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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 24, 2014 5:17:50 GMT -5
I know I am Hoya biased. But Chris looks to me a lot like Jameer Nelson, in terms of height,weight, build and most important....game. Nelson has started much of the past ten years, while Chris has gotten into three games. Perhaps Nelson is better,,but that much better? Not to sidetrack the topic too much, but why no jersey in McDonough for Chris, given that he's played some NBA games?
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 24, 2014 6:32:25 GMT -5
I know I am Hoya biased. But Chris looks to me a lot like Jameer Nelson, in terms of height,weight, build and most important....game. Nelson has started much of the past ten years, while Chris has gotten into three games. Perhaps Nelson is better,,but that much better? I agree. He was a top 5 pg coming out in a loaded class and I still think he's 2-deep material. Too bad I don't own a team...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 24, 2014 7:13:55 GMT -5
Not to sidetrack the topic too much, but why no jersey in McDonough for Chris, given that he's played some NBA games? And what about the nine alumni that played in the NBA before 1972?
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Post by Elvado on Jul 24, 2014 7:19:21 GMT -5
I know I am Hoya biased. But Chris looks to me a lot like Jameer Nelson, in terms of height,weight, build and most important....game. Nelson has started much of the past ten years, while Chris has gotten into three games. Perhaps Nelson is better,,but that much better? I am as Hoyacentric as anyone but having been a St Joe season ticket holder during the Nelson years, the answer is yes, Jameer is that much better.
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Post by beenaround on Jul 24, 2014 8:11:11 GMT -5
Appreciate the input. Have definitely not seen Nelson nearly as much you. Oh well. Maybe there's good reason why I never made it to the NBA as a GM!
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 24, 2014 8:26:20 GMT -5
I know I am Hoya biased. But Chris looks to me a lot like Jameer Nelson, in terms of height,weight, build and most important....game. Nelson has started much of the past ten years, while Chris has gotten into three games. Perhaps Nelson is better,,but that much better? I am as Hoyacentric as anyone but having been a St Joe season ticket holder during the Nelson years, the answer is yes, Jameer is that much better. In your opinion what does he bring that Chris lacks?
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Post by Elvado on Jul 24, 2014 8:40:13 GMT -5
Now nothing because he is in his 30s.
Then he was a better distributor, more consistent shooter and much better floor leader. Chris may have been a better athlete but Jameer was a better basketball player.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 24, 2014 11:29:23 GMT -5
Now nothing because he is in his 30s. Then he was a better distributor, more consistent shooter and much better floor leader. Chris may have been a better athlete but Jameer was a better basketball player. Thanks, I can see that. I do think Chris is an underrated distributor by virtue of his drive and dish game, especially baseline, that is not super common among guards these days. And I'd also point out that he was a pretty good floor leader, but it was often overshadowed by the fact that he played in a three guard set, but the drop off in the team's&m performance was pretty darn significant (a rare sight to see such a solid team drop off so much) after he broke his hand in the Cinci game. I'm not contesting your points I'm simply trying to figure out how he hasn't gotten a bigger shot yet. Maybe teams are scared of the MS? Or his size? His strength and quick first-step helps to alleviate a lot of those concerns, but I guess not completely. My guess is the biggest concern must be the drop off from his midrange jumper to when he extends it past the 3pt line.
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Post by beenaround on Jul 24, 2014 12:20:46 GMT -5
Rock...I'm with you. I concede that Nelson is a better player than Chris. But it doesn't seem to be so great a difference that one guy was a starter for many years, while the other lasted three games. There are plenty of other guards we could compare CW to..I just always felt Chris reminded me of Nelson, because of their builds and lacking the crazy hops, of say a bust like Johnny Flynn.
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Post by Elvado on Jul 24, 2014 12:32:27 GMT -5
Let me start by saying I loved Chris Wright as a Hoya. And all of the strengths of his game are similar to the strength of Nelson's game. And yes, they cut a similar profile.
That said, there body of work on college is not comparable, not even close.
I believe Chris deserves a shot to play and I am sure the MS is making teams think twice or even three times about signing him.
Let us not forget that Nelson was national player of the year.
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Post by beenaround on Jul 24, 2014 12:40:34 GMT -5
Let me start by saying I loved Chris Wright as a Hoya. And all of the strengths of his game are similar to the strength of Nelson's game. And yes, they cut a similar profile. That said, there body of work on college is not comparable, not even close. I believe Chris deserves a shot to play and I am sure the MS is making teams think twice or even three times about signing him. Let us not forget that Nelson was national player of the year. Yep. Think we are in agreement.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 24, 2014 12:45:43 GMT -5
Let me start by saying I loved Chris Wright as a Hoya. And all of the strengths of his game are similar to the strength of Nelson's game. And yes, they cut a similar profile. That said, there body of work on college is not comparable, not even close. I believe Chris deserves a shot to play and I am sure the MS is making teams think twice or even three times about signing him. Let us not forget that Nelson was national player of the year. Agreed.
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Post by dreamhoya on Jul 24, 2014 13:59:45 GMT -5
I know I am Hoya biased. But Chris looks to me a lot like Jameer Nelson, in terms of height,weight, build and most important....game. Nelson has started much of the past ten years, while Chris has gotten into three games. Perhaps Nelson is better,,but that much better? The name Jameer Nelson kept coming into my head all summer league re: Chris. I think Jameer used his talent more and has more skill - he was so damn creative getting buckets and shooting out to 3. That being said, I'd take Chris on my team. His sense of timing and control is still a tad off, but he just needs work. He'd be a good backup to Wall. If the Wiz keep the guy they invited to summer league, Deonte Burton, then that'd be a bit odd as Chris has a similar skill set. Hurts him that he has MS unfortunately with teams (but he can play full go!).
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Post by dreamhoya on Jul 24, 2014 14:04:20 GMT -5
I agree with this whole heartedly. The Kings is not a better summer league team than the Wiz. My friend, you must have misread my post. The Kings from top to bottom had a far superior summer league team. No I didn't I was just interjecting my own feeling. I just felt that the Wiz played more of an organized set of offenses, while most other teams were sorta winging it to a degree. Also the role players seemed to at least know what the heck they were doing. And really, because the Kings had "pro" players doesn't mean anything. Would love to have seen if the Wiz didn't have that 3 OT game. But we'll never know
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 24, 2014 14:05:16 GMT -5
I know I am Hoya biased. But Chris looks to me a lot like Jameer Nelson, in terms of height,weight, build and most important....game. Nelson has started much of the past ten years, while Chris has gotten into three games. Perhaps Nelson is better,,but that much better? The name Jameer Nelson kept coming into my head all summer league re: Chris. I think Jameer used his talent more and has more skill - he was so damn creative getting buckets and shooting out to 3. That being said, I'd take Chris on my team. His sense of timing and control is still a tad off, but he just needs work. He'd be a good backup to Wall. If the Wiz keep the guy they invited to summer league, Deonte Burton, then that'd be a bit odd as Chris has a similar skill set. Hurts him that he has MS unfortunately with teams (but he can play full go!). You must have missed summer league. I had high hope for Burton, but he was absolutely doo-doo. I'll be surprised is he makes a roster in the next few years. Even mildly surprised at a camp invite.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 24, 2014 20:54:28 GMT -5
Let me start by saying I loved Chris Wright as a Hoya. And all of the strengths of his game are similar to the strength of Nelson's game. And yes, they cut a similar profile. That said, there body of work on college is not comparable, not even close. I believe Chris deserves a shot to play and I am sure the MS is making teams think twice or even three times about signing him. Let us not forget that Nelson was national player of the year. Agree wholeheartedly, Elvado. As Rock pointed out, Chris is really good, and I hope he gets a shot to make a team. But Jameer was the real deal. Loved him in college. I was hoping New Orleans would take him the year he came out. Instead we took J.R. Smith, whom I have never liked. Jameer was great, and so much fun to watch.
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Post by dreamhoya on Jul 26, 2014 16:08:12 GMT -5
The name Jameer Nelson kept coming into my head all summer league re: Chris. I think Jameer used his talent more and has more skill - he was so damn creative getting buckets and shooting out to 3. That being said, I'd take Chris on my team. His sense of timing and control is still a tad off, but he just needs work. He'd be a good backup to Wall. If the Wiz keep the guy they invited to summer league, Deonte Burton, then that'd be a bit odd as Chris has a similar skill set. Hurts him that he has MS unfortunately with teams (but he can play full go!). You must have missed summer league. I had high hope for Burton, but he was absolutely doo-doo. I'll be surprised is he makes a roster in the next few years. Even mildly surprised at a camp invite. That's what I was saying. Burton showed NOTHING during summer league. If the Wiz kept that guy around then all I can do is shake my head. Chris would be a better option.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 26, 2014 18:06:56 GMT -5
You must have missed summer league. I had high hope for Burton, but he was absolutely doo-doo. I'll be surprised is he makes a roster in the next few years. Even mildly surprised at a camp invite. That's what I was saying. Burton showed NOTHING during summer league. If the Wiz kept that guy around then all I can do is shake my head. Chris would be a better option. Yeah I was just saying it's not even close to being in the realm of possibilities
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jul 28, 2014 13:38:11 GMT -5
Huh?
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Post by CaliHoya on Jul 28, 2014 13:49:04 GMT -5
So...anyone have any insights as to why there has been no movement with Greg Monroe? Seems like he must be really disappointed that nobody offered close to a max deal. I wonder where he goes from here - a 1-year deal with another team that Detroit will match (but at least it will be higher than the current 1-year option)?
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