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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 4, 2010 22:22:48 GMT -5
Georgetown has offered Rasheed Sulaimon ('12) a scholarship. He is also being recruited by UCLA and Louisville now.
Via twitter.
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 4, 2010 22:43:08 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 4, 2010 22:53:01 GMT -5
I just copied the tweet. You're right all the sights have him as a 12 and a quite highly rated one at that.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 5, 2010 6:02:06 GMT -5
Sounds like a clone of Jason Clark.
Wonder if JTIII will focus remaining 2 schollies on a 2012 PG/SG (e.g., Sulaimon, Robinson) and a 2012 SF (e.g., Anderson, Pollard) and move away from pursuing another big man, unless a schollie opens up from a transfer.
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Post by superan on Nov 5, 2010 9:28:49 GMT -5
Wonder if JTIII will focus remaining 2 schollies on a 2012 PG/SG (e.g., Sulaimon, Robinson) and a 2012 SF (e.g., Anderson, Pollard) and move away from pursuing another big man, unless a schollie opens up from a transfer. I think this makes the most sense but if someone like Ochefu signals his interest, I think you have to take him.
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Post by chep3 on Nov 5, 2010 9:45:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with superan. I think you have to take a wing, no matter what. After that, I think you take the higher rated big or the higher rated pg. PGs probably more of a need in 2012 given that we'd have a Jr. Markel and a Sr. Vee, but I think if someone like Ochefu wanted to come, you'd take him and ride Markel the year after with a Fr. recruit having to spell him in limited minutes.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 5, 2010 9:53:56 GMT -5
It is why I believe Anderson becomes such an important recruit for us - he is a wing who has PG skills. Signing him fills both gaps and frees up space to make a huge push for Ochefu, without worrying as much about backcourt depth.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 5, 2010 10:54:38 GMT -5
My ideal 13-man roster has 5 bigs. In the 2012-13 season, we'd have four: Lubick (jr); Ayegba (jr); Hopkins (so); Adams(so); Bolden (fr), barring no attrition.
That theoretical has 4-5 guards [Sanford (sr), Starks (jr), Trawick (so)], , including 2 PGs (Starks, Sanford) and another with "emergency ablity". It's imperative we get a 2012 PG and even arguable that the other player should be a wing more towards guard than not. Factor in the possibility of attrition, and you can see an issue here. Can you really count on Bowen swinging to the 2?
The ideal roster to me has 2-3 SF-type wings [Thompson (sr), Benimon (sr), Bowen (jr)]. There's some need for some succession planning on the wing.
I can actually see a pretty strong case for taking a 2011 PG. Our history points to a decent amount of transfers.
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Post by chep3 on Nov 5, 2010 11:43:53 GMT -5
Yeah SF, I guess I'm envisioning bothTrawick and Bowen being 2/3 type guys. And for the record, I think we'd be good to go with that particular roster. The issue for me would come the year afterwards, when Vee would leave, and Markel would be the lone 1 on the roster, and we'd presumably have a freshman recruit who would be the primary backup. I guess Ranch is right in theory, that if we had Anderson, that issue could be mitigated.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 5, 2010 13:10:38 GMT -5
Yeah SF, I guess I'm envisioning bothTrawick and Bowen being 2/3 type guys. And for the record, I think we'd be good to go with that particular roster. The issue for me would come the year afterwards, when Vee would leave, and Markel would be the lone 1 on the roster, and we'd presumably have a freshman recruit who would be the primary backup. I guess Ranch is right in theory, that if we had Anderson, that issue could be mitigated. I guess in general I'm extremely skeptical of players moving up the skill spectrum of positions (i.e. from 3 to 2, 2 to 1, etc.) while jumping difficulty levels. It happens when a player is playing down simply because of height -- so it's not unheard of -- but I simply don't expect Bowen to be able to be an effective 2 or Anderson really to be a PG instead of a PF until I see it. Anderson I'm really skeptical of, simply because can you see him staying in front of Maalik Wayns or someone like that? Now, if you mean Anderson is going to alleviate the pressure on a ballhandler, allowing us to play two combos, I get that. But Trawick's not really a combo, from most reports. It's not like when we could get by with 3 combos all sort of sharing the point. I wouldn't be shocked to see a PG in '11 because of this, and it's a must in '12. And transfers are a big problem, as well as other issues (which may be why we're on likely spring-signee Otto).
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Post by chep3 on Nov 5, 2010 13:26:01 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I didn't mean Anderson would be playing the 1 defensively, more that he would share the ballhandling load. We'd still have to put a Fr. guard out there most likely in the times that Markel would be resting, but at least that guard wouldn't be the only ballhandler. Like you, I'm not confident an Anderson, Bowen, Trawick 1-3 lineup would work that well.
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Post by idhoya on Nov 5, 2010 13:38:57 GMT -5
What have we seen from JB that projects him a SF? He wont look at the basket outside of 5 feet. His handle is decent for an undersized PF, but for all of his hustle and effort; he is not a BE level player. Too many people are mistaking his activity for achievement.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 5, 2010 13:55:38 GMT -5
What have we seen from JB that projects him a SF? He wont look at the basket outside of 5 feet. His handle is decent for an undersized PF, but for all of his hustle and effort; he is not a BE level player. Too many people are mistaking his activity for achievement. Well, he's certainly not a big. He has no low post game, doesn't rebound and can't defend fours. So he's a three to me. Benimon could develop, but I'm with you. I find his PT inexplicable in the Nikita sense -- I get that he does as he's told, but there's no positives there. He wasn't good at anything last year. I don't get the massive crush half the board has for him (is it simply because he's built and works hard? I mean, muscles and hustle is all you need?). But he's on the team, and if to my mind, if he's going to develop into an effective player, it's as a Jaron Brown-style three.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 5, 2010 14:37:02 GMT -5
I don't think anyone on the board predicts stardom or all-BE status for Benimon, and almost all would agree that he has a long way to go to be a strong and consistent contributor. That being said, I also think that anyone who claims with any certainty that he is not a Big East-level player, after only one season as a freshman, is really jumping the gun. It may end up as the truth, it maybe more likely than not, but you simply can't guarantee something like that with a young kid. Maybe let's see what development he makes from last season to this one before branding him as a bust?
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Post by thejerseytornado on Nov 5, 2010 14:57:27 GMT -5
Benimon had the type of hustle and desire that some people complained about the Hoyas lacking. When he was in the game, he was going to try to get the ball, try to get the rebound, try to make a play.
He was not as successful as we need at doing that. But there was little doubting his drive. There was serious reason to doubt the Hoyas' drive after the previous season. Seeing that type of commitment was great.
After a couple games, he stopped hustling as much on offense because his confidence seemed shaky on that end of the floor. hopefully that doesn't happen again + he can provide a nice occasional bucket.
Me? I'm hoping for a Tyler Crawford like role. Not necessarily a major rotation guy, but someone who seems to always do something positive when it's needed to spark the team. That said, if he improves, he could also get minutes. He's the ideal basis for becoming a "glue guy" as a junior or senior. That's exciting.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 5, 2010 15:28:55 GMT -5
Tyler Crawford was much more skilled than Benimon, and even he got minimal minutes except for a short time period.
I'm not writing off Benimon, either. He's young and I see some potential. But he was not good last year. He was completely ineffective and if the Sophomore version of Benimon is similar to the freshman version, and he plays big minutes, this team is in real trouble.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 5, 2010 15:31:13 GMT -5
I don't get the massive crush half the board has for him (is it simply because he's built and works hard? I mean, muscles and hustle is all you need?). It's the black shoes. ;D
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Post by prhoya on Nov 5, 2010 16:09:04 GMT -5
JB played 12 mins per game last year. It's good experience for this year and, in that sense, he's ahead of Sims, Nate and Moses. I'm thinking JB gets about the same amount this year as part of the "4" committee. With the opportunity to play a lot of miutes, I really feel Nate will be part of the BE ROY talk.
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Post by Highsmith on Nov 6, 2010 11:18:19 GMT -5
I hope Nate and Henry can some how form a strong enough 4 duo that Benimon doesn't need to play 10+ minutes per game. I agree with the members of the board that see him as good guy who works hard but doesn't (to this point) have the skills to be a BE player for more than 2-3 minutes a game. That could change, but unless he grows a few inches to play the 4 or develops a solid outside shot to play the 3.....I don't see it.
Back to the thread at hand.....Rasheed looks like another solid prospect for the 2012 class. I'd still like to see Kyle Anderson as target #1 for 2012 and with Bolden already locked up and a seeming need for a PG, I don't know how likely a guy like this ends up with us. Things happen and maybe we will have more openings, but based on the current roster, I'd like to see a PG and a SF type be our next two signings. I agree if Ochefu wants to come, we pretty much have to take him, but given we will have Lubick, Moses, Adams, Hopkins and Bolden.....all seemingly talented guys....and Ochefu signing is really going to turn into a situation where 1-2 guys are going to be forced out of playing time no matter how good everyone is. Maybe Hopkins or Bolden can swing to the 3 spot. These are all pretty good "problems" to have and many of them are perceived "problems" at this point anyway as things tend to work themselves out--I doubt we will have too many high level players languishing on the bench with no playing time when it comes to the time everyone is here!
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Post by hoyawatcher on Nov 10, 2010 11:13:40 GMT -5
Add GT to the list offering Sulaimon
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