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Post by RDF on Jul 22, 2011 23:40:19 GMT -5
Nobody is saying for III to not recruit Britt-what the point is--get who wants to come and who you can get instead of holding a spot for someone--which has happened and burned many a program--but created the downturn for III in the last couple of years in terms of lack of depth.
Britt is actually same age as Christon and playing down--so the 2 years younger doesn't apply to age--as much as classification.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jul 23, 2011 9:23:04 GMT -5
Nobody is saying for III to not recruit Britt-what the point is--get who wants to come and who you can get instead of holding a spot for someone--which has happened and burned many a program--but created the downturn for III in the last couple of years in terms of lack of depth. Britt is actually same age as Christon and playing down--so the 2 years younger doesn't apply to age--as much as classification. True, but the point is the staff knows better than we do about who actually wants to come and who doesnt. TTS.
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Post by hoyazeke on Jul 23, 2011 12:10:49 GMT -5
I agree with most of what you say, but of all the top prospects listing GU the one you want the most is Christon? Not even Anderson or Drummond (as unlikely as that last one seems). I think with the Myles Davis situation we should've learned that even though a school is your dream school going up an offer from them isnt usually the end-all. Prospects dont just go to the school they rooted for growing up, if that were the case then there would be no point to recruiting . Idk much more than you do, but maybe Christon wants in maybe he doesn't? Nobody knows but him, not even necessarily his parents.[/quote] I agree that we should recruit the 5 stars hard but I nolonger get my hopes up for them choosing GU. Just in the last 3 yrs we have lost so many GU locks or favorites that I just assume that the UK, KU, UNC, or Dukes are gonna get them in the end. So basically, I get worked up over the kids that I believe we really have a chance to land. And right now I believe that the Top 25 level recruits don't see GU as a Nat'l title contender or a route to the League................just my opinion
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Post by RDF on Jul 29, 2011 18:11:13 GMT -5
There is an update on DCsportsfan.com about Nate Britt and Kris Jenkins summer performances and since Britt is a big point of discussion, let's focus on what he says about his future/undecided home. To paraphrase he mentioned it'll be a program that "likes to get up and down and plays at a fast tempo".
So all of you who want Britt and III to focus on him--after reading that comment--do you like Georgetown's chances considering how they are viewed to play and how they play? I don't care how much sunshine he's pumping up III's ass, these kids are speaking the truth about how they want to play-so unless III decides to scrap how the Hoyas operate and play, why do you even continue to bother? It's time to move on and hope to find someone who wants to come here, doesn't care about tempo and WANTS to be a Hoya.
This kid has given every indication that he prefers a different program. Just hope the HC realizes it.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 29, 2011 20:02:58 GMT -5
RDF, the one thing I will respectively counter with is this question: what good player DOESN'T say that they want to get up and down and play fast? Yes, I'm sure there are some out there but for the most part that style is what kids prefer (and I don't blame them). I'm sure Kyle Anderson prefers at least watching that style if not outright playing it himself. Heck, I recall Roy Hibbert in high school say that he likes to play uptempo. Roy freakin' Hibbert. In high school when his top speed often looked more like a leisurely jog. It just shows you that kids often have unrealistic ideas about what style is best for them (or the most fun to play) and little grasp regarding what style is actually more suited for them. Seriously a basketball player claiming he wants to play "slow" and deliberate is like a man saying he wants to date an ugly or average looking woman. In the end the latter may come to realize that looks aren't everything or that many of the top shelf girls are out of his league or that perhaps after getting very familiar with that so-so looking gal she becomes prettier and prettier to him every day. And then perhaps he'll settle in and marry her. But in the beginning he is thinking about pinup type girls. Basketball players are the same way. In the beginning they all want to run the court non-stop for Sports Center like highlights.
There are many current Hoyas who also spoke about liking to play "fast" and yet they ended up at GU anyhow. Most of them have settle in to the style of play (for better and for worse).
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Post by kghoya on Jul 29, 2011 20:21:39 GMT -5
Maybe Britt has only seen some of the recent high scoring up and down games like Duke, Missouri, Villanova
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Post by zxhoya on Jul 30, 2011 15:17:15 GMT -5
There is an update on DCsportsfan.com about Nate Britt and Kris Jenkins summer performances and since Britt is a big point of discussion, let's focus on what he says about his future/undecided home. To paraphrase he mentioned it'll be a program that "likes to get up and down and plays at a fast tempo". So all of you who want Britt and III to focus on him--after reading that comment--do you like Georgetown's chances considering how they are viewed to play and how they play? I don't care how much sunshine he's pumping up III's ass, these kids are speaking the truth about how they want to play-so unless III decides to scrap how the Hoyas operate and play, why do you even continue to bother? It's time to move on and hope to find someone who wants to come here, doesn't care about tempo and WANTS to be a Hoya. This kid has given every indication that he prefers a different program. Just hope the HC realizes it. To quote you RDF regarding another recruit: "III has stayed in recruitment as he should--you make kids like this turn you down" This is the point of it all, recruit the best players for your program until they tell you no and Britt is one of those players that seems perfect for III's system and improves the program.
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Post by RDF on Jul 30, 2011 16:18:37 GMT -5
There is an update on DCsportsfan.com about Nate Britt and Kris Jenkins summer performances and since Britt is a big point of discussion, let's focus on what he says about his future/undecided home. To paraphrase he mentioned it'll be a program that "likes to get up and down and plays at a fast tempo". So all of you who want Britt and III to focus on him--after reading that comment--do you like Georgetown's chances considering how they are viewed to play and how they play? I don't care how much sunshine he's pumping up III's ass, these kids are speaking the truth about how they want to play-so unless III decides to scrap how the Hoyas operate and play, why do you even continue to bother? It's time to move on and hope to find someone who wants to come here, doesn't care about tempo and WANTS to be a Hoya. This kid has given every indication that he prefers a different program. Just hope the HC realizes it. To quote you RDF regarding another recruit: "III has stayed in recruitment as he should--you make kids like this turn you down" This is the point of it all, recruit the best players for your program until they tell you no and Britt is one of those players that seems perfect for III's system and improves the program. You also don't waste time. The other kids I was referring too haven't made it clear what they are looking for--this one has. If you want to disagree about whether Georgetown is a team that gets up and down and puts the game in hands of their guards, then feel free, I just am in wait and see mode because to this point the program Britt says he's destined for and the program Georgetown is are worlds apart.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 30, 2011 17:51:54 GMT -5
I recall Vernon Macklin saying that he was looking for a program that gets up and down as he committed to g'town. We all know how that worked out but just sayin. I see your point rdf and hope this recruitment isn't an exercise in futility....I am thinking the staff must know something that we don't.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jul 30, 2011 19:28:59 GMT -5
I understand RDF's point, but are you trying to tell me that Chris was looking for a slow tempo team coming out of high school? Give me a break every kid wants to run.
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Post by RDF on Jul 30, 2011 21:42:53 GMT -5
I understand RDF's point, but are you trying to tell me that Chris was looking for a slow tempo team coming out of high school? Give me a break every kid wants to run. Wright committed to 2 programs that ran the Princeton offense--he originally committed to NC State so it wasn't that much of a difference for him and Georgetown was on the upswing when he committed. New coach, new optimism, and program winning in March. Let's just say the word around Britt at the tournaments I attended wasn't positive regarding Georgetown and I didn't wear any Georgetown gear nor did I mention that I was a fan, just talked to people and hear what was said. If he chose Hoyas after what I heard-be very surprised (hope it happens and still time but I also don't expect the Harrison Twins to end up at Maryland like so many Terp fans do--and those 3 won't be going to same school--so I'm seeing Britt as a Terp).
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 31, 2011 9:03:36 GMT -5
Have fun in turgeons offense then. He doesn't exactly unleash the horses either.
Look we're going to run more. Saw it this year, will continue to do so. IIIs style is not so much slow it down but taking the best shot which can come 3 secs into the shot clock or 34. We should all know this. Perception has killed us not reality
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 31, 2011 10:44:19 GMT -5
Have fun in turgeons offense then. He doesn't exactly unleash the horses either. Look we're going to run more. Saw it this year, will continue to do so. IIIs style is not so much slow it down but taking the best shot which can come 3 secs into the shot clock or 34. We should all know this. Perception has killed us not reality Since perception is what influences people the most then the problem remains the same for III. Look...the offense did slow down again during BE play. Let's not sugarcoat it. In Monroe's final season the offense still clicked when the Hoyas were in conference play; last season it was the opposite, even when the Hoyas were on a winning streak. The fg% was strong but that was in large part to killing the clock. At least that's how I see it. Now some of you may run to one of those Hoya data sites to prove me wrong but you would be missing the point. The point is that if a die hard Hoya fan like myself who paid great attention to the team felt that way about the offense, than just imagine what some high school player, who is probably not keeping up with the Hoyas nearly as me, is thinking. III's offense is a joy to watch when it is played more uptempo. He shouldn't need a NBA lottery pick as a big man to make it that way. If he does well he needs to do a better job bringing in NBA quality big men (who can pass) every year.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 31, 2011 11:16:59 GMT -5
I get your point, but will counter that by saying the players slowed it down rather than slowing it down by design. We looked too methodical and didn't just "play." we're at our best when we play at a faster tempo. That fact is not lost on III. I'm not naive to the fact and I agree that the perception issue is a big big big issue (and wish it would change), but I don't agree with it being how we we're supposed to play. Hopefully this new crop will start to change some things
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 6, 2011 9:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 6, 2011 10:08:00 GMT -5
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 6, 2011 10:25:25 GMT -5
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 6, 2011 10:38:25 GMT -5
The WPost covers Britt more than any Redskin it seems. Durant, Beasley, Freeman, etc. didn't get this type of press so early on.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 6, 2011 12:02:24 GMT -5
I had a similar thought lol. Seems they're trying to show him the love locally so he doesn't head to tobacco road.
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Post by skyhoya on Aug 6, 2011 12:24:30 GMT -5
He might be better of going to tobacco road. How many guard have gone to the league under III? The Princeton is not an offense for a pint guard to shine.
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