nodak89
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Post by nodak89 on May 7, 2011 15:18:41 GMT -5
Come back, Hollis, and be a lottery pick next year!
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RDF
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Post by RDF on May 7, 2011 15:23:51 GMT -5
I really hope he comes back. Our team was better with him in the lineup all season. Deferral to the seniority of "The DC 3" was a bad move. There's no way around it. So to answer your question RDF, no it would not be worth it at all. My only hope now is that we get to see him turned loose at his natural position, so that we get a full view of the talent that NBA scouts are now seeing. I couldn't resent the 3 guard lineup anymore than I've started to with this saga. We will know one aspect by tomorrow--if not sooner. Thing I just hope doesn't happen; having a guy like Hollis for 2 1/2 years (he came in with Clark/Sims/Monroe-not Vee and Benimon) and he never got an entire season at his natural position. So you never know how things might have gone with him. That would suck. |
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Post by RDF on May 7, 2011 15:30:00 GMT -5
He's a 6'7" kid who can really shoot it. At that height he will always be able to get his shot off. The NBA will always be interested in that. The NBA looks at potential for their league not performance previously (way too many examples to cite), so I agree with those that say its not a surprise that Hollis has impressed some teams in a very weak draft, especially for wing players. The question I would pose to Hollis is how much higher could you go (and how much better would your opportunity to stick in the NBA) be if you come back another year and are the star of the team? And if it's because he hasn't liked Georgetown that he's looking for other options, I would tell him that things can easily change. I was going to transfer after 2 years (really felt out of place at GU), but decided to stick it out because I felt there was a reason I ended up there. Best decision I've made -- would never have traded my last 2 years for anything, nor the opportunities its afforded me since. Things can change, kid. Perspectives can change. You can grow up also and come to understand the situation better. Are the issues something fundamental or something that can change? Don't make a major life decision because of temporary unhappiness. Good points Dude. So many claim to never watch/ignore the NBA yet they all want to tell players why they can't make it.  Hollis has skills that NBA is looking for-he's a legit 6'7, can shoot the ball and has better handle then most think--just that he's not been put in a position to show it--so he automatically gets downgraded for being a "weak ballhandler". How do we know? Ever see him get to handle the ball much? I've seen him put in on floor and hit pullup jumpers. We've seen him put it on deck and finish at rim--he can hit pop out jumpers. NBA game is a lot more simple to play due to talent of everyone. Floor spacing is valued and better and if you can do one thing great, you have a skill that is coveted. Just a matter of whether Hollis viewed this process as a deciding factor or wanting to show what he can do they might not have known and return to improve his status? So many wrote off his chances due to an article and comments from people who aren't Hollis. Things change in a hurry and hopefully for the Hoyas, he comes back to improve his standing and have a huge JR year at a position he should be playing. |
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Post by williambraskyiii on May 7, 2011 15:40:21 GMT -5
Not to be that guy but if we enter next season with out entire 2013 graduating class gone, JTIII has some 'splainin' to do. That is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on May 7, 2011 15:49:57 GMT -5
Not to be that guy but if we enter next season with out entire 2013 graduating class gone, JTIII has some 'splainin' to do. That is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances. Brasky, come on dude, why do you care what others think? You're tougher then that. ;D Each transfer/departure needs to be viewed for what it is and 2 of the 3 would be worth discussing-the other is simply a case of a lesser player moving on. |
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Post by bergerhoya on May 7, 2011 16:02:24 GMT -5
Does Hollis not realize that there is a strong possibility that there won't be an NBA season next year? That's part of the reason why so many of the highly ranked prospects are coming back to school.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on May 7, 2011 16:08:45 GMT -5
one more day DONT MISS THE DEADLIN TO PULL YOURE NAME OUT MAN that would be a major mistake man go hoyas STAY HOLLIS YUP  |
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drd13
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Post by drd13 on May 7, 2011 16:09:01 GMT -5
I think the highly ranked prospects coming back would push Hollis towards staying in the draft. Next season's draft will be infinitely stronger than this year's. This year's class is perhaps the weakest of all time. Thats why Hollis actually getting drafted isn't as crazily unrealistic as it once was.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 7, 2011 16:41:50 GMT -5
I think the highly ranked prospects coming back would push Hollis towards staying in the draft. Next season's draft will be infinitely stronger than this year's. This year's class is perhaps the weakest of all time. Thats why Hollis actually getting drafted isn't as crazily unrealistic as it once was. Then, god forbid, Hollis might actually have to stay for his senior season and actually prove something on the court. Oh the horror. |
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zxhoya
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Post by zxhoya on May 7, 2011 16:47:44 GMT -5
I truly believe that Hollis only put his name in so he could compete in NJ with the other underclassmen just for the competition and tutoring available at the pro level. I also believe that JTIII encouraged him to pursue this opportunity and will withdraw his name tomorrow.
Imo and my hope.
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drd13
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Post by drd13 on May 7, 2011 16:48:56 GMT -5
In his defense, 2 whole seasons where a lot could go wrong is a lot to swallow for someone who has a chance to fulfill a lifelong dream of reaching the nba. I'm not saying he should jump for that reason. I think we all agree that it is in his best interest to return to school. However, lets at least try to put ourselves in his shoes here, and understand that its not as clearcut of a decision as we're making it out to be.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on May 7, 2011 19:27:55 GMT -5
i feel like hollis will be back but i will tell you he is not happy at g-town,but will most likely come back 1 more season the come out.it worked out for hoyas that hollis just does not want to sit out or he would be leaving like vee,jerrelle.it is this system that players after 2 years get tired of it.
we loose free,wright,vaughn. then vee and jerrelle leave .that leaves this lineup starters-hollis
starks
nate
clark
sims
no experienced depth that played any real minutes of college ball.
5 true freshman as depth and moses and bowen. hoyas will struggle big time with the lack of any experience depth at all.
every year 2-3 leave. i am sick of it.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on May 7, 2011 19:46:45 GMT -5
jctnhoya4ever: I hope that Hollis returns. I too am tired of the constant turn overs. I hate to say it, but I wonder how many of the incoming freshmen will remain for four years. I can understand an All-American considering living early. I will accept a young man that's convinced that the program is not for them. This should be the exception and not the trend that take place at Georgetown. I have been a fan and supporter of the program since the '73-'74 season. I am dissatified with anything other than a very competitive program year after year....second to known!
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on May 7, 2011 20:10:26 GMT -5
Had Hollis displayed NBA-level talent, he would have been starting and playing 35 minutes per game. It's really not that complicated.
As for players leaving, every good program experiences the same. We are no better or worse. Life in the big leagues.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 7, 2011 20:40:57 GMT -5
i feel like hollis will be back but i will tell you he is not happy at g-town,but will most likely come back 1 more season the come out.it worked out for hoyas that hollis just does not want to sit out or he would be leaving like vee,jerrelle.it is this system that players after 2 years get tired of it. we loose free,wright,vaughn. then vee and jerrelle leave .that leaves this lineup starters-hollis starks nate clark sims no experienced depth that played any real minutes of college ball. 5 true freshman as depth and moses and bowen. hoyas will struggle big time with the lack of any experience depth at all. every year 2-3 leave. i am sick of it. We have had guys leave early to get drafted by the NBA. Oh the horror. We have had bench guys leave to try to get more time elsewhere. Macklin is the only guy who showed anything elsewhere. Please let's stop pretending that you know anything about any part of the Hoya situation. I'm sick of that. |
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on May 7, 2011 20:51:56 GMT -5
i know more then you ever will know,and the fact is hollis is not a happy hoya. also nate is frustrated by the system. just think what you want i know what the real deal is.
go hoyas.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on May 7, 2011 21:05:11 GMT -5
In all truth, unless Hollis comes out himself and says, "Im not a happy hoya", it's not fact. It's speculation. If you have sources, divulge them, please. If not, you're just stirring s--- up.
And Nate being frustrated by the system is complete speculation. But as I said, you act like you have inside sources and such.
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Post by bergerhoya on May 7, 2011 21:11:18 GMT -5
Anyone who doesn't think the slew of transfers we have had during JT3's tenure isn't troubling is turning a blind eye, and anyone who doesn't think the systems has something to do with it is doing it again. As much as we would all like to pretend like everything is great with this program, clearly there are on the court issues with this program.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on May 7, 2011 21:30:19 GMT -5
so much on the court issues that we've been to the postseason every year that III has been here, a final four, a sweet 16, recruited the top player in the country, recruited mcdonalds all-americans, and have two big east titles, regular season and postseason.
No dude, we had ON COURT ISSUES when Esh was here....lol....you people make me laugh
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 7, 2011 21:35:26 GMT -5
i feel like hollis will be back but i will tell you he is not happy at g-town, How do you know? Aside from perhaps one unsubstantiated tweet, there is really no basis for this assertion. Speculation is speculation. Maybe Hollis is unhappy, maybe he's happy. If you are some sort of insider, then give us the basis for your knowledge. If you are somehow affiliated with the program in an official capacity, I doubt you would be posting here. While I don't post frequently, I have been reading the boards daily for several years and I don't recall you commenting frequently during last season. Where was all the inside information then, when we could have used it? We'll find out what Hollis wants to do tomorrow. If he stays, great, I think he would be a key factor in the Hoyas' success during the 2011-2012 season. If he leaves, next year will be a rebuilding year and we will move on. |
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