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Post by Locker on Nov 23, 2011 20:07:41 GMT -5
I sense III is not in love with Starks Starks was in foul trouble, as was Clark. It would have been dumb to play them together with 4 fouls each, especially given the penetration abilities of the Memphis guards. III made the right tactical move in playing Greg over Markel, but it does not reflect any lack of confidence in the latter's abilities. Great team victory. Go Hoyas. |
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Post by Hoyaholic on Nov 23, 2011 20:07:56 GMT -5
I sense III is not in love with Starks game. Clark seems to be our "pg" ala Jessie Sapp. I think you're reading too much into it. Starks has played great, but Clark is a proven quantity. Plus I doubt Sapp and JTIII exchange Christmas cards. |
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Post by sleepy on Nov 23, 2011 20:09:08 GMT -5
I sense III is not in love with Starks Starks was in foul trouble, as was Clark. It would have been dumb to play them together with 4 fouls each, especially given the penetration abilities of the Memphis guards. III made the right tactical move in playing Greg over Markel, but it does not reflect any lack of confidence in the latter's abilities. Great team victory. Go Hoyas. I think it had more to do with height than anything else. III wanted to take advantage of our size defensively and that he did. |
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 23, 2011 20:09:47 GMT -5
I sense III is not in love with Starks game. Clark seems to be our "pg" ala Jessie Sapp. I was thinking about Sapp when Jason was driving and I said to myself this was the type of play I was hoping to see Sapp demonstrate during his senior season. Of course Jesse often had a problem shooting from the outside and finishing on the inside. Not only is Jason better at both but so is Starks who played well overall against elite competition this week and proved that he is indeed Big East caliber. |
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Post by hoyadestroya on Nov 23, 2011 20:11:15 GMT -5
Great game and great win. What's funny is I can say there were many guys on that court I wouldn't mind with the ball right now down the stretch. I don't think I could say that much last year. And I'll never get tired to hear the announcers talk about the Hoyas length. Our D may need some work but we won't be getting killed on the boards like years past.
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Post by harlemhoya on Nov 23, 2011 20:13:52 GMT -5
I like what I saw from Starks this week. We might have a player.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Nov 23, 2011 20:14:00 GMT -5
I sense III is not in love with Starks game. Clark seems to be our "pg" ala Jessie Sapp. I was thinking about Sapp when Jason was driving and I said to myself this was the type of play I was hoping to see Sapp demonstrate during his senior season. Of course Jesse often had a problem shooting from the outside and finishing on the inside. Not only is Jason better at both but so is Starks who played well overall against elite competition this week and proved that he is indeed Big East caliber. He maybe Big East caliber, but I was told not 5 days ago that he was a below average Big East point guard. Sims is a below average Big East center as well. |
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Post by chep3 on Nov 23, 2011 20:19:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't get the handwringing about Starks's treatment. He got subbed out because he had a lot of fouls and we were better off using our length against guys like Jackson and Barton. Markel was having a tough time defending them to begin with, and would have become a sieve if he had to play with 4 fouls. I think Markel is much improved and looked really good throughout the week. He is a confident offensive player, has a good handle, and if he can keep shooting like this, he's going to asset. I think he was in double figures all 3 games. If he, Otto, and Henry can step up and be guys that get buckets, we'll be in good shape offensively.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Nov 23, 2011 20:20:20 GMT -5
There is NO way that come Monday we are not in the top 25. No way. I think the voters will recognize that they just missed the boat on ranking us. We are very solid. Very big win, contrary to what someone suggested. Any win for a young team over a quality program is a BIG win, regardless of what month it is in. PERIOD.
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Post by deacon on Nov 23, 2011 20:20:31 GMT -5
JTIII loves Markel ... loves him. It was just a matter of foul trouble and matchups.
Games in November don't mean much in the big picture, but the confidence with which this team is playing with and the composure to eke out a victory like this can't be overstated, regardless when it happens. If anything, it looks good on a tourney resume, and that's never a bad thing.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 23, 2011 20:28:49 GMT -5
There is NO way that come Monday we are not in the top 25. No way. I think the voters will recognize that they just missed the boat on ranking us. We are very solid. Very big win, contrary to what someone suggested. Any win for a young team over a quality program is a BIG win, regardless of what month it is in. PERIOD. 2009 we beat the #1 Uconn team at Uconn on January first, that was a "big win" that really meant a lot towards how that season ended. Oh wait... You can celebrate all the win's you want in Novemeber, December and January, but those wins mean very little in March. We've done our fair share of celebrating in the wrong months the past few years, I hope I won't have to point to this game as an example of reasons not to celebrate in November come March. |
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Post by harlemhoya on Nov 23, 2011 20:30:40 GMT -5
There is NO way that come Monday we are not in the top 25. No way. I think the voters will recognize that they just missed the boat on ranking us. We are very solid. Very big win, contrary to what someone suggested. Any win for a young team over a quality program is a BIG win, regardless of what month it is in. PERIOD. 2009 we beat the #1 Uconn team at Uconn on January first, that was a "big win" that really meant a lot towards how that season ended. Oh wait... You can celebrate all the win's you want in Novemeber, December and January, but those wins mean very little in March. We've done our fair share of celebrating in the wrong months the past few years, I hope I won't have to point to this game as an example of reasons not to celebrate in November come March. great post Sleepy |
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 23, 2011 20:40:12 GMT -5
There is NO way that come Monday we are not in the top 25. No way. I think the voters will recognize that they just missed the boat on ranking us. We are very solid. Very big win, contrary to what someone suggested. Any win for a young team over a quality program is a BIG win, regardless of what month it is in. PERIOD. 2009 we beat the #1 Uconn team at Uconn on January first, that was a "big win" that really meant a lot towards how that season ended. Oh wait... You can celebrate all the win's you want in Novemeber, December and January, but those wins mean very little in March. We've done our fair share of celebrating in the wrong months the past few years, I hope I won't have to point to this game as an example of reasons not to celebrate in November come March. I feel the same way. After last season's end I came to the conclusion that I was tired of the Hoyas being a top ten team (in terms of wins) from November through January. That being said I still prefer a victory over Memphis today than a loss. And it helps Gtown's RPI in case the Hoyas need it to make it into the NCAA tournament. And before I forget....eat it, Doug Gottlieb! All tournament look he has taken shots at the Hoyas. The praise always went to the other team or, if that team wasn't beating the Hoyas handedly, he would criticize the other squad rather than give Georgetown credit. "Memphis' defense is the worst of all time because the Tigers gave up 47 points to the Hoyas in a half, blah, blah, blah". Whatever, dude. |
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Post by centercourt400s on Nov 23, 2011 20:40:59 GMT -5
Sleepy, jeez don't be such a downer. This is sports and we are sports fans. When our team wins we get excited... regardless of the time of year. Your logic is akin to saying you shouldn't cheer a basket made in the 1st half of a game because it really isn't important until the last 10 min. I don't buy it. Every win makes up a season just like every basket makes up a win. Every win should be celebrated.
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Post by Bay99 on Nov 23, 2011 20:41:44 GMT -5
Henry Sims!
Really like how this young team carries itself on the court. Could have folded up when the calls went south at the end of regulation (that OB call was just terrible). Kept cool and got a really, really good OT win. Go Hoyas!
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Post by mapei on Nov 23, 2011 20:44:21 GMT -5
I have a different approach to watching basketball than I sense Sleepy and Harlem have. I don't just evaluate everything in terms of the finish, more on the enjoyment I have watching the team in each game. Especially this year when, realistically, low expectations are in order. I'm not saying your POV is wrong, Harlem and Sleepy, it's just different from mine. I'll worry about March in March.
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Post by TC on Nov 23, 2011 20:47:56 GMT -5
2009 we beat the #1 Uconn team at Uconn on January first, that was a "big win" that really meant a lot towards how that season ended. Oh wait... You can celebrate all the win's you want in Novemeber, December and January, but those wins mean very little in March. Not winning and not making the Top 25 sure doesn't help in March. |
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Post by Bay99 on Nov 23, 2011 20:49:24 GMT -5
Less important postscript: Agree with general take that Memphis is flawed and/or not the #8 team in the country, but that's a talented squad. Would be surprised if they don't win Conference USA, for what that's worth. After waatching a good bit of the Maui tourney, I think their biggest flaw is Pastner. I don't see any semblance of a game-plan or in-game adjustments--just a hope that a group of talented athletes will somehow outplay the other team. Which is probably a sound approach in Conference USA, but not going to get you far beyond that.
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Post by Locker on Nov 23, 2011 20:49:55 GMT -5
Wooooohooooo!!!!!!
Shockingly well played game by the Hoyas. Super fun.
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Post by deacon on Nov 23, 2011 20:50:21 GMT -5
2009 we beat the #1 Uconn team at Uconn on January first, that was a "big win" that really meant a lot towards how that season ended. Oh wait... You can celebrate all the win's you want in Novemeber, December and January, but those wins mean very little in March. We've done our fair share of celebrating in the wrong months the past few years, I hope I won't have to point to this game as an example of reasons not to celebrate in November come March. I feel the same way. After last season's end I came to the conclusion that I was tired of the Hoyas being a top ten team (in terms of wins) from November through January. That being said I still prefer a victory over Memphis today than a loss. And it helps Gtown's RPI in case the Hoyas need it to make it into the NCAA tournament. And before I forget....eat it, Doug Gottlieb! All tournament look he has taken shots at the Hoyas. The praise always went to the other team or, if that team wasn't beating the Hoyas handedly, he would criticize the other squad rather than give Georgetown credit. "Memphis' defense is the worst of all time because the Tigers gave up 47 points to the Hoyas in a half, blah, blah, blah". Whatever, dude. He doesn't like Georgetown. It's that simple, trust me. Nothing personal, it's how we're coached. |
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