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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 5, 2011 21:56:29 GMT -5
Who will now inherit the title of Sweatiest D-1 coach?? Buzz Williams, by a mile. Don't you mean by a quart?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 5, 2011 22:27:43 GMT -5
I agree that maryland could be a force with the right hire. I just don't expect them to make it. I think almost all the coaches who could make the difference are at jobs that are not far off enough from maryland that making the jump is worth it. I just can't see an established coach leaving an essentially equivalent job for the maryland job.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 5, 2011 22:29:20 GMT -5
Names in the mix?
1. Brad Stevens: No. He's from Indiana, never left, and has a good great thing going at Butler. People think he'll listen to Indiana someday, but College Park sure isn't Bloomington. 2. Shaka Smart? Just signed the extension. Would look bad if he walked away at this point. 2A. Mike Anderson? Would look really bad. 3. Sean Miller? I think Arizona is still a better job and the pressure isn't as severe. 4. Mike Brey? They're talking to him but he's also negotiating an extension. Good timing. 5. Jay Wright? What does it gain him? He's well paid at Nova and the argument about I-A football rings hollow because he will still be in demand regardless.
Once they get through this list, who else is there?
Mark Turgeon: Has done great things at Texas A&M. Buzz Williams: Always seems to be on the move. Anthony Grant: Enough star-power for the Terps fans? Josh Pastner: Memphis may be a tougher job than Maryland is. Johnny Dawkins: Don't laugh, they hired a Dukie once and he turned out OK.
At least we know it won't be Bruce Pearl, though if he had kept clean, he would have been an interesting choice. But if Maryland starts going down a public list and coming up short, it's going to get people grumbling, which is why Georgetown was incredibly smart not to negotiate in public in 2004.
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Post by vcjack on May 5, 2011 23:57:40 GMT -5
Brad Stevens has to be waiting out the last days of Creepy Crean's stay in Bloomington. IU fans have been remarkably patient but when the tide turns and they realize that Dwayne Wade isn't walking though that door...
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Post by theexorcist on May 6, 2011 7:57:47 GMT -5
Two posts. The first is on the Maryland job.
Maryland is the third-best job in the ACC and one of the better jobs in the country. The list of premier jobs is Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Duke and North Carolina. Maryland is in that second tier, which is much larger and includes schools like Arizona, Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Syracuse, Memphis and Georgetown.
Maryland is located in possibly the best location for hoops in the country. It is the same state as Baltimore, which produces lots of talent relative to its size. It is a Metro ride away from DC, which produces some of the best talent in the country. It is an hour and a half away from Philadelphia, likewise a talent hotspot, and reasonably close to New Jersey and New York.
It is a state school, but basketball has always been king relative to football.
Maryland is located in a league that is persistently overrated by the national media. It takes effort to collapse and lose consistently to Boston College, Miami, Virginia Tech, and Florida State. It is thus harder to hit rock bottom and much easier to put together an 8-8 conference record and squeak into the tournament.
Maryland is a sleeping giant.
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Post by theexorcist on May 6, 2011 7:58:19 GMT -5
Second message.
How can ESPN say Williams won the right way when his player graduation rates were atrocious?
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Post by bronxhoya87 on May 6, 2011 8:27:43 GMT -5
Anthony Grant should be who they target. This GW leaving is all bad for Gtown.
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Post by NCHoya on May 6, 2011 8:34:34 GMT -5
The way this plays out will be interesting but in every way imaginable it is bad for the Hoyas. The complacency of Williams on the recruiting trail was so beneficial to Gtown, almost anyone on the lists being mentioned will be an instant upgrade in that department. Not a good day long-term for the Hoyas.
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Post by hoyabinx on May 6, 2011 8:58:03 GMT -5
The way this plays out will be interesting but in every way imaginable it is bad for the Hoyas. The complacency of Williams on the recruiting trail was so beneficial to Gtown, almost anyone on the lists being mentioned will be an instant upgrade in that department. Not a good day long-term for the Hoyas. How about in the short term? Nick Faust asked out of his LOI. He is a Bmore kid, maybe he'd be interested in us? We have a scholarship now.....
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Post by the_way on May 6, 2011 9:01:05 GMT -5
Second message. How can ESPN say Williams won the right way when his player graduation rates were atrocious? Well, he didn't cheat. At least it appears that way, because you never know about anything about anybody. But, thats what they mean. And you tell by his recruiting, that he certainly wasn't buying players. lol
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Post by chep3 on May 6, 2011 9:07:22 GMT -5
Does Anthony Grant have ties to the area (I'm not counting VCU as the area). He always struck me as more of a southern guy, probably because of his time at Florida. While UMCP is definitely a step up from Alabama, I'm not sure it's a good move. If he wanted to move, couldn't he have ended up at GTech? I have no idea about the facilities down there, but it's in a hell of a recruiting spot.
What about Jeff Capel now that he's out at OU?
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Post by Boz on May 6, 2011 9:15:45 GMT -5
Look for burning coaches in College Park tonight. This was a Freudian slip I hope, EasyEd. I mean, College Park is a cesspool and all, we all know that, but it's not quite Fallujah. Personally, I think they should just go ahead and hire Feinstein/BUM. Sure he'll tank both games against Duke every year. But he's also a complete idiot. So, you know, perfect fit.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on May 6, 2011 9:18:45 GMT -5
Maryland should be all over Anthony Grant.... I would think that there is an out clause for Shaka Smart.... Jamie Dixon's name always come up for jobs. I am sure several coaches will use Maryland to get a better contract at their current job.
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Post by the_way on May 6, 2011 9:24:52 GMT -5
Does Anthony Grant have ties to the area (I'm not counting VCU as the area). He always struck me as more of a southern guy, probably because of his time at Florida. While UMCP is definitely a step up from Alabama, I'm not sure it's a good move. If he wanted to move, couldn't he have ended up at GTech? I have no idea about the facilities down there, but it's in a hell of a recruiting spot. What about Jeff Capel now that he's out at OU? Grant is from Miami. And he has strong ties in the south. I don't see him leaving Alabama for Maryland. Better chance to win in the SEC than in the ACC. Plus, its less pressure with Spring Football being more important to Alabama than the basketball season. Maryland's basketball team is the premier program on campus. That is something one shouldn't take lightly. I think Capel showed that he isn't ready for big-time hoops given how things fell off during his time at Oklahoma.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on May 6, 2011 9:27:10 GMT -5
Why would they hire someone who just got fired?
What about Jeff Capel now that he's out at OU?[/quote]
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 6, 2011 10:17:43 GMT -5
According to Sporting News, the Terps are targeting Wright, Dixon, Brey, and Miller. Let's see:
Wright-I don't think so. Villanova is a fine situation. No real reason to leave. Dixon-Maybe Maryland is a slightly better job, but their roster is garbage. Dixon has a solid squad and a good situation at Pitt. Brey-I don't see any advantage Maryland has over ND. This will just be extension leverage for Brey. Miller-The only real possibility in this list, though I don't think Maryland as a job is much better than Arizona. It will be tough to lure him out of AZ.
Overall, I think they strike out with all 4.
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Post by theexorcist on May 6, 2011 10:25:47 GMT -5
According to Sporting News, the Terps are targeting Wright, Dixon, Brey, and Miller. Let's see: Wright-I don't think so. Villanova is a fine situation. No real reason to leave. Dixon-Maybe Maryland is a slightly better job, but their roster is garbage. Dixon has a solid squad and a good situation at Pitt. Brey-I don't see any advantage Maryland has over ND. This will just be extension leverage for Brey. Miller-The only real possibility in this list, though I don't think Maryland as a job is much better than Arizona. It will be tough to lure him out of AZ. Overall, I think they strike out with all 4. My thoughts: 1. Villanova seems comparable to Maryland. Not better, not worse. Plus, 'Nova has a better roster. With that said, Maryland has much more potential money than Villanova. The ceiling's probably higher. 2. Pitt - agreed. Lateral move gets risky when Dixon has such good teams every year. 3. Notre Dame - Maryland has lots of leverage over ND - lower admissions standards, a fan base that is more passionate about basketball, and a much more diverse student body. ND has its subway alumni, but it never really runs any city and is second-fiddle in its own state by a mile. This one is interesting. 4. Arizona - No local talent of note. They have to compete with a USC that has a new arena for talent from Los Angeles and California in general. But Miller had a really good team last year. Arizona is a basketball school and a good job. Probably not just based on their short-term prospects.
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 6, 2011 10:31:48 GMT -5
A counter. Anything is possible, but:
1. Jay Wright is a Villanova guy. He grew up outside of Philly, went to Bucknell, coached at Drexel and at Nova under Rollie. He's turned down interest from better schools than Maryland.
2. Dixon has turned down similar/better schools. He's a West Coast Guy. He's finally got some elite recruits coming in.
3. I could see Brey jumping. He's from the mid-Atlantic, right? He's struggled to recruit too well at ND. And it's so second fiddle there. I think it'd be a mistake, since this year probably bought him about five more stress-free years.
4. Arizona does incredibly well in Socal and Miller is coming off a great year. Arizona has as good or better a history.
Basically, unless Maryland comes up with complete FU money, you're counting on the ACC, and I just don't see it except for Brey.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 6, 2011 10:38:41 GMT -5
Somewhere in College Park, a dry cleaner's is preparing to file bankruptcy.
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Post by wrestlemania on May 6, 2011 10:41:22 GMT -5
Who will now inherit the title of Sweatiest D-1 coach?? Buzz Williams, by a mile. Unless Pete Gillen returns to coaching. As to the potential replacements, I agree with pretty much everything that's been said about Miller, Dixon et al. Part of the problem is that Maryland can't really use compensation as an enticement -- schools are paying big for good coaches these days. Tubby Smith seems like a more realistic possibility to me -- by now he's probably figured out that he can't take Minnesota much further in the Big Ten. Maryland offers more long-term upside.
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