CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Mar 7, 2012 16:57:38 GMT -5
Temple is a great add, along with Memphis. Pretty happy right now.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 7, 2012 17:11:32 GMT -5
Not too shabby for a cobbled together basketball conference. ;D
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Post by dailey247 on Mar 7, 2012 20:46:08 GMT -5
How the hell is an 18 team Big East Tournament going to work? You can't have 6 games in one day at the Garden. Maybe 3 in Philly and 3 in the Meadowlands on Tuesday?
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Post by TigerHoya on Mar 7, 2012 21:08:33 GMT -5
How the hell is an 18 team Big East Tournament going to work? You can't have 6 games in one day at the Garden. Maybe 3 in Philly and 3 in the Meadowlands on Tuesday? Back to a system where not every team plays in the tourney maybe.
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sead43
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Post by sead43 on Mar 7, 2012 22:26:07 GMT -5
what's the reaction among Villanova fans? in the press conference they went out of their way to emphasize that Nova was fully behind, even taking a leadership role in, the Temple addition...
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 7, 2012 22:29:19 GMT -5
ok finally the headline i was looking for better for bball yup and gee west va and pitt LOST in nyc hmmmmmmmm you know now if CUSE loses hmmmmm bye bye see you all later GO HOYAS THE PHOENIX HAS ARISEN yup go hoyas go big east . we will see
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 8, 2012 9:54:13 GMT -5
what's the reaction among Villanova fans? in the press conference they went out of their way to emphasize that Nova was fully behind, even taking a leadership role in, the Temple addition... Hope it's true. Even if Nova wasn't leading, but just accepted the arrangement, kudos to them. This is a big move for the basketball side of the BE, and I appreciate Nova allowing it to go forward.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Mar 8, 2012 10:00:03 GMT -5
what's the reaction among Villanova fans? in the press conference they went out of their way to emphasize that Nova was fully behind, even taking a leadership role in, the Temple addition... Taking a leadership role from behind, where have we heard that before? Hopefully this addition to the conference turns out better than the Libya intervention.
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Post by sead43 on Mar 8, 2012 10:01:18 GMT -5
what's the reaction among Villanova fans? in the press conference they went out of their way to emphasize that Nova was fully behind, even taking a leadership role in, the Temple addition... Hope it's true. Even if Nova wasn't leading, but just accepted the arrangement, kudos to them. This is a big move for the basketball side of the BE, and I appreciate Nova allowing it to go forward. here is video of the press conference i was referring to: www.bigeast.org/BIGEASTTV/OnDemandFREE/TabId/367/VideoId/23546/BIG-EAST-Press-Conference-Temples-New-Membership.aspxpresident of villanova is on the dias and a large portion of the presser is devoted to the Temple-Villanova issue.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 12, 2012 22:08:30 GMT -5
Grantland: The Sad State of the Big East by Charles P. Pierce - www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7675694/watching-demise-once-mighty-basketball-super-conferenceAll weekend, there was about the tournament the slightly musty smell of encroaching obsolescence. There was a time, and not so long ago, when the Big East was a spotlit thing, playing its tournament in New York, its original membership constructed from schools with long basketball traditions and large eastern media markets. It made stars, like Pearl Washington at Syracuse, and it made people like Patrick Ewing who already were stars into superstars. This year, its championship game was a contest between two teams from the Ohio River basin.
And the game itself was a rock fight. Cincinnati scored 14 points in the first half and, while Madison Square Garden was properly filled, the whole atmosphere felt like someone had lifted a Midwest state high school championship game and dropped it into an NBA arena. It was a stone dropped down a deep well.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 13, 2012 0:11:31 GMT -5
How the hell is an 18 team Big East Tournament going to work? You can't have 6 games in one day at the Garden. Maybe 3 in Philly and 3 in the Meadowlands on Tuesday? www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive0511.htm#30As to Pierce's article above, it speaks to a general sense by the chattering class that the Big East Tournament surely won't be a draw without Syracuse. If any of the three regional teams could pick up the pace and start contending for games beyond Tuesday, they'd fill the place just like the orange clad folks do today. That will take some work, however. Since 2004, St. John's has had one Big East seeding higher than 12th and missed the tournament outright in 2004,06,and 08. Since 2005, Seton Hall has finished once in single digit seeds. Rutgers hasn't finished higher than 10th over that same period, has not won a quarterfinal game in 14 years, and has not made the NCAA's since Allen Iverson was in 9th grade. The people that will really miss Syracuse are the scalpers and the owners of the Blarney Stone bar.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 13, 2012 7:21:33 GMT -5
To be fair, UConn is another regional team that attracts a large number of fans and should still fill the place up with that agonizing "U-C-O-N-N-UCONN-UCONN-UCONN." For so long as they remain in the conference, at any rate. 'Nova also travels pretty well - it just happens that this was a down year. I expect that Temple will also travel well.
While I wasn't at the Garden and can't speak to the atmosphere, I watched the entire tourney and very much enjoyed it. I actually think that the relatively success of Marquette, Louisville, and Cincy this year is a plus, not a minus. An affirmation that even without Syracuse and Pitt, we still have a very "deep bench" when it comes to talent.
I do agree, however, that St. Johns, at a minimum, really needs to get back to where it was and where it could be. A consistently good Villanova team also helps. If Syracuse is synonymous with "Big East" then Georgetown, St. Johns, and Villanova are in the thesaurus as well as options 2, 3, and 4.
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Post by thebin on Mar 13, 2012 8:09:16 GMT -5
Have you guys ever seen Will Rhoden on The Sports Reporters? My wife and I always get excited when he is on to see what he will babble. The guy literally can't complete a sentence or a thought and doesn't know anything about actual sports- only about nebulous concepts that are difficult to disprove with facts such as "legacies" and "rings.". I'm calling ghost writer. I swear anytime anyone starts talking about championship rings it is a tip off that they don't actually know anything about X's and O's sports and they are killing time.
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Post by thebin on Mar 13, 2012 8:11:22 GMT -5
How the hell is an 18 team Big East Tournament going to work? You can't have 6 games in one day at the Garden. Maybe 3 in Philly and 3 in the Meadowlands on Tuesday? For the love of god do NOT stray one game from MSG until they lock us out. Simply don't invite 18 teams.
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Post by thebin on Mar 13, 2012 8:18:23 GMT -5
Pash is right; if Big East football had ever been any good, everything would have been fine. But they weren't. So they were all looking for a better deal. I think this is a little over-simplified even if it is largely true. Sure it was never very good but did it ever have a fighting chance of being on the same level as Big Ten or SEC football? I think you have to admit that the Big East always suffered from a perception problem (which we all know quickly becomes a real problem, especially to high school recruits and fans) because it was seen as a basketball-first association in a part of the country that didn't really do big time college football. Some of that was intractable as a matter of geography and culture and history. But others, like not inviting Penn State seems a bit self-inflicted.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 13, 2012 9:05:59 GMT -5
Have you guys ever seen Will Rhoden on The Sports Reporters? My wife and I always get excited when he is on to see what he will babble. The guy literally can't complete a sentence or a thought and doesn't know anything about actual sports- only about nebulous concepts that are difficult to disprove with facts such as "legacies" and "rings.". I'm calling ghost writer. I swear anytime anyone starts talking about championship rings it is a tip off that they don't actually know anything about X's and O's sports and they are killing time. Is it just me, or does the Times have the worst sports columnists?
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 13, 2012 9:16:29 GMT -5
It's not just you. Worst sports section of any major newspaper. It probably hasn't even occurred to the sports editor to thrust the Forde Yahoo story in Thamel's face and ask "How did you get scooped on this?"
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Post by thebin on Mar 13, 2012 9:22:24 GMT -5
It's not just you. Worst sports section of any major newspaper. It probably hasn't even occurred to the sports editor to thrust the Forde Yahoo story in Thamel's face and ask "How did you get scooped on this?" It's not just that the sports section is bad, almost intentionally so, but honestly in Rhoden's case when you watch him try to speak up on the Sports Reporters, you would be forgiven for thinking the guy isn't fully literate. I mean literally "literate" not just "sports literate." He doesn't speak in sentences, nevermind paragraphs. It is just half thoughts followed by pivots to new half thoughts until he runs out of steam. It actually makes for fun viewing. I'd feel bad but the guy is a journalist at the most prestigious friggen newspaper in the world. How on earth did they hire him? I understand when they hire an anti-white-male bigot like Selena Roberts that it sort of fits with the newspaper's ethos. They can expect her to for example smear wealthy duke lacrosse players AFTER they have been cleared of all crimes where as the normal journalists only did so before they were cleared- the NYT expects you to go the extra mile when snearing at a largely-white preppy sport. But at least she can speak English. Rhoden....not so much.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 13, 2012 9:36:44 GMT -5
Grantland: The Sad State of the Big East by Charles P. Pierce - www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7675694/watching-demise-once-mighty-basketball-super-conferenceAll weekend, there was about the tournament the slightly musty smell of encroaching obsolescence. There was a time, and not so long ago, when the Big East was a spotlit thing, playing its tournament in New York, its original membership constructed from schools with long basketball traditions and large eastern media markets. It made stars, like Pearl Washington at Syracuse, and it made people like Patrick Ewing who already were stars into superstars. This year, its championship game was a contest between two teams from the Ohio River basin.
And the game itself was a rock fight. Cincinnati scored 14 points in the first half and, while Madison Square Garden was properly filled, the whole atmosphere felt like someone had lifted a Midwest state high school championship game and dropped it into an NBA arena. It was a stone dropped down a deep well.Pierce sucks. He's an angry, bitter old man whose writing rarely consists of anything but cheap insults and complaints. He writes exactly like the kind of person who titles their book "Idiot America".
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 13, 2012 9:50:19 GMT -5
If Charles S. Pierce knew one of his progeny was slogging with Simmons, he'd be rolling over in his grave.
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