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Post by drd13 on Mar 18, 2012 13:49:01 GMT -5
sims should be ashamed of himself for yelling at otto at the end of the game. he acted like a fool. it's not otto's fault you were stuck on the bench. classless move by henry. they aren't beating anyone when the seniors fail to show up. Agreed. That was heartbreaking. Was it a bad shot? Absolutely, but Henry is supposed to be a senior leader. I was disappointed to see that him screaming at Otto would be one of his last moments in a Hoya uniform. |
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Post by wahoohoya on Mar 18, 2012 13:49:25 GMT -5
This game was lost on the glass. Which is disappointing given how solid we have been this year. We played hard but just not tough enough.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 18, 2012 13:49:50 GMT -5
Good try by Jason at end--gave it a great look and did nice job. That last play out of a timeout was disgusting. Unfortunately-it's common place, along with turnovers, giving up rebounds/putbacks off opponents missed FT's and the players have changed over years but problems remain same. Thought III's comments coming out of Half were questionable as well. Did he watch same game? They team wasn't rushing shots--they were passing good looks up and when his team fell behind and had to play faster-they once again produced. Oh well--onto offseason and just have to hope that he somehow figures out that his team is best when they play more aggressive/with urgency. I agree with JT3 on the rushed shots in the 1st half. Jason had a few and Jabril's 2nd 3 was a horrible shot. |
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 18, 2012 13:50:22 GMT -5
Are you really serious??? Go Edited yourself. How IS he a tournament coach lately? His teams have probably underperformed seed expectations more than any other coach in the last 5 years. No one said he should be fired, but these tournament exits are inexcusable. I can't believe I'm wasting time responding to this, but this wasn't some ordinary 11, but even if it was, you're talking about a top 45 NCAA team. Top 15 teams lose to top 45 teams all the time, particularly where the matchup isn't right. People who draw conclusions based on a 1- or a 3-game sample instead of a 90-game sample are called idiots. |
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Mar 18, 2012 13:50:27 GMT -5
a teaching moment isn't yelling at your teammate that was doing his best ON the floor, not a pouting cheerleader on the bench.
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Post by dikembe on Mar 18, 2012 13:51:14 GMT -5
JT III clearly is a better than average coach, not a GREAT coach. The execution of his plays coming off timeouts have been horrendous for a long time now. He is the best we can hope to get at Georgetown with our limited budget and facilities. The best we can hope for now is to make the tourney on a regular basis with a rare run in the tourney. Thats who we are now.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 18, 2012 13:51:22 GMT -5
How IS he a tournament coach lately? His teams have probably underperformed seed expectations more than any other coach in the last 5 years. No one said he should be fired, but these tournament exits are inexcusable. I can't believe I'm wasting time responding to this, but this wasn't some ordinary 11, but even if it was, you're talking about a top 45 NCAA team. Top 15 teams lose to top 45 teams all the time, particularly where the matchup isn't right. People who draw conclusions based on a 1- or a 3-game sample instead of a 90-game sample are called idiots. Thank you, Big Dog. Right on. |
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 18, 2012 13:51:32 GMT -5
This game was lost on the glass. Which is disappointing given how solid we have been this year. We played hard but just not tough enough. They had better front court people than most we've seem. Teams with decent bigs like Syracuse, Marquette with Gardner, Cincy with Gates, etc. gave us fits this year. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 18, 2012 13:51:51 GMT -5
sims should be ashamed of himself for yelling at otto at the end of the game. he acted like a fool. it's not otto's fault you were stuck on the bench. classless move by henry. ?? Were you reading his lips? |
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Post by Highsmith on Mar 18, 2012 13:51:57 GMT -5
Very disappointing loss--just couldn't overcome Henry not being able to stay in the game. Hollis stepped it up, but unfortunately, no one else did. A great season overall though and a heck of a fun one to watch. All the losing to a double digit seed talk and JTIII tournament coaching talk will ebb and flow as the offseason progresses, but some good things were figured out this season and I expect it to continue into next season, especially if we still have a guy named Hollis and add a guy named Nerlens. Games like these are when we missed being able to bring a Moses or Tyler off the bench--especially Moses, who could continue to anchor the middle on defense and allow Nate to pass from the high post and be an additional defender/rebounder instead of having to be the only "big man" on the floor. We were very fortunate that there weren't many games this year when Henry was forced to sit too much. NC St seemed to have his spin move scouted well and they set up for those 2 charges which changed the whole game. Even without adding Nerlens next year, we basically replace Henry with Moses, Tyler and Bolden......they, along with a sophomore Hopkins and junior Nate should be a strong interior. I look for Greg and Otto to make huge strides and with Markel, Jabril, DSR and hopefully Hollis, we should be great on the wings too.
HUGE nod to Jason and Henry--two seniors to be proud of. A rough one to go out on, but they did us proud all year and will continue to do so as they move on after college. Can't wait for the 2012-13 season to start!!!
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Post by mfk24 on Mar 18, 2012 13:52:27 GMT -5
Are you really serious??? Go Edited yourself. How IS he a tournament coach lately? His teams have probably underperformed seed expectations more than any other coach in the last 5 years. No one said he should be fired, but these tournament exits are inexcusable. The fact is, you can game plan all you want, you can X and O, you can make the right substitutions, you can call timeouts , but the PLAYERS have to make the plays and the guys today didn't make enough of them to win. The NCAA tournament is single elimination.....it's who makes plays to win on THAT day. The fact that you blame this loss of III means you obviously weren't watching the game. |
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 18, 2012 13:52:44 GMT -5
sims should be ashamed of himself for yelling at otto at the end of the game. he acted like a fool. it's not otto's fault you were stuck on the bench. classless move by henry. they aren't beating anyone when the seniors fail to show up. Agreed. That was heartbreaking. Was it a bad shot? Absolutely, but Henry is supposed to be a senior leader. I was disappointed to see that him screaming at Otto would be one of his last moments in a Hoya uniform. Can you say for sure he was criticizing Otto? Even if he was, pardon the kid (he is a kid by the way) for expressing his frustration upon committing the 5th foul in the final game of his collegiate career. Geez the things people focus on around here are insane. |
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 18, 2012 13:52:47 GMT -5
JT III clearly is a better than average coach, not a GREAT coach. The execution of his plays coming off timeouts have been horrendous for a long time now. He is the best we can hope to get at Georgetown with our limited budget and facilities. The best we can hope for now is to make the tourney on a regular basis with a rare run in the tourney. Thats who we are now. This just isn't true. We've scored off timeouts any number of times this season, including in critical momentum / end-of-game plays. And I'll take making the tourney on a regular basis over the decade or so that preceded JTIII's arrival. |
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Post by RDF on Mar 18, 2012 13:52:59 GMT -5
Good try by Jason at end--gave it a great look and did nice job. That last play out of a timeout was disgusting. Unfortunately-it's common place, along with turnovers, giving up rebounds/putbacks off opponents missed FT's and the players have changed over years but problems remain same. Thought III's comments coming out of Half were questionable as well. Did he watch same game? They team wasn't rushing shots--they were passing good looks up and when his team fell behind and had to play faster-they once again produced. Oh well--onto offseason and just have to hope that he somehow figures out that his team is best when they play more aggressive/with urgency. Do you really think that was the play he drew up? I think Otto saw the big moment, passed up the 3, and instead of making the next pass decided to be the hero. Maybe next year he will be that guy but that was a boneheaded play if I've ever seen one. How many times has Georgetown failed to get a good shot out of a timeout? For how many seasons? When the same result continues to happen in same scenario, while the rosters turnover, where does any confidence come from seeing Hoyas in that situation? Needed timeout more at that point--down 2, plenty of time if you miss to extend the game. These timeouts when you are on offense late in a game are odd. They are too valuable to give up. Also-based on how today's game was going--how does Hollis Thompson not take that shot? You have to read the way game is being played in moment and live/die with what your best player does. If Hollis gets it--maybe they run 2 guys at him and someone slips to hoop for easy look? If they lay off him-he gets shot and I think everyone lives with result. Just my two cents and I'm very proud of team this year overall. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 18, 2012 13:53:07 GMT -5
sims should be ashamed of himself for yelling at otto at the end of the game. he acted like a fool. it's not otto's fault you were stuck on the bench. classless move by henry. they aren't beating anyone when the seniors fail to show up. Easy dude. Henry played with huge heart all season, and undoubtedly was extremely disappointed that he did not contribute today, in part because of the zebras. Obviously the play was NOT designed for a contested 18-footer with 15 seconds left. Yes Henry could have waited until later to make his point, but the emotion of seeing your last moments as a Hoya drain away just overcame him. |
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 18, 2012 13:53:21 GMT -5
Sims needs to look in the mirror before complaining about anyone else. Sure, he had a good year (not great) but he wasted his first three years on the hilltop.
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 18, 2012 13:54:07 GMT -5
As we all recognize, if Clark's 3 at the buzzer had gone in, JTIII is a Editeding genius.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 18, 2012 13:54:15 GMT -5
sims should be ashamed of himself for yelling at otto at the end of the game. he acted like a fool. it's not otto's fault you were stuck on the bench. classless move by henry. they aren't beating anyone when the seniors fail to show up. Huh? Give the kid a break. It's his senior year and his team has fought back to have a chance to force OT and Otto takes that shot with 15secs on the clock. Hank said the same thing I said and my investment will be the same next year............. That was the best thing that could happen because Otto is the type of player that will not let that happen again next year............. |
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Post by harlemhoya on Mar 18, 2012 13:54:30 GMT -5
Per @evandanielscout, Nerlens Noel, the nation's No. 1 recruit in 2012, has trimmed his list to Kentucky, Syracuse and Georgetown.
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Post by alleninxis on Mar 18, 2012 13:55:12 GMT -5
I never saw defensive rebounding issues coming this year, not in this spot. Expected us to have to over come TO's at some point but not the rebounding.
Tough loss, the last several minutes of the first half and into the 2nd will sting for a while. Officiating or not, guys just didn't control what they could control well enough - TO's, rebounds. Just Felt like we were back on our heels reacting and instead of throwing the punches like we did vs Belmont.
That said, terrific year and sad to see Henry & Jason go. This was an important year for the program and the team did well. Lot of young talent, size and IMO..the desire to get better.
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