damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on Jan 3, 2011 23:06:22 GMT -5
Freeman has the same body language if he scores 30 Disagree. While he isn't the second coming of Kevin Garnett, watch him when he is into a game. He claps his hand, he isn't completely slouched over, he is involved in huddles with his teammates (and yes, sometimes he even has a smile on his face). Not the same tonight. |
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jan 3, 2011 23:07:08 GMT -5
ps damn hoya our big east schedule is alot easier than last year excuse me but our three double games are .. and this is supposed to be like on tough one medium and one easier one.. ST JOHNS OUCH CINNCY UNDEFEATED OUCH AND CUSE OUR TRADITIOINAL RIVALRY double ouch HOW IS THAT EASIER THAN LAST YEARS SCHEDULE not sure how you add that one up please explain. BRUTAL schedule and start nd away and st johns away first two outa three not so easy but maybe im missing something here go hoyas move on QUICKLY west va is a huge MUST WIN look at the damn schedule. its not brutal. it is MUCH easier than last year. self-explanatory for non-mentally challenged. |
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OldHoyafan
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 3, 2011 23:07:29 GMT -5
I have said this before, but a 4 guard offense which is basicly what the Hoyas are running can only work to win games in BE if you have 4 athletic guards who have quick feet that allow them to stay in front of their man so that bigger guys have to shoot ball ovver then in clos, which gives their big man a shot at blocking shot and have the hops to get the rebound after you have boxed bigger guy off from boards, which causes him to let the smaller guard have the rebound or get called for over the back(Nova model). The only guard of the starting 4 who has that ability is Wright at 5'11". Freeman is athletic for his height and weight but does not have the stand still hops nor lateral quckness to keep everything in front of him. Clark has the hops but not the lateral movement. Thompson has the hops but limited lateral movement and very suspect handle after 2 dribbles. In short this team is not constituted to play a small lineup and win in BE.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 3, 2011 23:07:51 GMT -5
And to professor, if you don't think Hollis is a good rebounder, I beg to differ. Also liked what I saw from Nate tonight. Incorrect. Hollis played the majority of tonights game at the 3. He's a good rebounder for the 3, at the 4 he is a liability, can't box out and gets pushed around. |
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alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Jan 3, 2011 23:08:15 GMT -5
Austin and Chris have to step up right now and lead this team.
These 2 have to look in the mirror with what has transpired the past 2, now going on 3 years. They are the ones that have been there and now remain. People ragged on DaJuan, on Jessie, on Greg..now these 2 are left standing and it's time to STEP UP and LEAD.
I have faith they can do it but it has to start tonight. On the bus, tomorrow in practice, and remain throughout the year. There is no more time to waste.
I can't say I'm optimistic, but We can snap out of this, they are skilled enough, we do have enough pieces but the sharpness and readiness of this team has to become consistent and they have to lay it all on the line. Not for one half, not for one possession. For 40 minutes every time out. Don't wait and try to scramble to do so in March when the reality hits in that time is up. Do it now.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jan 3, 2011 23:12:25 GMT -5
I certainly don't know if Austin was angry or, if he was, why. Maybe he was angry at himself. Maybe he had good reason. He didn't light it up tonight. Fine. I'm not a fan of not being in the huddle but I don't know why that was either. He's been so good for so long that he's always a threat and spreads the defense of the opponent. He doesn't have to be on to help. He draws defenders. He gets a quicker pass in my book because he's certainly earned it. I don't want to make excuses for the kid because he's too good to need them. All I'm saying is that what you see might not be the proper story.
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Post by DallasHoya on Jan 3, 2011 23:13:23 GMT -5
I wonder what the record is for the least number of NCAA tournament wins by the most number of McD AAs on one team over a four year period? Unfortunately, that's where we may be headed absent some senior leadership.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Jan 3, 2011 23:18:12 GMT -5
You chicken littles kill me....hahahaha
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 3, 2011 23:20:54 GMT -5
You chicken littles kill me....hahahaha I knew this was gonna happen when earlier in the season people were saying, "Final Four Team" and "I love this team!" You are just setting yourself up for disappointment with the extreme mood swings. |
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Jan 3, 2011 23:22:17 GMT -5
It's a long season. Yes, this was a bad loss, but last I checked we have two months left in the REGULAR SEASON......get a grip
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Jan 3, 2011 23:22:18 GMT -5
I certainly don't know if Austin was angry or, if he was, why. Maybe he was angry at himself. Maybe he had good reason. He didn't light it up tonight. Fine. I'm not a fan of not being in the huddle but I don't know why that was either. He's been so good for so long that he's always a threat and spreads the defense of the opponent. He doesn't have to be on to help. He draws defenders. He gets a quicker pass in my book because he's certainly earned it. I don't want to make excuses for the kid because he's too good to need them. All I'm saying is that what you see might not be the proper story. I'm not advocating that JTIII benches him, but it's painfully obvious to anyone paying attention that Austin's head isn't in the game and while some may not care, his on-court demeanor and interaction with his teammates and JTIII is inexcusable for someone who was expected to be a leader on this team. Maybe he's going through something off the court, and if he is, I hope he gets through it, but if he's going to continue this way, then he might need to sit because it's obvious that as he goes, the team goes and the team is going nowhere with him leading the team in such a fashion. |
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Post by hoya137 on Jan 3, 2011 23:23:07 GMT -5
damnhoya - good post.
I'm really disappointed about point #1, and it certainly deserves to be point #1. If the guys aren't together, that doesn't bode well. They came out from halftime pretty strong, and down 47-45, I'm wondering why they'd be so frustrated with each other -- did you catch the gist of what was being said, or why Henry/Austin were mad?
You're spot on with 3, 6, and 8.
3) I thought Clark was strong at the end, hustling, scrapping (and yes, looked bad on D. I'll say though that he was literally on an island in that spot -- clearly advantage offense).
6) I was impressed with SJU tonight. Over the past few years, they've had athletes, but to me they haven't appeared to be well coached. Tonight, while they didn't look very skilled on O, they did play under control and with discipline. Considering the talent they have coming next year .. that program sure looks to be on the rise.
8) Really nice game from Hollis ... he's shooting with confidence, and if he can learn to finish stronger at the rim, I think he's in good position to be a solid scorer.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jan 3, 2011 23:26:33 GMT -5
There are any number of reasons his demeanor/interaction were the way they were. Maybe guys weren't listening to a senior captain trying to lead. All I'm saying is that I don't know and that one game does not a season make. Give the kid the benefit of the doubt. He's earned it. It's not that I'm not concerned. I'm more attempting to convey that having watched him for 3+ years, I have exceedingly little reason to doubt him. I choose to trust him. I'm not saying I'm right. I happen to think he deserves it. He's a senior captain for a reason.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jan 3, 2011 23:26:56 GMT -5
I mean, there is no way you can bench Austin Freeman. No way, no how. He is our best and most dependable offensive threat. He had a bad game tonight. He is entitled to a few throughout the season. I am all for targeted criticism, but sorry, Austin is not deserving of any such criticism at this juncture. If he was sulking because he wasn't getting enough touches, then I agree with him...he needs to get touches every offensive possession. He is our best damn player.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jan 3, 2011 23:29:30 GMT -5
I mean, there is no way you can bench Austin Freeman. No way, no how. He is our best and most dependable offensive threat. He had a bad game tonight. He is entitled to a few throughout the season. I am all for targeted criticism, but sorry, Austin is not deserving of any such criticism at this juncture. If he was sulking because he wasn't getting enough touches, then I agree with him...he needs to get touches every offensive possession. He is our best damn player. This is a much better stated opinion than mine. Thanks for that. |
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 3, 2011 23:30:42 GMT -5
Something to think about: there's a reason why Big East teams are a combined 12-2 at home this year--home teams have been strong this year and this was a game GU probably wins at Verizon Center.
Also, per the HoyaSaxa.com front page, Georgetown never plays well in close games at the Garden: 0-6 in games of three points or less. On better news, however, GU is 7-3 vs. WVU at Verizon.
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Post by HoyaSouth on Jan 3, 2011 23:32:06 GMT -5
This is getting very Esherickesque...
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Post by hoya137 on Jan 3, 2011 23:36:02 GMT -5
Free has almost always seemed to be a pretty level headed guy -- and he's certainly entitled to get frustrated. I'm by no means calling him out ... I'm just interested in what damnhoya saw/heard.
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ksf42001
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Post by ksf42001 on Jan 3, 2011 23:36:23 GMT -5
seriously?
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 3, 2011 23:37:09 GMT -5
Interesting quote from Chris Wright after the game (courtesy of ESPN recap):
"I don't think I'm forcing shots. I don't think I'm doing anything uncharacteristic, just missed shots," said Wright who missed six of his seven 3-point attempts. "I believe in myself. I believe in my shot."
I'll go on record as saying Wright might believe in himself and his offensive game more than he should. That charge tonight late in the second half was a terrible play for a senior point guard. He made up his mind as soon as he received the pass that he was going to take the ball to the basket come hell or high water.
Simply put, this team isn't going very far as long as Wright is making a lot of decisions on the court. He's just not a good decision maker, particularly for a guy his height and for a senior. Nice kid, good representative of the university - just not the leader that's going to take a high major team very far.
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