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Post by deacon on Mar 30, 2012 21:48:38 GMT -5
Good to see the socially responsible Reverend Al call for an "escalation" in civil disobedience unless and until Zimmerman is arrested. This is classic Reverend Al. Insert one's self into a situation nd make it worse. Brawley, the Harlem fire, etc are al examples of his sense of social responsibility. Watch him slink away after his call results in the inevitable violence. He will claim that he did not know dropping a match on this tinderbox would lead to fire. And, as always, he will get a pass on his bad behavior. His bad behavior? First of all, the reason Al Sharpton is involved is because Trayvon Martin's father personally reached out to him and asked him to talk about this issue because they were getting no where dealing with the Sanford police department regarding this issue. This shooting happened well over a month ago, but it was until people like Rev. Sharpton, Joe Madison, Warren Ballentine, Trymaine Lee and others talked/wrote about it daily until the rest of the world woke up and started to pay attention to what happened. That's why Rev. Sharpton is involved in this story, he was asked to be by Trayvon Martin's family and lawyers. And why would you say that a call for an escalation in "peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions" will result results in "inevitable violence"? Inevitable? Why would violence be inevitable in this situation? I'm very curious.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2012 4:58:22 GMT -5
Because Al Sharpton is in the business of fomenting trouble. Ask the Harlem store owner who was refered to as a white interloper one day by Reverend Al and watched his store go up in flames days later. Ask Steven Pagones who was defamed by this charlatan and suffered death threats in connection with the Brawley hoax. Reverend Al is nothing but trouble. We've already seen the ransacking of a pharmacy by Trayvon's supporters. Thre are people with "bounties" on Zimmeman and Reverend Tracksuit wants to up the ante? This is socially responsible behavior?
I hope and pray I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 31, 2012 6:08:25 GMT -5
Good to see the socially responsible Reverend Al call for an "escalation" in civil disobedience unless and until Zimmerman is arrested. This is classic Reverend Al. Insert one's self into a situation nd make it worse. Brawley, the Harlem fire, etc are al examples of his sense of social responsibility. Watch him slink away after his call results in the inevitable violence. He will claim that he did not know dropping a match on this tinderbox would lead to fire. And, as always, he will get a pass on his bad behavior. His bad behavior? First of all, the reason Al Sharpton is involved is because Trayvon Martin's father personally reached out to him and asked him to talk about this issue because they were getting no where dealing with the Sanford police department regarding this issue. This shooting happened well over a month ago, but it was until people like Rev. Sharpton, Joe Madison, Warren Ballentine, Trymaine Lee and others talked/wrote about it daily until the rest of the world woke up and started to pay attention to what happened. That's why Rev. Sharpton is involved in this story, he was asked to be by Trayvon Martin's family and lawyers. And why would you say that a call for an escalation in "peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions" will result results in "inevitable violence"? Inevitable? Why would violence be inevitable in this situation? I'm very curious. Oh, you're not just very curious, but you're very curious? Do disagree with the NAACP? Turner Clayton, the Seminole County chapter president of the NAACP, reacted immediately to Sharpton's warning, saying, "We hope that the citizens of Sanford will govern themselves accordingly. We are not calling for any sanctions, against any business or anyone else. And, of course, what Rev. Sharpton does, that's strictly the [National] Action Network. We can't condone that part of the conversation, if that's what he said." And if you really believe that the only reason Rev. Al is in Flordia is because "Trayvon Martin's father personally reached out to him," then you probably also believe Jimmy B. knows nothing about the shenanigans going on in upstate NY.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 31, 2012 6:37:12 GMT -5
Nice try, but this is not about Al Sharpton.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2012 6:51:48 GMT -5
Nor should it be. But there he is ratcheting up the discord as is his stock in trade. If Zimmerman gunned this young man down maliciously and criminally, he should rot in jail and in hell. Reverend Al has already earned his spot in both.
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Post by deacon on Mar 31, 2012 8:01:27 GMT -5
His bad behavior? First of all, the reason Al Sharpton is involved is because Trayvon Martin's father personally reached out to him and asked him to talk about this issue because they were getting no where dealing with the Sanford police department regarding this issue. This shooting happened well over a month ago, but it was until people like Rev. Sharpton, Joe Madison, Warren Ballentine, Trymaine Lee and others talked/wrote about it daily until the rest of the world woke up and started to pay attention to what happened. That's why Rev. Sharpton is involved in this story, he was asked to be by Trayvon Martin's family and lawyers. And why would you say that a call for an escalation in "peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions" will result results in "inevitable violence"? Inevitable? Why would violence be inevitable in this situation? I'm very curious. Oh, you're not just very curious, but you're very curious? Do disagree with the NAACP? Turner Clayton, the Seminole County chapter president of the NAACP, reacted immediately to Sharpton's warning, saying, "We hope that the citizens of Sanford will govern themselves accordingly. We are not calling for any sanctions, against any business or anyone else. And, of course, what Rev. Sharpton does, that's strictly the [National] Action Network. We can't condone that part of the conversation, if that's what he said." And if you really believe that the only reason Rev. Al is in Flordia is because "Trayvon Martin's father personally reached out to him," then you probably also believe Jimmy B. knows nothing about the shenanigans going on in upstate NY. If Trayvon Martin's family didn't reach out to people like Rev. Sharpton, we wouldn't even be talking about this story in the first place. Media outlets like CNN, MSNBC, FOX News ignored this story until he began talking about it on his radio and television show. It boggles the mind how we assail him for his involvement but people like Glenn Beck and others who are doing their best to assail the character of Trayvon Martin as if any of the things he's being accused of being have any bearing on what happened on the night in question. Why have Glenn Beck and Tucker Carlson and so many others involved themselves in this story? And the National Action Network is a completely different organization than the NAACP. But I fail to see the NAACP releasing a statement in which they draw the distinction between themselves and the National Action Network as proof that violence is inevitable in this matter. And if you're going to try to give me proof that Sharpton has a track record of inciting violence, give me an example this century. People mention Tawana Brawley, which happened 25 years ago, but never mention Howard Beach, Yusef Hawkins, Sean Bell, Amadou Diallo and others. I know the reason why, it's just funny to me.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2012 8:07:55 GMT -5
Reverend Al is in this for Reverend Al only. Whethe 10 daysor 25 years ago, he is a race-baiting charlatan who beongs in prison and hell.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2012 9:26:49 GMT -5
Get 'em, deacon!
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2012 9:39:52 GMT -5
I mentioned Brawley nd the Harlem fire as two clear examples of Shbarpton's propensity to throw gasoline on fires. If you have examples of him working for calm, I'm all ears.
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Post by deacon on Mar 31, 2012 10:40:38 GMT -5
I mentioned Brawley nd the Harlem fire as two clear examples of Shbarpton's propensity to throw gasoline on fires. If you have examples of him working for calm, I'm all ears. And I gave you examples such as Howard Beach, Bensonhurst after the murder of Yusef Hawkins, Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo. Not once did any of those peaceful marches result in any kind of violence from protesters led by Rev. Sharpton despite the protesters being called every racial epithet known to man. As a matter of fact, someone - his name escapes me - actually stabbed Rev. Sharpton during the march to protest the death of Yusef Hawkins and Rev. Sharpton asked the judge for leniency during his sentencing. But you're right, for all of that, he deserves a spot in hell.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2012 10:52:57 GMT -5
For Brawley alone. For the Harlem fire as well. Under your analysis, Zimerman if guilty should get a pass if there have been other occcasions where he did not shoot someone.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2012 12:26:29 GMT -5
Under your analysis, Zimerman if guilty should get a pass if there have been other occcasions where he did not shoot someone. What? Surely you jest.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2012 12:44:19 GMT -5
Simply stated, Deacon stated that Reverend Al has led protests etc without violence and thus hould get a pass on Brawley and the Harlem fire. If so, would not Zimmerman be entitled to a pass on Martin if he had patrolled on 100s of nights without incident? Of course he wouldn't and neither should Reverend Tracksuit get a pass.
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Post by deacon on Mar 31, 2012 14:09:28 GMT -5
Simply stated, Deacon stated that Reverend Al has led protests etc without violence and thus hould get a pass on Brawley and the Harlem fire. If so, would not Zimmerman be entitled to a pass on Martin if he had patrolled on 100s of nights without incident? Of course he wouldn't and neither should Reverend Tracksuit get a pass. You hate Rev. Sharpton and think he should banished to eternal damnation, fine. I'm done. This conversation is the exact reason why I tried as long as I could to stay out of this thread.
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Post by deacon on Mar 31, 2012 14:13:21 GMT -5
Simply stated, Deacon stated that Reverend Al has led protests etc without violence and thus hould get a pass on Brawley and the Harlem fire. If so, would not Zimmerman be entitled to a pass on Martin if he had patrolled on 100s of nights without incident? Of course he wouldn't and neither should Reverend Tracksuit get a pass. And to be clear, I never said Sharpton should get a pass, I stated other examples of peaceful marches he led to dispute your claim that there would inevitably be violence as a result of him calling for peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions. Stop moving the goal post.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2012 14:14:34 GMT -5
I don't hate anyone. Rev. Tracksuits antics I hate. Hate the sin, love the sinner.
Sorry to see you go. You bring passion and intelligent thought here. We just don't see eye to eye on. This.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 2, 2012 9:30:47 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Apr 2, 2012 10:14:15 GMT -5
[/a][/u][/quote] In general, hate crime legislation is anathema to me. With specific reference to this case, anyone who is even introducing the possibility of attaching such a charge to any eventual prosecution -- at this point in time -- is simply acting irresponsibly. Yes, Maxine Waters, looking square in your direction right now.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 2, 2012 10:27:46 GMT -5
[/a][/u][/quote] In general, hate crime legislation is anathema to me. With specific reference to this case, anyone who is even introducing the possibility of attaching such a charge to any eventual prosecution -- at this point in time -- is simply acting irresponsibly. Yes, Maxine Waters, looking square in your direction right now. [/quote] You mean you don't think a hate crime should be charged when Zimmerman said this: "This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black."
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Post by Boz on Apr 2, 2012 10:31:35 GMT -5
One of NBC's finest hours.
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