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Post by Problem of Dog on Nov 10, 2013 22:52:18 GMT -5
Just look at the tape and look at our staff; he'd be an impact player year 3/4. I really hope he comes. If we thought he'd be an impact player, we'd probably offer him. We have kids on our roster with scholarships who are long term projects with scholarships.
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 10, 2013 23:31:57 GMT -5
what year is he ... is there any chance hes coming. deke's daughter is here pat's daughter is here. reggies son is here. yup hoyas family but what year is he i am confused as usual and is there a chance hes coming. go hoyas go zo
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Post by CaliHoya on Nov 11, 2013 2:13:36 GMT -5
From the tape, he seems like he has the height, athleticism and defensive instincts to play on the high-major level. Not sure about the offensive skills, but that's something Georgetown is really good at teaching.
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Post by dreamhoya on Nov 11, 2013 6:38:32 GMT -5
That's what I'm saying Cali. He might be a late bloomer. Also offering him may be a non-issue if he's as close to the program as it would seem...but, we'll see.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 11, 2013 23:06:11 GMT -5
Seems to me that Trey will still walk on to the team in 2014, right? He may take some development, but I'd love to have him on board and see Zo in the stands more often. I also think he will develop into a real contributor over 4 years. Why would you think a walk on would develop into a real contributor over 4 years? This is even more intentionally baiting than your usual posts POD. Maybe because his dad is in the Georgetown HOF and is a soon-to-be NBA Hall of Famer? He's not his dad and no one is saying that. However, his dad has stated publicly that his son will be attending Georgetown. If you can get a kid with that size and that lineage and, presumably, basketball IQ as a walk-on somehow, how great would that be? That said, I hope Trey is good enough to earn a scholarship without considering his last name. If that's the case, all the better. In either case, I hope that Trey does attend Georgetown to play ball or not. You'd be hard-pressed to find a better ambassador for Georgetown than Alonzo. And I don't mean just Georgetown Basketball. He's the kind of person that makes the University look good. If he has a son that's anything like him just off the court, I hope admissions is after him.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Nov 12, 2013 1:17:36 GMT -5
Why would you think a walk on would develop into a real contributor over 4 years? This is even more intentionally baiting than your usual posts POD. Maybe because his dad is in the Georgetown HOF and is a soon-to-be NBA Hall of Famer? He's not his dad and no one is saying that. However, his dad has stated publicly that his son will be attending Georgetown. If you can get a kid with that size and that lineage and, presumably, basketball IQ as a walk-on somehow, how great would that be? That said, I hope Trey is good enough to earn a scholarship without considering his last name. If that's the case, all the better. In either case, I hope that Trey does attend Georgetown to play ball or not. You'd be hard-pressed to find a better ambassador for Georgetown than Alonzo. And I don't mean just Georgetown Basketball. He's the kind of person that makes the University look good. If he has a son that's anything like him just off the court, I hope admissions is after him. That's a whole lot of nothing related to his basketball ability. We have guys we've OFFERED who don't develop into "real contributors" over their college careers, so it's even less likely that a walk on would develop into a "real contributor."
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Post by rockhoya on Nov 12, 2013 1:29:21 GMT -5
This is even more intentionally baiting than your usual posts POD. Maybe because his dad is in the Georgetown HOF and is a soon-to-be NBA Hall of Famer? He's not his dad and no one is saying that. However, his dad has stated publicly that his son will be attending Georgetown. If you can get a kid with that size and that lineage and, presumably, basketball IQ as a walk-on somehow, how great would that be? That said, I hope Trey is good enough to earn a scholarship without considering his last name. If that's the case, all the better. In either case, I hope that Trey does attend Georgetown to play ball or not. You'd be hard-pressed to find a better ambassador for Georgetown than Alonzo. And I don't mean just Georgetown Basketball. He's the kind of person that makes the University look good. If he has a son that's anything like him just off the court, I hope admissions is after him. That's a whole lot of nothing related to his basketball ability. We have guys we've OFFERED who don't develop into "real contributors" over their college careers, so it's even less likely that a walk on would develop into a "real contributor." Great logic
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Post by Problem of Dog on Nov 12, 2013 1:32:27 GMT -5
That's a whole lot of nothing related to his basketball ability. We have guys we've OFFERED who don't develop into "real contributors" over their college careers, so it's even less likely that a walk on would develop into a "real contributor." Great logic Well, our coaches haven't pursued the kid and others in this thread who are knowledgeable about his talent say he's not a D1 player. You can hope and dream all you want, but he'd have to be the exception to the rule, and our coaches don't seem to think he will be.
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Post by hoyabuddha on Nov 12, 2013 7:02:24 GMT -5
If Trey is an smart athlete( run, jump, and is coordinated) something Hibbert was not when he arrived, then you keep the door open. Zo might teach the kid, something, you think?
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Post by prhoya on Nov 12, 2013 8:08:30 GMT -5
If Trey is an smart athlete( run, jump, and is coordinated) something Hibbert was not when he arrived, then you keep the door open. Zo might teach the kid, something, you think? Is Trey 7'0" tall?
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Post by daymondmyles on Nov 12, 2013 10:08:05 GMT -5
Jonathan Wallace. I know it's an oldie and an exception to the rule but sometimes walk-ons do develop into useful players.
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Post by Dhall on Nov 12, 2013 10:48:19 GMT -5
If John Caprio is good enough to walk on and then receive $50,000+ in funds from the basketball program when resources are supposedly scarce for a scholarship this year, then I think Trey Mourning is plenty worthy.
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Post by turbohoya on Nov 12, 2013 10:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Nov 12, 2013 11:08:05 GMT -5
If John Caprio is good enough to walk on and then receive $50,000+ in funds from the basketball program when resources are supposedly scarce for a scholarship this year, then I think Trey Mourning is plenty worthy. Caprio's scholarship was part of this year's budget. He got it because it was open and it's just for his senior year. Again, congrats to him and his family! Trey would be a four-year player. Let's TTS on this one.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 12, 2013 12:09:26 GMT -5
I do not see any controversy here. If Trey Mourning is a walk-on and not Division 1 talent, so what? What walk-ons have we had that are Division 1 talent? I know, Wallace, but that's one exception. Caprio is not high-major Division 1 talent, despite being a scholarship player for one year.
If Trey Mourning is a walk-on, there's absolutely no detriment, and if it turns out that he can really play, then all the better. If he doesn't, there's no loss, and we have the benefit of perhaps having Alonzo Mourning around the program a bit more. There's no downside.
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Post by jester on Nov 12, 2013 15:22:51 GMT -5
Just to be clear, Wallace was recruited BY JTIII at Princeton - I know he technically was a walk-on but I think that was the circumstances of his last-minute transfer before he entered college.
Would be interesting to see if JTIII would recruit a Jon Wallace today given the higher profile school (and our second-guessing) - a smart player that fits his system and lights out from three.
I think Starks and DSR have that ability (Starks more from 3, DSR more as a scorer) but Jon earned his stripes with consistency and stepping up in big moments early. I think DSR/Starks will follow more the Clark role (gradual improvement, big moments late Jr, Senior year). Starks needs to make that jump this year, and given our circumstances DSR will need to be more consistent too. He was streaky last year (30+ some games, little the next). My sense on DSR is we might need to live with that again this year.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 12, 2013 15:28:59 GMT -5
I do not see any controversy here. If Trey Mourning is a walk-on and not Division 1 talent, so what? What walk-ons have we had that are Division 1 talent? I know, Wallace, but that's one exception. Caprio is not high-major Division 1 talent, despite being a scholarship player for one year. If Trey Mourning is a walk-on, there's absolutely no detriment, and if it turns out that he can really play, then all the better. If he doesn't, there's no loss, and we have the benefit of perhaps having Alonzo Mourning around the program a bit more. There's no downside. I agree 100%. No downside.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 12, 2013 15:34:08 GMT -5
I do not see any controversy here. If Trey Mourning is a walk-on and not Division 1 talent, so what? What walk-ons have we had that are Division 1 talent? I know, Wallace, but that's one exception. Caprio is not high-major Division 1 talent, despite being a scholarship player for one year. If Trey Mourning is a walk-on, there's absolutely no detriment, and if it turns out that he can really play, then all the better. If he doesn't, there's no loss, and we have the benefit of perhaps having Alonzo Mourning around the program a bit more. There's no downside. I agree 100%. No downside. Agree completely.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 12, 2013 17:11:51 GMT -5
I agree 100%. No downside. Agree completely. Silly debate. Trey is a Hoya if he wants to be and we would be happy to have him.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 12, 2013 19:54:17 GMT -5
Just to be clear on Wallace - Thompson told him he likely wouldn't play at Georgetown, right? I remember that from an article. He came anyway because he's a baller.
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