eb59
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Post by eb59 on Aug 5, 2011 23:24:01 GMT -5
Just curious, with all the effort that is put into discussions on this board about ways (large and small) to improve the game day experience and make Gtown FB something that that student body might want to get interested in supporting – does anyone think that even the slightest change will be made this season to improve things – even just a little bit?
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 7, 2011 19:27:04 GMT -5
I'm an optimist, but I really don't expect any changes. The MSF is one of the poorest game-day atmospheres out there and it is regrettable that the University continues to treat it as such.
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Post by hoyahopeful on Aug 8, 2011 13:44:11 GMT -5
Entering the "faint praise" category: It seems that the quality and selection of Georgetown clothing and souvenirs for sale at games has improved a little.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 8, 2011 15:50:07 GMT -5
I'm an optimist, but I really don't expect any changes. The MSF is one of the poorest game-day atmospheres out there and it is regrettable that the University continues to treat it as such. An excellent example of the "In for a penny, in for a pound" problem. We don't have (or don't think we have) a pound to spend on it, and there's a fear that spending a penny would raise expectations and demands. So, better to do nothing, or close to it. Anecdotally, when I was on the Hoya Blue board a couple of years ago, I investigated the possibility of having a big pre-game tailgate right next to the MSF. There would be no alcohol involved - just music and free food and drink and other stuff provided by Hoya Blue and other student groups, supported by Welcome Week and other SAC funds. It would be like SACFair - which is always well attended - combined with a pep rally. We'd get the cheerleaders out there to show their stuff, get the band out to play the fight song before leading everyone on a march into the stands. The best place to do something like this was, in my opinion, on the road between Kennedy and the MSF. Direct, line-of-sight proximity was key, or else people would wander back to their dorms or other destinations instead of going to the game, as happens with most of the Homecoming tailgate crowd. And since the team makes their dramatic approach to the field through the Snaxa Archway, it would all combine into a nice, big, loud atmosphere. Long story short, I was told that shutting down any part of any road on campus required direct orders from either Spiros Dimolitsas or Jack DeGioia himself. In other words, forget about it. We ultimately had a scaled-down version of the thing on Harbin patio, complete with loud, alumni-scandalizing rap music and giant inflatable Jack. Oh, and some random freshman and I ended up in a Harbin common room, furiously microwaving frozen taquitos. Good times. Nothing more came of it after that. Most of the students (read: freshmen) that did go to the game were run off by the 74 rushing yards on 42 attempts performance. We got pretty much no help from sports promotions or anyone else in McDonough, although Matt Bassuener said he emailed all of the players & parents telling them they should check it out. Of course, the Gridiron Club had their own, exclusive tailgate beforehand, so no reason for any of them to come over and mix with the studentry. That might be something they do at Ole Miss or Vanderbilt or the like.
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Post by Ro on Aug 9, 2011 9:43:15 GMT -5
Did any of the HB board members ever attempt to reach out to anyone in the Gridiron Club in an effort to promote a larger event combining students and alumni?
Calling anything football and fan related that the Gridiron Club is invovled with "exclusive" is somewhat laughable. It is only exclusive in that those who are on the email contact list or a part of the Club get the heads up about an event. Anyone who is a supporter of Georgetown Football has always been welcome at any Gridiron Club gathering in any city at any time.
Is there any way to link up the people at Hoya Blue and someone within the Gridiron Club in an effort to help coordinate gameday events, both home and away? Perhaps we can build here with strength in numbers. Any pull or positive results the Alumni has had or can have with University planning can be combined with student promotion to create a larger event that would presumably get more of a University blessing because of the implied adult involvement of the Gridiron Club.
Just a thought. I don't really know how to implement it, but I would think that connecting people from Hoya Blue with the Gridiron Club is the natural start. If this has already been attempted and failed, I say give it another shot. If 2 independent groups have the same feelings and complaints about the gameday experience then they naturally should work together to remedy the situation.
What is the best way to contact someone within Hoya Blue?
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Post by vcjack on Aug 9, 2011 11:00:14 GMT -5
Did any of the HB board members ever attempt to reach out to anyone in the Gridiron Club in an effort to promote a larger event combining students and alumni? Calling anything football and fan related that the Gridiron Club is invovled with "exclusive" is somewhat laughable. It is only exclusive in that those who are on the email contact list or a part of the Club get the heads up about an event. Anyone who is a supporter of Georgetown Football has always been welcome at any Gridiron Club gathering in any city at any time. Is there any way to link up the people at Hoya Blue and someone within the Gridiron Club in an effort to help coordinate gameday events, both home and away? Perhaps we can build here with strength in numbers. Any pull or positive results the Alumni has had or can have with University planning can be combined with student promotion to create a larger event that would presumably get more of a University blessing because of the implied adult involvement of the Gridiron Club. Just a thought. I don't really know how to implement it, but I would think that connecting people from Hoya Blue with the Gridiron Club is the natural start. If this has already been attempted and failed, I say give it another shot. If 2 independent groups have the same feelings and complaints about the gameday experience then they naturally should work together to remedy the situation. What is the best way to contact someone within Hoya Blue? There were efforts during my two years but nothing ever came of them. The big sticking points were: Gridiron's refusal open up their purse to contribute to a combined event. The profound lack of enthusiasm on the part of HB for anything football. Now, I know nothing about the inner workings of the Gridiron Club but to my casual observation HB has become markedly more enthusiastic and energetic as a whole since the mopey cynics like myself left so there could be hope for the near term future.
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Post by eb59 on Aug 10, 2011 21:10:41 GMT -5
season tickets - a step in the right direction! store.cstv.com/store.cfm?dept...6&store_id=427Question: would it help the cause for the completion of the MSF if say all the readers of this board bought 2 season tickets for a total cost of $60 and Hoya Blue did the same and FB relatives and it sold out say half the seats for the 2500 MSF field even though they would be empty on game day. Would it make the administration take notice and consider investing in a real stadium or would they say Thanks for the cash and make no motion towards improvement and invest that cash into a new since building or something? Thoughts?
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Aug 11, 2011 11:02:10 GMT -5
season tickets - a step in the right direction! store.cstv.com/store.cfm?dept...6&store_id=427Question: would it help the cause for the completion of the MSF if say all the readers of this board bought 2 season tickets for a total cost of $60 and Hoya Blue did the same and FB relatives and it sold out say half the seats for the 2500 MSF field even though they would be empty on game day. Would it make the administration take notice and consider investing in a real stadium or would they say Thanks for the cash and make no motion towards improvement and invest that cash into a new since building or something? Thoughts? I suppose it depends on where the money ends up. I will buy a season ticket if the money will stay with the football program. If the proceeds from ticket sales go into a general fund, I'm less inclined to do so. Either way, I agree this is a positive development.
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Post by hoyahopeful on Aug 11, 2011 13:25:42 GMT -5
In my opinion all of these laudable ideas and efforts will be futile unless one thing happens...winning. The quality of the game day experience hinges on the performance of this team and this coaching staff. When this team begins to win (.500 would be wonderful), a sub-standard facility won't look so bad and quality tailgate functions will start to happen...almost on their own.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 11, 2011 13:42:02 GMT -5
In my opinion all of these laudable ideas and efforts will be futile unless one thing happens...winning. The quality of the game day experience hinges on the performance of this team and this coaching staff. When this team begins to win (.500 would be wonderful), a sub-standard facility won't look so bad and quality tailgate functions will start to happen...almost on their own. Where were all those tailgates when the Hoyas posted nine win seasons in 1998 and 1999? At some point, Georgetown has to take a public stand through facilities that it is committed to a better student (and fan) experience than it curently provides.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Aug 11, 2011 14:55:05 GMT -5
season tickets - a step in the right direction! store.cstv.com/store.cfm?dept...6&store_id=427Question: would it help the cause for the completion of the MSF if say all the readers of this board bought 2 season tickets for a total cost of $60 and Hoya Blue did the same and FB relatives and it sold out say half the seats for the 2500 MSF field even though they would be empty on game day. Would it make the administration take notice and consider investing in a real stadium or would they say Thanks for the cash and make no motion towards improvement and invest that cash into a new since building or something? Thoughts? I agree in large part with Austin and like the thought behind something like this proposal. However, I'd put the odds of this avoiding the Administration's rob Peter to pay Paul approach to athletics at about 10%.
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Post by derhoya on Aug 12, 2011 18:57:20 GMT -5
season tickets - a step in the right direction! store.cstv.com/store.cfm?dept...6&store_id=427Question: would it help the cause for the completion of the MSF if say all the readers of this board bought 2 season tickets for a total cost of $60 and Hoya Blue did the same and FB relatives and it sold out say half the seats for the 2500 MSF field even though they would be empty on game day. Would it make the administration take notice and consider investing in a real stadium or would they say Thanks for the cash and make no motion towards improvement and invest that cash into a new since building or something? Thoughts? I agree in large part with Austin and like the thought behind something like this proposal. However, I'd put the odds of this avoiding the Administration's rob Peter to pay Paul approach to athletics at about 10%. Wait... Amb... you actually know about something well enough that's done within McD to put odds to it? Holy smokes! Please share your sources!
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Post by hoyahopeful on Aug 15, 2011 12:58:04 GMT -5
In my opinion all of these laudable ideas and efforts will be futile unless one thing happens...winning. The quality of the game day experience hinges on the performance of this team and this coaching staff. When this team begins to win (.500 would be wonderful), a sub-standard facility won't look so bad and quality tailgate functions will start to happen...almost on their own. Where were all those tailgates when the Hoyas posted nine win seasons in 1998 and 1999? At some point, Georgetown has to take a public stand through facilities that it is committed to a better student (and fan) experience than it curently provides. You and I really don't disagree. I don't have any perspective about 1998 and 1999 other than a suspicion that the cache' of the schools Georgetown was playing did not excite the fans. Certainly there are many factors and lousy facilities are among them. But my experience is that winning can overcome a crummy environment far better than a beautiful setting can camouflage a horrible product on the field.
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Post by Ro on Aug 22, 2011 9:06:25 GMT -5
I sent an email to the general Hoya Blue mailbox about 2 weeks ago and haven't gotten any response. I imagine it is because people aren't on campus yet (although it was a gmail address). Does anyone know of a more direct way to contact someone there? Thanks.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Aug 22, 2011 9:16:22 GMT -5
The 2011-2012 Hoya Blue Board: President: Erin Claire VP: Larissa Garbade Treasurer: Shannon Shaw Events: Maria Lappas Foundation: McKenzie Kaubrys Promotions: Abby Greene Personnel: Bruce Thomas Communications: Adam Ramadan You can email people directly (although it won't show you their email addresses unless you have an active netID & password) using the GU directory at contact.georgetown.edu
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Aug 22, 2011 20:47:38 GMT -5
Where were all those tailgates when the Hoyas posted nine win seasons in 1998 and 1999? At some point, Georgetown has to take a public stand through facilities that it is committed to a better student (and fan) experience than it curently provides. You and I really don't disagree. I don't have any perspective about 1998 and 1999 other than a suspicion that the cache' of the schools Georgetown was playing did not excite the fans. Certainly there are many factors and lousy facilities are among them. But my experience is that winning can overcome a crummy environment far better than a beautiful setting can camouflage a horrible product on the field. I was at almost every game in 98 and 99, when we were winning. Crowds were small; we were out numbered by opposing fans on a consistent basis. 'Course, that walk up to Kehoe when people are hungover is a beast . Winning, gameday atmosphere (making it a "thing to do"), facilities ... it all goes hand-in-hand. The key is committing to it.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Aug 29, 2011 11:43:24 GMT -5
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