Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 10, 2012 19:48:25 GMT -5
Yes, the committee seemed to be spinning their wheels last night, not really knowing how to proceed. I think the enrollment increases for grad students were favored, because grad students are more mature, etc. There were some suggestions to leave the problem of trash, etc. to the public safety people, instead of the university.
I was amused that Chairman Hood at one point said that lots of neighborhoods have noise; he knows his neighborhood has noise, and yes, he is responsible for some of that noise.
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit.' And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." -Ayrton Senna
Re: Town/Gown battle joined « Reply #195 on Feb 10, 2012, 11:55am »
Them "allowing" a metro stop is like me "allowing" you to go out and make a billion dollars. Its not worth much as a concession. It is beyond the realm of reasonably expectations that a metro stop in Gtown gets built within 30 years.
Obviously I was not suggesting we go out and just "build" a metro. Its that the neighborhood association needs to understand what a give and take world is. If we had built the metro when it was proposed they would not have the issues of parking, buses etc. Sometimes they need to understand what the lesser evil is instead of fighting for everything they want and further complicating everything
Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Feb 13, 2012 18:01:38 GMT -5
rpn6 -- the metro thing is a lot of an urban myth (one that has grown legs because it fits with the general disposition of many "anti" neighbors).
The reason that the orange/blue lines don't have a stop in Georgetown was primarily an engineering one, based on where the station would have been, on K Street, and issues having to do with the depth of the station, the placement near the river (and probably as a result, the potential for station flooding, or having to build the longest escalator in the entire system to get up to M street).
That doesn't change the fact that for certain folks in the neighborhood, anything that challenges their perception of Georgetown as a quaint village is considered bad.
"Reward Hoya Blue. These guys were banging on pots and pans with their shirts off through torrential downpours in an overtime win against Duquesne. That’s the type of spirit that could transform Georgetown into a football school every fall." - The Voice, January 19, 2006
The reason that the orange/blue lines don't have a stop in Georgetown was primarily an engineering one, based on where the station would have been, on K Street, and issues having to do with the depth of the station, the placement near the river (and probably as a result, the potential for station flooding, or having to build the longest escalator in the entire system to get up to M street).
The Metro system was initially envisioned around getting intown workers to the suburbs. Georgetown (esp. in its more industrial, pre-restaurant days) was seen as having an insufficent population of commuters to justify a stop of its own.
Good read, thanks for posting. I particularly liked this bit:
In the end, the campus plan conflict was a particularly Washingtonian kind of urban planning politics, more focused on saying no than anything else. Like so many other land use debates, it focuses less on what the District is—a big city that, among other things, has a lot of students in it—than on its most upscale residents’ various suburban fantasies about what sort of place they’d like it to be. No wonder campus politics are so acrimonious.
A great illustration of how pointless is the university's limitless accommodation of the neighborhood's wackos:
In years past, residents of the affluent neighborhoods abutting the school had complained about the trash generated by students who rent houses there. So, last year, the school hired its own garbage trucks to supplement public trash collection. The city’s trucks come once or twice a week. The school’s come every day. Twice.
But if you think this sort of thing—a major research university prostrating itself before neighbors who resent a population of perfectly legal renters—would tamp down the animus, then you don’t understand the bizarre universe of D.C. campus politics. In this world, a university paying for private garbage service isn’t evidence of goodwill at all.
Let me guess: the neighbors are Editeded about the trash collection trucks crowding their streets and making noise.
Even better. They claim that the trash situation has somehow gotten worse because now students just carelessly throw trash on the street.
"You think I can't kill you? There's a hundred little punks graduating from Syracuse this year that would beg to kiss my ass. Get outta here!" - Homer Simpson
Let me guess: the neighbors are Editeded about the trash collection trucks crowding their streets and making noise.
Even better. They claim that the trash situation has somehow gotten worse because now students just carelessly throw trash on the street.
Hahahahahaha.
(I'm actually sitting alone in my office laughing at this.)
Maybe this is what they want:
Last Edit: Feb 18, 2012 11:21:34 GMT -5 by strummer85
"I was wondering what was keeping this thread alive. That it is a discussion of what they call a famous defensive system and how and why hifi was banned from various football boards is not surprising in the least." -jgalt
Evans eyes Georgetown for Redskins: A new plan from Councilmembers Jack Evans and Michael Brown would demolish Georgetown's campus and move it to Hill East. The current campus would become a practice facility for the Redskins. Some Georgetown neighbors immediately endorsed the plan, because the new facility will create almost no noise and attract very few people to the area.
"Reward Hoya Blue. These guys were banging on pots and pans with their shirts off through torrential downpours in an overtime win against Duquesne. That’s the type of spirit that could transform Georgetown into a football school every fall." - The Voice, January 19, 2006
"You think I can't kill you? There's a hundred little punks graduating from Syracuse this year that would beg to kiss my ass. Get outta here!" - Homer Simpson
The "Big Announcement" which included the mayor... So there's another committee that has to be talked into approving things? Will this supercede others or no?
Man do bureaucracies love adding more bureaucracy. Unless this committee supersedes the others and has actual power of approval then there is no point to it.
"And yet another Hoyatalk discussion derailed by a debate over topography."- strummer85
I'll hold my excitement until they unveil a blue ribbon commission to tackle the issue
Yeah, but to do that, you need a working group to discuss how the commission will be formed.
"I was wondering what was keeping this thread alive. That it is a discussion of what they call a famous defensive system and how and why hifi was banned from various football boards is not surprising in the least." -jgalt
There are some errors in the WaPo article. No etiquette classes, for one -- just good ol' fashioned off-campus orientation.
"You think I can't kill you? There's a hundred little punks graduating from Syracuse this year that would beg to kiss my ass. Get outta here!" - Homer Simpson
