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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 5, 2012 12:31:58 GMT -5
Agreed with Otto being the potential zone buster at the FT line. I think Hollis could be deadly from there as well, but JTIII may want him on the wing to receive a pass from Otto if the defense collapses on the middle.
Sims has to be on a tight leash hoisting those 17 footers. He has to be shooting from 15 and in. He's been so good at the FT line recently, that I'm hoping that translates into pure jumpers against the zone. But he's got to be in position to receive and make a play a little closer to the basket.
I think we'll play both man and zone to start but my guess is that we'll have a better chance of success if we zone Cuse with our length on the wings. Melo has improved, but he does not have excellent post up moves that will cause Henry problems. He's best moving into space and receiving passes from teammates when they drive and dish. With our length and quickness in the zone, I think we can be effective keeping Triche and Jardine on the perimeter shooting 3s. Hopefully they have a cold night from outside and we can crash the boards effectively.
Of course, Joseph and Sutherland will be a handful because they can shoot and drive as well. And Waiters and Carter-Williams are excellent off the bench. We will have our hands full.
Jabril, Whitt, and Otto should be getting the bulk of the minutes when we are in that 2-3 zone. They need to be ready to move laterally with hands up and crash boards.
Keep this game slow and agonizing and we have a shot. Our offense has been so anemic lately that I don't see us winning a shoot out.
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Post by NoBoumtjeInTheYaYaRoom on Feb 5, 2012 13:10:12 GMT -5
I know many of you dislike emphasis on the polls, but making the top 10, especially for Cuse game, has meaning for me. Any chance we crack it? Obviously we pass Creighton and UNLV. One would have to assume we pass Michigan State after a loss to unranked Illinois earlier in week even if they beat Michigan today. Kansas would be the key. I'll say they stay ahead of us and were #11.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Feb 5, 2012 13:55:01 GMT -5
Hollis had a very good shooting game last year up at the Dome, as did Markel (in limited minutes). Jason chipped in with 12. Markel needs to be smart early on with the hand-checking and cheapie fouls...we need him. He appears to be the kind of kid that is unfazed in hostile territory (see, e.g., Cuse last season, Louisville this season). This could be a Hollis erupts for 20+ game. Will be a great experience for the frosh -- the place will be rocking with froth-mouthed, pasty white fatties screaming bloody murder. Yep. Like blueeagle said earlier, I think this will be Bayi 2.0 - with more at stake. Expect the home cooking to be even worse, expect bottles to be thrown at you, expect to be literally kicked in the head with impunity.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 5, 2012 16:13:43 GMT -5
Yeah I think we're 11th or 12th.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 5, 2012 17:38:18 GMT -5
Hopkins is another guy who can hit that foul line J, but he'll need a big in the back to board. He's used to coming in at the five. Love that you have this type of confidence in hop...just think it's a little too early in his development to take on this role. The cuse is a brutal place to play for a first timer.
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Post by kettlehill on Feb 5, 2012 18:18:24 GMT -5
Frosh will be OK. Jason and Hollis will bring it. But the key is Henry: if he plays like he did 2nd half vs Uconn, we win. If he worries about Melo's shot block and throws it up, not so good. On the road, bring it from the start Henry!!
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 5, 2012 18:24:01 GMT -5
Play with some confidence and aggression (when warranted) on offense and the Hoyas have a chance. Their defense and rebounding are mostly consistent, it is that other important part of the game that sometimes abandons them.
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Post by kettlehill on Feb 5, 2012 18:42:26 GMT -5
-- the place will be rocking with froth-mouthed, pasty white fatties screaming bloody murder
Well done!!
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 5, 2012 23:04:12 GMT -5
I know many of you dislike emphasis on the polls, but making the top 10, especially for Cuse game, has meaning for me. Any chance we crack it? Obviously we pass Creighton and UNLV. One would have to assume we pass Michigan State after a loss to unranked Illinois earlier in week even if they beat Michigan today. Kansas would be the key. I'll say they stay ahead of us and were #11. I think we do with Duke losing at home today to an unranked Miami. Losing at home to MIami has to be worth 6 spots......... ;D
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Post by tjm62 on Feb 5, 2012 23:18:30 GMT -5
Love the orange-colored warning at the top of the screen.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 5, 2012 23:49:04 GMT -5
I know many of you dislike emphasis on the polls, but making the top 10, especially for Cuse game, has meaning for me. Any chance we crack it? Obviously we pass Creighton and UNLV. One would have to assume we pass Michigan State after a loss to unranked Illinois earlier in week even if they beat Michigan today. Kansas would be the key. I'll say they stay ahead of us and were #11. I think we do with Duke losing at home today to an unranked Miami. Losing at home to MIami has to be worth 6 spots......... ;D ......for every school not named "Duke"
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Post by bigelephant on Feb 6, 2012 6:25:19 GMT -5
I like to play one game at a time but you still have to have an eye on the overall picture by maybe approaching future games in blocks of three.
Syracuse just stands alone this year for us – then there is :
1) St Johns At Providence At Seton Hall
2) Villanova Notre Dame At Marquette Looking at reality in the face this is the toughest gauntlet we play this season. 2-5 is not out of the question nor is 5-2 or anything in between. I doubt we can do better but I am hoping for that. I doubt we will do worse. 4 of the seven games are away and this makes it harder. There’s nothing in the way they have been playing that gives me a lot of confidence they can end these blocks at 5-2 BUT they have been winning the dirty sloppy games for the most part.
This is SHOW ME time ( are you listening Otto?), Nate, Henry, Jason, Jabril, Mikael, Greg, Markel and Hollis! Let’s run the table.
Basically, what I’m saying is Syracuse is HUGE in terms of a fabulous season. Fingers crossed, let get’em!
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 6, 2012 7:48:56 GMT -5
Play confidently and get back on defense. If the Hoyas do that all game, it will become about making shots in the half court and for as good as they are, Syracuse is really not a great jump shooting team. Put them on the line, bump them, grab them, do whatever you have to do but don't give them easy ones and the Hoyas have a good chance.
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Post by calhoya on Feb 6, 2012 8:15:58 GMT -5
I am not surprised that this team has so many turnovers because it is young. Starks, Clark and Hollis are not known as the best ballhandlers and the freshmen are still learning. However, the two statistics that surprise me heading into the game with the Orange are the team's poor offensive rebounding (16th in the Big East) and free throws (13th ranked). Given the height of this team, it seems that we should be better on the offensive boards. I assume it is because in the system, our bigs are often playing up top or away from the basket. Against a tall team like Syracuse, we absolutely have to have some second-chance opportunities. As for free throws, it is an unfortunate reminder of the "old days" under Pops, when the team often kept others in the game with horrible free throw shooting.
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Post by stafford72 on Feb 6, 2012 8:33:04 GMT -5
One significant reason for lower offensive rebounds is the quality of shots we take. When there are fewer misses there will be fewer opportunities for offensive rebounds. The overall quality of play in college basketball has deteriorated and poor shooting percentages with the abundance of offensive rebounding opportunities is the consequence. Overall, rebounding has not been a problem for Gtown this season.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Feb 6, 2012 8:40:52 GMT -5
I like to play one game at a time but you still have to have an eye on the overall picture by maybe approaching future games in blocks of three. Syracuse just stands alone this year for us – then there is : 1) St Johns At Providence At Seton Hall 2) Villanova Notre Dame At Marquette Looking at reality in the face this is the toughest gauntlet we play this season. 2-5 is not out of the question nor is 5-2 or anything in between. I doubt we can do better but I am hoping for that. I doubt we will do worse. 4 of the seven games are away and this makes it harder. There’s nothing in the way they have been playing that gives me a lot of confidence they can end these blocks at 5-2 BUT they have been winning the dirty sloppy games for the most part. This is SHOW ME time ( are you listening Otto?), Nate, Henry, Jason, Jabril, Mikael, Greg, Markel and Hollis! Let’s run the table. Basically, what I’m saying is Syracuse is HUGE in terms of a fabulous season. Fingers crossed, let get’em! I have to disagree with this. The Syracuse game caps a four game group of @pitt, UConn, USF, @cuse. I think that is/was our most difficult stretch. I think the next four are the easiest part of the Big East season for us, with two tough games to close the season. Regardless of what happens on Wednesday, this team should win the four games starting with SJU.
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Post by bmartin on Feb 6, 2012 8:50:01 GMT -5
In Big East play Georgetown has rebounded 33.6 percent of misses on the offensive end. That is above average nationally but only 10th in Big East because this is a great offensive rebounding league. Georgetown is allowing BE opponents to rebound only 31.6 percent of their misses which ranks #1 in defensive rebounding in league play.
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Post by Elvado on Feb 6, 2012 9:11:07 GMT -5
-- the place will be rocking with froth-mouthed, pasty white fatties screaming bloody murder Well done!! And those will be the Cuse players' Moms...
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Post by daymondmyles on Feb 6, 2012 10:12:50 GMT -5
I don't understand the love of Cuse's shooting or their back court/swing men in general. Excluding Michael Carter-Williams (who has only made 6 3 pointers all year and doesn't really factor into their rotation in real games), their top 3 3P shooters are Triche, Waiters and Joseph who hit 38%, 35% and 33% respectively. None of those guys hits above 50% from 2 (in fact 2 of them hit below 45%). That's just not good. By comparison, Hollis, Markel and Jason hit 48%, 41% and 35% from 3 and 49%, 50% and 50% from 2. The battle will not be lost on shooting. It comes down to turnovers, limiting fast breaks and penetrating their big frontcourt.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 6, 2012 10:14:42 GMT -5
I don't understand the love of Cuse's shooting or their back court/swing men in general. Excluding Michael Carter-Williams (who has only made 6 3 pointers all year and doesn't really factor into their rotation in real games), their top 3 3P shooters are Triche, Waiters and Joseph who hit 38%, 35% and 33% respectively. None of those guys hits above 50% from 2 (in fact 2 of them hit below 45%). That's just not good. By comparison, Hollis, Markel and Jason hit 48%, 41% and 35% from 3 and 49%, 50% and 50% from 2. The battle will not be lost on shooting. It comes down to turnovers, limiting fast breaks and penetrating their big frontcourt. Good post.
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