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Post by LizziebethHoya on Mar 27, 2012 13:46:38 GMT -5
No clue why Tweets/Facebook messages haven't been explicitly included on that list, or at least included in the definition of a text message? Seems like a major loophole right now
And, on second thought...besides it being used to try to influence the recruit, isn't it bothersome to the recruit as well? Honestly, leave the high school kids alone. Noel must get a zillion twitter notifications each day?
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 27, 2012 13:50:23 GMT -5
I am assuming the NCAA regulations do not have precise definitions of "e-mails" or "text messages" that may or may not include tweets or Facebook msgs?
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 27, 2012 13:53:02 GMT -5
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Post by DudeSlade on Mar 27, 2012 14:01:05 GMT -5
I am assuming the NCAA regulations do not have precise definitions of "e-mails" or "text messages" that may or may not include tweets or Facebook msgs? I guess the difference to me is that emails and text messages require getting moderately private contact information in terms of an email address or cell phone number, whereas Facebook and especially Twitter are a very public forum and form of contact. I wonder what the difference really is between a Tweet and a sign at a basketball game they attend, which is done all the time. Both are public and can easily be ignored if the recruit wants to. I definitely think it's too much for people to be tweeting a 17-18 year old kid to try to influence where he's going to college, but the whole recruiting game seems to have taken on a circus type atmosphere. Grown men make their living by establishing relationships with various recruits just to report their every whim of where they could go to school to info-starved masses of fans. When you really think about that, it's a bit strange. And I fall victim to being part of that info-starved mass of fans as much as the next person. On the other hand, it would be crazy to have a school punished because an alum got excited and tweeted a kid. I don't know where the line is. I think the NCAA is going to need to completely overhaul recruiting rules in the very near future. The rules just seem arbitrary and there are too many loopholes.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 27, 2012 14:03:27 GMT -5
It may get a bit annoying to him but it also shows that there are lots of GTOWN fans out there that are dying to have him on the squad amongst the millions of tweets he gets from Syracuse and Kentucky fans.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 27, 2012 14:08:09 GMT -5
UK would be banned from the NCAA for life if they actually gave a EDITED about people tweeting at recruits. Honestly, the amount of tweets etc that recruits get from Gtown fans has to vastly pail in comparison to the bigger state schools and particularly UK. I agree that it is absurd and I would tire of this fast, but alot of kids savor the "love" they get and often times does sway their opinion i'm sure.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 27, 2012 14:32:02 GMT -5
No clue why Tweets/Facebook messages haven't been explicitly included on that list, or at least included in the definition of a text message? Seems like a major loophole right now And, on second thought...besides it being used to try to influence the recruit, isn't it bothersome to the recruit as well? Honestly, leave the high school kids alone. Noel must get a zillion twitter notifications each day? Mostly because the NCAA can't come anywhere close to enforcing what they've already got on the books, nevermind trying to police even more--especially something as nebulous as "social media". In general all contact between alumni/fans and recruits is off limits but in practice there are just way too many recruits, fans, and media by which they can connect for the NCAA to come anywhere close to getting their arms around it. Same idea with hanging signs and banners around campus or cheering for a recruit at a game or a function like MM or Selection Show. All of that is technically a violation, but its so ubiquitous today that they can't really police it. You could argue that if they cracked down on a few fans/schools they could make an example and most others would stop and there'd be more self-policing. But then you run the risk that people actually pose as fans of other schools in an attempt to get their competitors in trouble. For example, what stops a Cuse fan from posing as a Georgetown fan on twitter or making a dummy fb account with some ripped off picture of a guy in a WAG shirt and spamming Nerlens about being a Hoya in an attempt to get our school in trouble? Or coming to our campus and hanging up posters/flyers/banners that would incriminate us? The NCAA wouldn't really be able to punish anyone unless they did a pretty extensive investigation to determine that the violator was a booster of that program, and its all just way beyond the scope of what they're equipped to do. They can't even stop the coaches like Calipari or Calhoun who not-so-secretly arrange for thousands of dollars to be delivered to people who can influence recruits. They can't crackdown on the Cam Newton's of the world who out and out say things to people like "The money at Auburn is just too much." They're verrrryyyyy close to complete incompetence. No chance they could go FBI on some random kid who spams a recruit telling him to go to a certain school. And thus, it will persist. I am not as convinced as some of you that kids will just blow it off though. Easy for us old folks to say, but there are no doubt a lot of 16 and 17 year olds out there who relish the attention and let it influence their decision. I never really understand why some random 16 year old from the burbs thinks that posting "GO TO UK!" or "GO TO DUKE WE NEED YOU!" is going to actually do something--like Nerlens Noel is going to read it and think "Well, if Mark Collier thinks they need me, guess I'd really better take that into account." But on aggregate, size of fanbase and how much "love" a recruit feels from a fan base does play in in many cases. Believe the top football recruit in the country, when he made his choice a month or two ago, cited all the fans at Mizzou cheering so loudly for him at a basketball game as one of the big reasons he chose them (yes, he was also in-state). I don't advocate it, it's not a factor with all kids and it's not a sure thing--UK fans were bad about it when they had Gillespie too and it wasn't helping them then. But I do think people who blow it off and say "it's probably just annoying (the recruit)" are kidding themselves in many cases. Not to say NN is one.
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Post by Admin on Mar 27, 2012 14:34:45 GMT -5
Let's be REAL clear about this.
Readers of this board are "athletic interests" of Georgetown University by NCAA rules. If you contact a prospect by any means, you can and will be reported to Georgetown University for their follow-up and you lose posting privileges on this board.
Do not post to social media sites of recruits. It's that simple.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 27, 2012 14:51:41 GMT -5
^ Wow! That's crazy. So I should go buy a Syracuse hat & take a picture of me handing one of their players a new pair of Jordans..
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Post by chep3 on Mar 27, 2012 14:54:12 GMT -5
^ Wow! That's crazy. So I should go buy a Syracuse hat & take a picture of me handing one of their players a new pair of Jordans.. Yes.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 27, 2012 15:00:00 GMT -5
Get this done. Just send NN a photo of Patrick, Alonzo, Dikembe, Greg and Roy on a court, in Georgetown practice jerseys, staring at the camera with their most intense glares, with a simple caption: "You got next". Just to be clear - my thought was that this would come from the staff with a legitimate recruiting letter or similar contact.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 27, 2012 15:02:21 GMT -5
Edited. If you have a issue or problem with the topic referenced above, contact the Admin.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 27, 2012 15:05:58 GMT -5
Get this done. Just send NN a photo of Patrick, Alonzo, Dikembe, Greg and Roy on a court, in Georgetown practice jerseys, staring at the camera with their most intense glares, with a simple caption: "You got next". Already been done. Syracuse sends recruits a photo of Laurie Fine in nohing but a Syracuse jersey, starting at the camera with a seductive glare, with a simple caption: "She's Got Next."
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 27, 2012 15:17:15 GMT -5
Get this done. Just send NN a photo of Patrick, Alonzo, Dikembe, Greg and Roy on a court, in Georgetown practice jerseys, staring at the camera with their most intense glares, with a simple caption: "You got next". Already been done. Syracuse sends recruits a photo of Laurie Fine in nohing but a Syracuse jersey, starting at the camera with a seductive glare, with a simple caption: "She's Got Next." Would seem to me that this would be more effective for any school recruiting AGAINST Syracuse.(XXXL jersey I presume??)
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Post by swhoya on Mar 27, 2012 17:48:55 GMT -5
Let's be REAL clear about this.
Readers of this board are "athletic interests" of Georgetown University by NCAA rules. If you contact a prospect by any means, you can and will be reported to Georgetown University for their follow-up and you lose posting privileges on this board.
Do not post to social media sites of recruits. It's that simple. This is, in a word, dumb. On the part of the NCAA, not board moderators. Of all the shady crap that can and does occur, the NCAA should really be concerned with random fans/yahoos, with no official authority with a school, that are sending tweets to top recruits. Because us keyboard junkies are really going to persuade him. The NCAA is just a joke.
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Post by CaliHoya on Mar 27, 2012 18:53:46 GMT -5
If anything is a violation, it's a current Syracuse player tweeting Nerlens, right? It does give light on the fact that Nerlens still hasn't decided:
Michael Carter-Willi @mjcwilliams Lol he's still torn but I'm trying!!! Lol @nerlensnoel3 lol lets goooo or my sister will beat u
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 27, 2012 19:08:28 GMT -5
If anything is a violation, it's a current Syracuse player tweeting Nerlens, right? It does give light on the fact that Nerlens still hasn't decided: Michael Carter-Willi @mjcwilliams Lol he's still torn but I'm trying!!! Lol @nerlensnoel3 lol lets goooo or my sister will beat u Since MCW is his buddy, I'm more than willing to shrug this one off as the least of Syracuse's problems.
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Post by hoyasexy on Mar 27, 2012 21:08:42 GMT -5
If anything is a violation, it's a current Syracuse player tweeting Nerlens, right? It does give light on the fact that Nerlens still hasn't decided: Michael Carter-Willi @mjcwilliams Lol he's still torn but I'm trying!!! Lol @nerlensnoel3 lol lets goooo or my sister will beat u Probably not the best point to make. Hasn't there been some reference to Jabril doing the same thing?
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Post by tonyparker on Mar 27, 2012 22:03:58 GMT -5
A lot of smoke is starting to build around Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, and Anthony Bennett all committing to Kentucky the second week of April on ESPNU. Would be a pretty impressive front court, smh.
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Post by swhoya on Mar 27, 2012 22:05:47 GMT -5
A lot of smoke is starting to build around Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, and Anthony Bennett all committing to Kentucky the second week of April on ESPNU. Would be a pretty impressive front court, smh. Alright, I'm as guilty of riding the roller coaster as the next guy, but can we all just agree no one has a clue where he's going until we know? I mean, there's been "smoke" for us, Syracuse, UK, and back again.
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