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Post by professorhoya on Jul 5, 2015 23:39:19 GMT -5
Whittington looked really good on defense and rebounding vs Brooklyn. Very active. No offense though other than in transition.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 6, 2015 18:54:49 GMT -5
With Kobe taking 50 shots a game, Roy won't see the ball unless he grabs rebounds. Kobe will only play 20-30 games, so that shouldn't matter. And he'll probably miss 40 shots a game, so Roy will have a chance to improve on his offensive rebounding.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 6, 2015 19:06:59 GMT -5
Quite annoying hearing Roy to LA being described as the Lakers "seventh choice" and a one year stopgap. WIsh I was optimistic this will be good for him. Yeah, I saw that too, and that may be a bit of an exaggeration, but there's no question that the Lakers would have preferred Aldridge, the other Hoya, or Cousins (but weren't going to trade their entire young nucleus for him). Roy is going to have to play better, but if he does, perhaps he'll have found a new home. Somewhat off topic, but I had to laugh listening to Mychael Thompson talk about how stupid all the free agents are for spurning the Lakers when they have such a strong young nucleus (consisting of three players who have basically played a total of 1/2 a season in the NBA). Now maybe if those young players play well this year and Kobe doesn't screw them up by insisting on taking every shot, next year's free agents will see that LA is a destination worth considering, particularly if Kobe retires. One thing I'm certain of is that unless injuries tear them up again, the Lakers will be considerably better than last year. Not playoffs better (no way in the West), but certainly better. I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of Roy.
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 6, 2015 19:49:15 GMT -5
Trawick dnp
Whit played a little bit looked good. First guy off bench.
Josh smith came in late 3rd quarter and dominated. Unstoppable in post, a lot of tip offensive rebounds, and nice pass to the cutter. Commentators kept praising his play.
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Post by matersammich on Jul 6, 2015 19:53:40 GMT -5
Trawick dnp Whit played a little bit looked good. First guy off bench. Josh smith came in late 3rd quarter and dominated. Unstoppable in post, a lot of tip offensive rebounds, and nice pass to the cutter. Commentators kept praising his play. Sorry to hear Trawick was a dnp. I'm sure we're all rooting for him. Glad to hear Josh did well. Maybe the pro game will suit him well enough to make a squad.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 7, 2015 10:10:37 GMT -5
Trawick dnp Whit played a little bit looked good. First guy off bench. Josh smith came in late 3rd quarter and dominated. Unstoppable in post, a lot of tip offensive rebounds, and nice pass to the cutter. Commentators kept praising his play. Sorry to hear Trawick was a dnp. I'm sure we're all rooting for him. Glad to hear Josh did well. Maybe the pro game will suit him well enough to make a squad. Would probably be the pro $$$ that would suit him - enough to get and stay in shape. Hoping the young man can make it work.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 7, 2015 11:00:09 GMT -5
I disagree. Both could stick on the end of a bench. We will have to agree to disagree. Can you imagine josh trying to guard an NBA center? I would be thrilled if you turn out to be right I can imagine him playing 10-12 minutes a night, going up against the opposing team's second/third string big man.
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 7, 2015 11:25:15 GMT -5
"Heat bench cheering on Joshua Smith as he earns a trip to the free throw line. " (v/ video):
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 7, 2015 11:31:30 GMT -5
He looks good...I wonder if they use up to date measurements for the rosters if they're old?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 11:45:43 GMT -5
www.48minutesofhell.com/jaren-jackson-helped-create-the-spurs-role-player-moldBut this wasn’t always the case. There was a time when the Spurs role player predictably shrank away from such moments. Back when the offseason finds were Carl Herrera and Charles Smith, and Vinny Del Negro was desperately trying to keep up with Jeff Hornacek. It took Popovich some time to form the Three-and-D role player archetype that went on to produce multiple championships. At the ground floor, changing perceptions with a quick release, and a shake of his head, was journeyman Jaren Jackson. Jackson is best remembered — for those that remember him — for shutting down the historic Los Angeles Forum with 22 and 20-point performances. The reserve shooting guard punctuated the Spurs sweep with nail-in-the-coffin-three-pointers and a head shaking celebration that was mimicked by impressionable young fans around San Antonio playgrounds (okay, so maybe just by me). And while Jackson didn’t hit the biggest shots, and he wasn’t the biggest story, he was a new story — one that has become incorporated into Spurs lore and changed our expectations of the likes of the Danny Greens and Garrett Temples that make their way through San Antonio and Austin. As the Spurs welcomed Tim Duncan with the no. 1 pick in the NBA draft, Jaren Jackson was coming off another one-year contract, this time with the Washington Bullets, looking for his next job. Looking for a training camp invite, Jackson played for the Spurs summer league squad. The Spurs, he figured, were a perfect opportunity for a player like him. “It was a situation where they had two big guys I could complement and just be a role player — play aggressive on defense, and Tim and David were going to find me shots,” Jackson said. “It’s very attractive when it comes to guard play; I was just excited to compete.” Jackson caught the attention of Popovich and his staff, earning a training camp invite and a make good contract. And while eventually he carved out a permanent spot in the rotation, averaging a career-high 27 minutes, it was a long process. “I think then he was just trying to figure out who I was, what my strengths were, and how to best complement David and Tim,” Jackson said. “My only objective was not to give him a reason to let me go. I did that by understanding the schemes, where to be on the floor, show him that I understood everything expected of me. “At the same time, I was competing against other players that wanted the spot. There wasn’t too much communication, but I think [Popovich] respected the fact that I understood the game and competed.” The Spurs team Jackson joined, as he pointed out during our interview, was filled with sharp, intelligent basketball minds — Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro, Chuck Person, and Monty Williams have all gone on to coach in the NBA, Jackson currently coaches in the NBL in Canada. But future coaching acumen isn’t the only trait shared. They all had, as Popovich likes to state, “gotten over themselves.”
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Post by matersammich on Jul 7, 2015 12:28:19 GMT -5
Sorry to hear Trawick was a dnp. I'm sure we're all rooting for him. Glad to hear Josh did well. Maybe the pro game will suit him well enough to make a squad. Would probably be the pro $$$ that would suit him - enough to get and stay in shape. Hoping the young man can make it work. This is also known as the Andre Drummond effect.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 10:30:35 GMT -5
We will have to agree to disagree. Can you imagine josh trying to guard an NBA center? I would be thrilled if you turn out to be right I can imagine him playing 10-12 minutes a night, going up against the opposing team's second/third string big man. My guess that he will turn up on the roster of a D-league team. The question I have is, will he ever be able to guard a mobile NBA type center. As I stated before, no one would be happier if you turn out to be right and he lands on an NBA bench. I just don't see it happening.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 8, 2015 10:36:49 GMT -5
I can imagine him playing 10-12 minutes a night, going up against the opposing team's second/third string big man. My guess that he will turn up on the roster of a D-league team. The question I have is, will he ever be able to guard a mobile NBA type center. As I stated before, no one would be happier if you turn out to be right and he lands on an NBA bench. I just don't see it happening. I think you're overestimating the number of quality NBA centers there are.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 8, 2015 12:17:45 GMT -5
I can imagine him playing 10-12 minutes a night, going up against the opposing team's second/third string big man. My guess that he will turn up on the roster of a D-league team. The question I have is, will he ever be able to guard a mobile NBA type center. On the other hand, if Josh gets stonger, will those same mobile centers be able to stop him on offense one on one.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 8, 2015 13:15:01 GMT -5
I think it will always depend on whether Josh is motivated enough to get in good enough shape to play minutes at that level. Not to start an argument about comparisons - but similar to Mike Sweetney's weight problems that ultimately cost him his NBA career.
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Post by beenaround on Jul 8, 2015 14:05:01 GMT -5
www.48minutesofhell.com/jaren-jackson-helped-create-the-spurs-role-player-moldBut this wasn’t always the case. There was a time when the Spurs role player predictably shrank away from such moments. Back when the offseason finds were Carl Herrera and Charles Smith, and Vinny Del Negro was desperately trying to keep up with Jeff Hornacek. It took Popovich some time to form the Three-and-D role player archetype that went on to produce multiple championships. At the ground floor, changing perceptions with a quick release, and a shake of his head, was journeyman Jaren Jackson. Jackson is best remembered — for those that remember him — for shutting down the historic Los Angeles Forum with 22 and 20-point performances. The reserve shooting guard punctuated the Spurs sweep with nail-in-the-coffin-three-pointers and a head shaking celebration that was mimicked by impressionable young fans around San Antonio playgrounds (okay, so maybe just by me). And while Jackson didn’t hit the biggest shots, and he wasn’t the biggest story, he was a new story — one that has become incorporated into Spurs lore and changed our expectations of the likes of the Danny Greens and Garrett Temples that make their way through San Antonio and Austin. As the Spurs welcomed Tim Duncan with the no. 1 pick in the NBA draft, Jaren Jackson was coming off another one-year contract, this time with the Washington Bullets, looking for his next job. Looking for a training camp invite, Jackson played for the Spurs summer league squad. The Spurs, he figured, were a perfect opportunity for a player like him. “It was a situation where they had two big guys I could complement and just be a role player — play aggressive on defense, and Tim and David were going to find me shots,” Jackson said. “It’s very attractive when it comes to guard play; I was just excited to compete.” Jackson caught the attention of Popovich and his staff, earning a training camp invite and a make good contract. And while eventually he carved out a permanent spot in the rotation, averaging a career-high 27 minutes, it was a long process. “I think then he was just trying to figure out who I was, what my strengths were, and how to best complement David and Tim,” Jackson said. “My only objective was not to give him a reason to let me go. I did that by understanding the schemes, where to be on the floor, show him that I understood everything expected of me. “At the same time, I was competing against other players that wanted the spot. There wasn’t too much communication, but I think [Popovich] respected the fact that I understood the game and competed.” The Spurs team Jackson joined, as he pointed out during our interview, was filled with sharp, intelligent basketball minds — Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro, Chuck Person, and Monty Williams have all gone on to coach in the NBA, Jackson currently coaches in the NBL in Canada. But future coaching acumen isn’t the only trait shared. They all had, as Popovich likes to state, “gotten over themselves.” Awesome article. Greatly appreciated.
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