prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 2, 2010 12:37:19 GMT -5
You're probably right, Dan. I thought I read it somewhere, but cannot find it.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 2, 2010 13:45:04 GMT -5
The big kid from Penn's woods is a must. We have a lot of bangers but this kid is an immediate star. We are after him and I am sure JT3 told him he is the crown jewel of the last 3 classes of big men. He is the one who will play right away no matter how deep we are up front.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 3, 2010 11:07:20 GMT -5
I would take another guy like Benimon in a heartbeat. He is a player and I hope he gets serious time this year and in the future.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 3, 2010 12:10:14 GMT -5
Take another Benny? Why, he is not a major D1 player. We need to have less of Benny's and Wattad's playing major minutes for us. When they are in your rotation you know we are in trouble.
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superan
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Post by superan on Nov 3, 2010 13:11:04 GMT -5
Anderson and Ochefu.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 3, 2010 14:46:36 GMT -5
How is Benimon not a major D1 player? He is an excellent rebounder and a solid defender inside who has proven to be able to chip in a few scrappy points. We need guys like that on our roster. If he continues to work and improve, he could be a major factor- and without necessarily scoring much. I will take a guy who gets six point, seven or more boards, who boxes out his man on every possession, who sets good screens, etc. If the staff can grab another guy like that, they should take him.
There is no comparison between Benimon and Wattad.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 3, 2010 14:55:30 GMT -5
Right now benimon is Rivers. No offense. He has a chance to change that though.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 3, 2010 15:21:00 GMT -5
Grab another unranked kid? No thanks. He is a product of a bad recruiting season. We take another flier on a kid like him and we are in the tail end of yet another bad recruiting year so be careful what you ask for.
Bronxie is sure Benny is an awesome kid but he is not someone who should be in a rotation in high D1. Sorry if you cant see that.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 3, 2010 15:50:21 GMT -5
I guess we see different things when we watch Benimon, or perhaps we have different perspectives on basketball. I think that a player can be limited offensively (which Benimon is, for now) and still be very productive- Boubacar Aw is an example of someone who did not score much until the very end of his career, but who was a four-year starter and a VERY valuable player.
Benimon is no Boubacar- I only wish; maybe he could be more of a Don Reid- but he is still a solid player, and the staff should not hesitate to offer scholarships to guys like that.
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aristides
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Post by aristides on Nov 3, 2010 16:23:30 GMT -5
My guess is that we're going to see more of Benimon than most people anticipate. He certainly isn't going to wow you with his offense, but he has showed good potential in two areas, rebounding and defense. And what are the two main concerns going into this year for the Hoyas? Yup, rebounding and defense. I don't think JTIII will be worried about where the offense is coming from. I'm looking forward to seeing Benimon develop more. He really goes after it.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Nov 3, 2010 16:29:58 GMT -5
Hate to weigh in on this again, but I think Jerelle is a very valuable component of a successful team, but not one who needs to be replicated. His energy and determination were valuable last year and overcame his offensive liabilities. Another poster noted that his overall contribution was about the same regardless of whether he played 4 minutes or 10 minutes. I understand that view. While he is important a second Jerelle would not have any value on a team that has just added a project in Moses and a banger in Lubick, as well as the two recruits for next year. Where would another role player fit into the post line-up. It seems to me that what would be best is to add another "small" forward or point forward who can bring length to the perimeter and hit the outside shot.
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 3, 2010 16:46:45 GMT -5
We shouldn't have to recruit guys that aren't very talented (like Benimon) to find energy.
I have no problem recruiting guys that are limited offensively, but not when they are 6'6" power forwards that aren't particularly good at anything. And no, he wasn't a good rebounder last year.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 3, 2010 18:41:56 GMT -5
I guess we see different things when we watch Benimon, or perhaps we have different perspectives on basketball. I think that a player can be limited offensively (which Benimon is, for now) and still be very productive- Boubacar Aw is an example of someone who did not score much until the very end of his career, but who was a four-year starter and a VERY valuable player. Benimon is no Boubacar- I only wish; maybe he could be more of a Don Reid- but he is still a solid player, and the staff should not hesitate to offer scholarships to guys like that. So far, JB has not been an excellent rebounder. He had 2 rpg/12mpg as part of an average rebounding team. I'm rooting for the kid, but he hasn't shown excellent rebounding skills yet. It's like saying Sims is a good perimeter shooter for a big man. He might have been in high school, but he has not shown it in college. Same goes for: Jeremiah Rivers has a great bball IQ; or that Nikita is an awesome 3-point shooter. Prove it during games, the rest is hype. Aw was not a 4-year starter. If JB progresses as Reid did, then GU is very close to a championship.
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royski
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Post by royski on Nov 3, 2010 20:34:56 GMT -5
I think Jerelle is exactly the kind of guy we should be recruiting for those 8th-10th man roles. This program has had a serious problem with transfers that has robbed it of experienced depth, especially in the post. (Whether we have this problem MORE than other schools or not is irrelevant) Benimonster seems like just the sort of player who will be happy filling a role for 4 years. Given that he gave us meaningful minutes as a freshman in the Big East, I believe he will be a solid contributor and someone we can really rely on to provide a steady presence when we get into foul trouble once he's an upperclassman. There is nothing wrong with recruiting those sort of players. I'd rather have a Jerelle than a Sims to be honest.
Onto the thread topic. Ochefu and Anderson would obviously be a dream come true. Let's keep the momentum rolling JT3! I'm sorry I doubted your abilities to land a solid 2011 class in that other thread!
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paranoia2
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Post by paranoia2 on Nov 3, 2010 23:19:42 GMT -5
Benimon has sack and made a positive impact on a number of games. JB could def see minutes on an elite level team and be what JT 2 would refer to as a "stabilizer". Roles that Ralph Dalton, Ed Spriggs, Mike Hancock, Bobby Winston, Cheik YaYa Dia and even Freddie Brown senior year filled in the past. Guys that wouldn't light up the box score but they would get after it and not be afraid to mix it up.
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