DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 13, 2012 10:53:17 GMT -5
I've long since given up on any relevance from the NYTimes sports section, which is composed of well paid but otherwise irrelevant reporters that must play to a readership that is perceived as effete, somewhat irreligious, and largely disconnected from the world of sports. including the older audience who thinks "Roll Tide" refers to something going on at the beach, or who still think they have Friday night boxing at the Garden.
Since sports is so limited in Manhattan circles beyoind the Yankees, the Giants, and an occasional reference to horse racing, the Times' sports page is a myopic lens to a culture most of its readers will never encounter, much less understand, and its content toes the line.
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 13, 2012 11:03:22 GMT -5
Pierce is a fool, but I'm a bit surprised at his rambling piece (which is nominally about the Big East but then turns out to be a nostalgia trip about Rick Pitino) given that he's a Marquette grad who should have a stake in the future conference.
But get used to this "Syracuse is the Big East" nonsense. Connecticut, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, and Villanova are just as much Big East as the Orange, and its going to be quite funny when the conference (in basketball) keeps right on rolling without them.
The only concern is that ESPN will probably go all-in on the ACC, so start telling your friends now about this great new network called the NBC Sports Network, aka Big East TV.
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thebin
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Post by thebin on Mar 13, 2012 11:12:12 GMT -5
Pierce is a fool, but I'm a bit surprised at his rambling piece (which is nominally about the Big East but then turns out to be a nostalgia trip about Rick Pitino) given that he's a Marquette grad who should have a stake in the future conference. But get used to this "Syracuse is the Big East" nonsense. Connecticut, Georgetown, St. Johns, Seton Hall, and Villanova are just as much Big East as the Orange, and its going to be quite funny when the conference (in basketball) keeps right on rolling without them. The only concern is that ESPN will probably go all-in on the ACC, so start telling your friends now about this great new network called the NBC Sports Network, aka Big East TV. Thought the same- that the pivot from a high level Big East history to a very personal anecdote in the last few paragraphs was jarring and sloppy.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Mar 13, 2012 13:25:14 GMT -5
I've long since given up on any relevance from the NYTimes sports section, which is composed of well paid but otherwise irrelevant reporters that must play to a readership that is perceived as effete, somewhat irreligious, and largely disconnected from the world of sports. including the older audience who thinks "Roll Tide" refers to something going on at the beach, or who still think they have Friday night boxing at the Garden. Since sports is so limited in Manhattan circles beyoind the Yankees, the Giants, and an occasional reference to horse racing, the Times' sports page is a myopic lens to a culture most of its readers will never encounter, much less understand, and its content toes the line. As a Sunday NYT subscriber who enjoyed the Nerlens Noel article, I never realized I was so effete and irreligious. In BE expansion news, Matt Doherty has been fired at SMU: www.statesman.com/news/texas/smu-fires-matt-doherty-after-6-seasons-2234877.html
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BigmanU
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Post by BigmanU on Apr 5, 2012 9:33:52 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 5, 2012 10:09:59 GMT -5
Next year Basketball will be all the current teams except WV. The following year it will be All the current teams except WV, Cuse, Pitt, but with Temple, Memphis, UCF, SMU, Houston
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 5, 2012 10:28:24 GMT -5
not bad additions nope the phoenix has arisen and the big east survives again. Some props to those responsible for this including our pres Jack. go hoyas GO BIG EAST .
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BigmanU
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Post by BigmanU on Apr 5, 2012 13:21:06 GMT -5
Next year Basketball will be all the current teams except WV. The following year it will be All the current teams except WV, Cuse, Pitt, but with Temple, Memphis, UCF, SMU, Houston Thank You for your help. Off the top of my head there should not be a substantial drop off with the additions of just Temple, Memphis & Houston (great recruiting class). UCF (Jordan's son?) & SMU I'm not really familiar with.
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biggmanu
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Post by biggmanu on Apr 5, 2012 13:33:42 GMT -5
Jeff Jordan left UCF
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superan
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Post by superan on Apr 5, 2012 13:41:16 GMT -5
Yeah, UCF and SMU are going to be the new Depaul's.
I really don't mind replacing Pitt and WVU with Temple and Memphis.
Syracuse can die 1000 horrible deaths.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 5, 2012 13:55:22 GMT -5
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 5, 2012 14:02:05 GMT -5
Yeah, UCF and SMU are going to be the new Depaul's. I really don't mind replacing Pitt and WVU with Temple and Memphis. Syracuse can die 1000 horrible deaths. Recall, though, that the first name people used to throw out in that group ("new Depauls") was USF, yet over the last few years they creeped up toward respectability and this year they finished tied for 4th in the league and won a couple of games in the dance. They're certainly not a joke like they were 5 or 6 years ago. I see no reason why UCF and SMU can't follow the same path. None of them really have tradition to build on but all are fairly well funded and in states with good recruiting bases. With the right coach and a few years to build it up, they may not turn into Syracuse but there's no reason they can't be very respectable and in the hunt for a tourney bid every year.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on Apr 5, 2012 15:27:11 GMT -5
I am excited for UMemphis in Big East. Will get a chance to see Hoyas and others in close proximity to Nashville..... I am sure Memphis fans look forward to return of the Louisville rivary. I would be disappointed if Memphis would not continue the UTenn and Arkansas games. It would be great if Big East divide into north and south divisions with Georgetown, Memphis, Louisville and Fla schools in the south. Go Hoyas!!! Go Bigt East!!!
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Apr 5, 2012 15:45:00 GMT -5
also helps hoyas in their pursuit of memphians nick king and jonathan williams for '13.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on Apr 5, 2012 16:05:19 GMT -5
id.... Memphis and West Tennessee basketball is better than ever. Not only would JTIII compete with Pastner but with Martin (UT) and Anderson (Ark).
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Apr 5, 2012 16:19:06 GMT -5
nash,
have you seen either or both play?
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 5, 2012 16:32:50 GMT -5
It would be great if Big East divide into north and south divisions with Georgetown, Memphis, Louisville and Fla schools in the south. Go Hoyas!!! Go Bigt East!!! You are in Nashville, so I understand your sentiment. I, however, would much prefer us to play in a division with 'Nova, SJU, Marquette, Temple, and YouCon than those schools likely to be in a southern division.
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 6, 2012 10:21:04 GMT -5
It would be great if Big East divide into north and south divisions with Georgetown, Memphis, Louisville and Fla schools in the south. Go Hoyas!!! Go Bigt East!!! You are in Nashville, so I understand your sentiment. I, however, would much prefer us to play in a division with 'Nova, SJU, Marquette, Temple, and YouCon than those schools likely to be in a southern division. Uh oh, the whole north vs south argument...didn't the university get divided by this issue a hundred-fifty years ago?
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KirbyKeger
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Post by KirbyKeger on Apr 14, 2012 11:13:21 GMT -5
Larry Brown is interviewing for the SMU job. That could be a great thing for the conference.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 14, 2012 13:49:01 GMT -5
larry brown VERY interesting go hoyas GO BIG EAST ARISEN YES . with THREE hoyas now as big east presidents hmmmmm more than JUST bball yes
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