eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Oct 21, 2016 0:48:21 GMT -5
We are gloating but where are we heading? Same bowl we are circling unless we do something. Easy to delight in someone else's demise. Let's be honest with ourselves.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 21, 2016 7:43:17 GMT -5
Apples and oranges, my friend.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 21, 2016 8:19:20 GMT -5
Apples and oranges, my friend. Agreed, but the decline in Georgetown's men's sports across the board is a point of concern. Baseball continues to struggle, football is not making headway, lacrosse is at a 30-year low, soccer took a step back this year, and track continues to have problems. Basketball is the big fish in the pond but it's not the only thing which needs Georgetown's attention.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 21, 2016 8:29:20 GMT -5
Apples and oranges, my friend. Agreed, but the decline in Georgetown's men's sports across the board is a point of concern. Baseball continues to struggle, football is not making headway, lacrosse is at a 30-year low, soccer took a step back this year, and track continues to have problems. Basketball is the big fish in the pond but it's not the only thing which needs Georgetown's attention. I cannot intelligently speak on the other sports, but Soccer will be just fine as long as Coach Wiese is in place. They sent 6 players to MLS clubs off last year's team including their two best attack players and their entire back line. Growing pains this year were inevitable.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Oct 21, 2016 13:32:40 GMT -5
Track is still and will be a niche program - XC and middle distance running. There has been pretty good success in the XC program - women with an NCAA championship and several top 10 finishes, men were 10th last year and were set to improve this year except for the injuries to key runners (still might be possible to finish top 10 this year too). The women have suffered injuries this year too, so that might keep them out of the XC NCAAs for the first time in a while. In track the men have had four men under 4 minutes in the mile for the past two years, and this year they may have as many as six or seven under four. The women's middle distance runners will also be good; I am not sure if they can duplicate their DMR success of last year.
Stability in the coaching ranks is still a bit of a problem; however Brandon Bonsey and Julie Culley seem to be good coaches, and their future looks bright.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 21, 2016 13:56:32 GMT -5
Agreed, but the decline in Georgetown's men's sports across the board is a point of concern. Baseball continues to struggle, football is not making headway, lacrosse is at a 30-year low, soccer took a step back this year, and track continues to have problems. Basketball is the big fish in the pond but it's not the only thing which needs Georgetown's attention. I cannot intelligently speak on the other sports, but Soccer will be just fine as long as Coach Wiese is in place. They sent 6 players to MLS clubs off last year's team including their two best attack players and their entire back line. Growing pains this year were inevitable. Stop it. That does not fit the narrative.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Oct 22, 2016 11:42:59 GMT -5
Men's golf and tennis are both much better now than they have been in the past two decades. Even better on the women's side. The women might win the Big East in both.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Oct 22, 2016 11:47:30 GMT -5
And can we change the title of this thread. There's no more slouching, they are already there. The only recent BC highlight I can remember is of the basketball player being interviewed after going winless in the ACC.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 11, 2016 8:03:30 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Dec 11, 2016 8:44:45 GMT -5
Let's look at this objectively. BC need a steep, hard climb to even approach irrelevance.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 11, 2016 10:15:46 GMT -5
Every time I see an update to this thread I'm reminded that BC still fields a men's BB team. I usually forget again about 10 minutes later.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 13, 2016 0:18:07 GMT -5
They were on Fox Sports 1 tonight, playing Auburn at MSG as part of yet another random matchup of teams at neutral venues that result in largely empty arenas. BC didn't look terrible and ended up winning on a last-second shot, although Auburn is pretty bad themselves. The talent level just did not seem to be there for the Eagles.
One irony: they showed a short clip of the BC coach dutifully trying to talk up the program, and most of it ended up being about the Big East and all of their great accomplishments (ahem) back when they were members. Oops.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 13, 2016 1:00:51 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 21, 2017 7:07:50 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 21, 2017 9:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by reformation on Feb 21, 2017 15:55:24 GMT -5
At least someone was held accountable for their performance.
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 21, 2017 18:41:16 GMT -5
Interesting take on BC's inability to compete in the ACC unless it modifies its admissions criteria for recruited athletes. Is that "required" trade-off acceptable at Georgetown? That's a point that I believe is ignored on this board by some of the more strident posters.
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Post by reformation on Feb 21, 2017 20:42:24 GMT -5
It seems that most schools probably incl gtown make whatever academic accommodations necessary to compete in sports they really care about--for gtwn that would include ball, soccer, lax, track. BC would probably include hockey, fball not sure what else.
Pretty much all academically oriented schools seem imply that they don't make the same academic accommodations as others. I'm sure Princeton would make a bigger academic accomodation for crew and stanford for football than gtown would for either of those two sports. Similarly I'd bet that gtown has equal or lower standards than either of those schools for men's bball for sure or maybe even a sport like men's soccer, e.g. (not certain re the soccer ex but I would not be surprised if its true)
I'd bet some schools in the ACC have similar or better std vs BC and certainly some are lower--I doubt BC stands out as the article implies.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 20, 2017 13:16:42 GMT -5
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