebound on North Carolina's first shot attempt of the game, then run down the court and hit an incredible baseline jump shot seemingly from behind the backboard to open the game's scoring. What a performance by the true freshman. I still have his stat line imprinted in my brain: 10-15 FG, 23 points, 11 boards.
Of course, the one guy who we simply couldn't account for was James Worthy, who was playing with so much confidence and in such a groove by the time that Final rolled around. He finished so suddenly and ferociously with those dunks of his that I think he lifted his team's spirit single-handedly, because honestly, Sam Perkins, Matt Daugherty, and Jimmy Black did nothing in that game. Only Jordan really came through for the Tar Heels aside from Worthy, but not with any highlight reels or dunks; that was all left to Worthy.
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Post by unclebeets on Mar 29, 2012 18:05:33 GMT -5
I was part of the student brigade that went to that Final Four in New Orleans. What a weekend. Bourbon Street was unreal on Friday night, must have drank four gallons of hurricanes in about two hours. We went to that place that served those special French donuts with powdered sugar -- great fun until one of the girls in our group threw up all over herself -- I think some of the crawfish she'd eaten were still alive.
The first game on Saturday was Houston (featuring a VERY young Hakeem Olajuwon) vs. NC -- it was basically over after NC scored the first 14 points or so. The sight lines weren't as bad as I thought they'd be (I got my tickets through the Hoya Hoop Club), and the place was just nuts for six hours. I remember paying ten bucks for a Final Four t-shirt and feeling I'd paid too much (and it shrank).
Hoyas-Louisville was weird basketball-wise, one of those junkyard dog games where no one could sustain any offense. Hoyas only won by four (I think), but none of us seriously believed they might lose (or considered what we'd do the rest of the weekend if they did). It was also Fred Brown's best game as a Hoya -- an absolute lion on defense.
I have wondered whether the championship game might have turned out differently if Patrick hadn't gone postal with the goaltending on NC's early possessions. They got at least 10 free points that way. I also remember that the Hoyas had a number of opportunities to push the lead above five and missed on all of them.
Towards the end when it was really tight, Mike Hancock decided to play hero and air-balled a jumper from about 12 feet -- it took JTII all of four seconds to fasten him to the bench. Fred Brown's pass was a brutal way to go -- the student section turned into an oil painting. But I wasn't that upset about it, since the final result was not surprising -- they lost to a very good team that was just a little better, a little more polished than they were.
But it was one hell of a time.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 1, 2012 11:38:55 GMT -5
I was born in '75. My first true memory of GTown was the '85 loss to Nova. Man I cried like a baby after the game was over. I couldn't believe that we were losing to a team that we had beaten 3 times during the regular season. It makes more since now that I know how hard it is to beat a team that is close in talent multiple times in one year. The '96 team with AI that lost to UMASS still hurts also. I feel like we had more talent and I still believe that if Ray Allen doesn't make his prayer jumper we would have gotten the #1 out west. We would have made the final four that year and depending on matchups we might have won a championship.............
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 1, 2012 12:10:17 GMT -5
But here's the real story. Five minutes into the UNC-Houston game, Carolina was up 16-4, and the place was as quiet as a 60,000 seat venue could be. The press row wasn't paying much attention and coming out of a time out, there began a commotion coming up from the end zone to our left. Writers started looking over, as if there was a fight in the stands or something. Suddenly the commotion turned into a sound of a dull roar, then it took over the place, in part due to the quiet from the time out. Even the offiicials were looking over, wondering what was going on--remember, there were no big screen TV's in the Superdome and the seating was so far away from the court, which was literally at midfield, that the dim lighting of the place obscured much of the seating.
I looked over. A man was walking out of the long Superdome tunnel, the very tunnel I had walked through a few minutes earlier. The fans in that end zone stood up and started applauding--not cheering, not whooping it up, but heartfelt applause. It was entirely unscripted.
That man was John Thompson, walking over to watch the first half of the UNC game with the Georgetown band. I have never been prouder to be associated with Georgetown University than that moment. Outstanding story DFW. JT is behind every good thing that has happened to Hoya Hoops over the last 40 years. And... he is the single most important reason why I have always been so pleased and proud to be a Georgetown alumnus. Hoya Saxa!!
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Post by drquigley on Apr 1, 2012 20:35:15 GMT -5
The game was on ESPN Classic a few months ago and I DVR'd it. As sad as it ended it is still a great game to watch. Wow were those teams great.
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