EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 30, 2012 8:09:50 GMT -5
Let's face it, among our best "recruits" this year may be Moses and Tyler.
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 30, 2012 8:54:15 GMT -5
Anyway, Georgetown's value add is supposed to be that we can take big kids with potential and turn them into studs. At least, that's what Hoyatalk seems to have convinced itself throughout the last few recruitments. Not every player on the team needs to be a high-flyer/shotblocker... some kids who play away from the basket are ok too. I don't mind a below-the-rim type like Meeks or Adams if he's paired up with an athletic run-the-floor type like Ayegba or maybe Hayes. Balance is good. But we're not going to get many players who enter Georgetown as near-finished products ready for the league. We're going to get kids who show promise in some areas and are weak in others, and our staff has to fill int he gaps and make those players into pros. That's what we want the world (and recruits) to think we do, and that's what we actually HAVE TO do. Whether that's taking a kid like Hayes who can run and jump but lacks skills and teaching him how to play the game, or taking a kid like Meeks who has some skills and getting him into shape/teaching him how to use his girth to his advantage... these are the types of kids we're going to get, and we have to be able to fill in the gaps and churn out finished products. If we can't do that, the value added by our coaching staff is minimal and I'm not sure exactly what we're selling kids on to come here over a UK or an SU or whoever. Agree with everything except for the last sentence - we're basically losing the finished projects to UK and Syracuse already. If we can't do what you're saying and go the RDF route - throw up our hands and say that because Austin Freeman wasn't in shape that we can never get a kid to follow a diet and lose weight and improve their conditioning - then what the hell exactly is our recruiting pitch? If we have to depend on only the fall-through-the-cracks-but-should-have-been-a-blue-chipper crowd - then we'll maybe have one recruit a year. When Roy Hibbert was recruited, we had a guy on the board saying he couldn't play for Cornell because he was too slow and out of shape. How'd that work out? High skill players with a lack of conditioning should be our bread and butter. And Ed - this kid is class of 2013, not sure why you are decrying our class of 2012 in this thread. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 30, 2012 9:34:37 GMT -5
Let's face it, among our best "recruits" this year may be Moses and Tyler. Moses already had a full year in the program before he was hurt, so while we have high hopes for what he can contribute, he certainly can't be seen as a "recruit". |
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 30, 2012 10:08:36 GMT -5
Do I have to explain why I put the term recruits in parens?
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Post by hoopsmccan on Apr 30, 2012 10:28:56 GMT -5
Do I have to explain why I put the term recruits in parens? I understood why you put it in quotes; parens would have confused me. hm |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 30, 2012 11:10:48 GMT -5
Do I have to explain why I put the term recruits in parens? No. do I? |
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Post by RDF on Apr 30, 2012 11:13:06 GMT -5
Anyway, Georgetown's value add is supposed to be that we can take big kids with potential and turn them into studs. At least, that's what Hoyatalk seems to have convinced itself throughout the last few recruitments. Not every player on the team needs to be a high-flyer/shotblocker... some kids who play away from the basket are ok too. I don't mind a below-the-rim type like Meeks or Adams if he's paired up with an athletic run-the-floor type like Ayegba or maybe Hayes. Balance is good. But we're not going to get many players who enter Georgetown as near-finished products ready for the league. We're going to get kids who show promise in some areas and are weak in others, and our staff has to fill int he gaps and make those players into pros. That's what we want the world (and recruits) to think we do, and that's what we actually HAVE TO do. Whether that's taking a kid like Hayes who can run and jump but lacks skills and teaching him how to play the game, or taking a kid like Meeks who has some skills and getting him into shape/teaching him how to use his girth to his advantage... these are the types of kids we're going to get, and we have to be able to fill in the gaps and churn out finished products. If we can't do that, the value added by our coaching staff is minimal and I'm not sure exactly what we're selling kids on to come here over a UK or an SU or whoever. Agree with everything except for the last sentence - we're basically losing the finished projects to UK and Syracuse already. If we can't do what you're saying and go the RDF route - throw up our hands and say that because Austin Freeman wasn't in shape that we can never get a kid to follow a diet and lose weight and improve their conditioning - then what the hell exactly is our recruiting pitch? If we have to depend on only the fall-through-the-cracks-but-should-have-been-a-blue-chipper crowd - then we'll maybe have one recruit a year. When Roy Hibbert was recruited, we had a guy on the board saying he couldn't play for Cornell because he was too slow and out of shape. How'd that work out? High skill players with a lack of conditioning should be our bread and butter. And Ed - this kid is class of 2013, not sure why you are decrying our class of 2012 in this thread. Not what I said at all-I said why should we believe that Meeks will be pushed to get into shape? Freeman, Vaughn, and Lubick haven't been, so this will change because?? It's stupid to compare a 6'8 kid to a 7'2 guy with skill. You take a chance on Roy Hibbert--a guy who III admitted when he took the job that he likely wouldn't have recruited if you remember, because of his skill/size--question is if you have similar options--and one kid is in shape/other isn't--do you? I've seen Meeks play and other kids Georgetown is involved with-and if you take Meeks, you have to make sure other parts are there because if you rely on him as your big--you won't be able to stop anyone and points in paint will be tough to get because he struggles against size/athleticism. |
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Post by whatrocks33 on May 3, 2012 8:58:29 GMT -5
from CBSSports, Meeks is looking to trim his list down to five in the coming weeks.
"I'm looking for a good team that focuses on defense and a good coaching staff that is family first."
He claims no favorites yet but has already made five visits (including us) and looks to visit Louisville, too. Even though schools like UCLA and Stanford are recruiting him, I think he keeps it on the East Coast. I'd look for his five to include us, Louisville, UNC, NC State and Maryland. Growing up in North Carolina, Meeks might be an ACC lean but we stand as good a chance as anyone.
(http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/18942865/notebook-jabari-bird-has-five-standing-out)
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Post by idhoya on May 3, 2012 14:23:07 GMT -5
hoyas vs. unc in the end
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Post by RDF on May 3, 2012 14:38:14 GMT -5
I'd watch for NC State to surpass UNC--they showed/have shown lukewarm interest in Meeks and are loaded with frontcourt bigs who are long term/4 year guys. They are looking for NBA caliber big--Julius Randle had their eye at EYBL session I was at--while NC State went to every Meeks game and was eye balling him hard at Boo Williams sessions as well.
Louisville could make a move for him too.
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Post by tonyparker on May 3, 2012 18:16:04 GMT -5
Haha, I dunno RDF. Sounds like UNC offered him last night. twitter.com/#!/scoutsfocus/status/198187579189903360 My guess is he will be a Tar Heel. And soon. |
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Post by kghoya on May 3, 2012 18:27:10 GMT -5
when i saw him in dec he basically said he was waiting for unc to offer
if they have, he's a tar heel
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Post by RDF on May 4, 2012 0:04:27 GMT -5
I was wrong--stilll dont' get it with the 4 yr bigs they have--James, Johnson, Hubert, but they might see him as a possible Sean May and he's got ACC type of game, so happy for him if that's offer he's been waiting on him.
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Post by whatrocks33 on May 5, 2012 10:59:00 GMT -5
UNC is stingy with offers. If he really has one on the table, they're serious and will be be tough to beat out
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Post by ottomatic on May 5, 2012 11:48:22 GMT -5
Don't think Meeks really fits into the fast paced game UNC plays, good kid though
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Post by Yaboynyp on May 18, 2012 12:57:35 GMT -5
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Post by Yaboynyp on Jul 3, 2012 13:07:43 GMT -5
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Post by Problem of Dog on Jul 3, 2012 15:17:24 GMT -5
Can we change this thread title to "Kenya Hunter '13"?
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Post by harlemhoya on Jul 9, 2012 22:38:33 GMT -5
Eric Bossi @ebosshoops
Watched Kennedy Meeks closely the past couple days. Saw a lot of things with his game that hadn't registered w/me before. Good camp for him.
@ebosshoops Meeks is perfect for the Georgetown system. #HOYAS
@rahmdiggy Definitely agree that a system that allows for him to get set up and involves a lot of offense through posts suits him.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 9, 2012 23:26:47 GMT -5
Since when has feeding the post been our strong suit?
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