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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 14, 2005 12:18:05 GMT -5
NCSU went 7-9 in a top-heavy ACC, then won two games in the ACC Tourney against a terrible FSU team and a Chris-Paul-less Wake. Their best win out of conference was against Purdue, they lost to SJU and WVU, and they beat a bunch of creampuffs early.
Do they deserve a tourney bid?
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Post by HoyaSox04 on Mar 14, 2005 12:26:20 GMT -5
NC State didn't deserve a bid over either GU or ND, but certainly not over Indiana or Depaul, the two teams who I think got screwed the most in this whole thing...
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 13:01:20 GMT -5
The injury 'bug' hit them hard this season...
I think they're playing well at the right time...
Considering we faltered against Providence and St. John's, I can see them getting in...
Notre Dame...I didn't think they did enough down the stretch...didn't they lose to Seton Hall and Rutgers?
How in the world did UCLA get in?
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 14, 2005 13:13:33 GMT -5
I have followed them throughout the year down here and Tony Bethel's absence was huge for them. Since he has come back they have been a different team and closed 6-3 with the 3 losses being to UNC, Duke and WF.
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Post by Fan Of The Game on Mar 14, 2005 13:23:44 GMT -5
How come Bethel didn't play in the last two ACC tourney games?
Same injury?
Two reasons I would have picked NC State over Georgetown: 19 wins versus 17 wins and a good finish to the season versus a bad finish to the season. In the other criterea, we're about equal. I have no problem with NC State being in the tourney.
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Post by FOTP on Mar 14, 2005 13:32:16 GMT -5
Bethel had a hamstring injury for both games.
That win over Wake was pretty big for them...although I discount it slightly without Paul playing.
We didn't deserve to get in, but we were closer than people think IMO.
Oh well...win the NIT!!!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 14, 2005 13:41:07 GMT -5
I have followed them throughout the year down here and Tony Bethel's absence was huge for them. Since he has come back they have been a different team and closed 6-3 with the 3 losses being to UNC, Duke and WF. Quite a bit of that finish was without Bethel. They had three big wins, and one was versus a Paul-less Wake and one was versus an Elder-less Tech. Woohoo. They got helped by injuries as well. |
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Post by JimmyHoya on Mar 14, 2005 19:59:34 GMT -5
Elder tends to suck it up a lot though.
See yesterday's 3-17 shooting performance.
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Post by Joe Hoya on Mar 14, 2005 22:02:37 GMT -5
NC State didn't deserve a bid over either GU or ND, but certainly not over Indiana or Depaul, the two teams who I think got screwed the most in this whole thing... Indiana was screwed by losing 13 games. |
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Post by SaxaCD on Mar 15, 2005 8:45:26 GMT -5
I'll say it for the 100th time -- you should have to at least go .500 in your own conference to get an at-large bid. Going 7-9 in the ACC this year would be like going 6-10 or 5-11 in the Big East.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 15, 2005 8:56:58 GMT -5
Thank you SaxaCd. Even given the ACC tourney, NCSU was 9-10 in the ACC, with their biggest win against Wake w/o Paul. Compare that to 9-8 for ND w/ wins over BC and UConn, or 9-9 for Gtown. Probably none of these teams deserved a bid, but to give the bid to NCSU makes no sense...unless it would hurt some feelings to give the Big East seven bids and the ACC only four...  |
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Post by hoopsmccan on Mar 15, 2005 9:27:08 GMT -5
It seems like this year all the bubble teams have more holes than usual. Looking at NC State's resume, I don't think they deserve being in, but I know that G-town, ND and MD don't deserve it either. Past years, it always seemed like someone legitimately got screwed, but I don't think any of the bubble teams have compelling cases (admitting ignorance of the resumes of juggernauts like Buffalo and Holy Cross).
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