KirbyKeger
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Post by KirbyKeger on Apr 10, 2012 13:02:54 GMT -5
It has to be really tough for Nerlens. If he doesn't choose Kentucky, he knows all of his peers will be calling him crazy and questioning his choice. At the same time, if he doesn't choose us, he could be making his mother unhappy. I think he is genuinely very torn, and if he individually likes Kentucky more than us, I doubt its by much. Hopefully that gap would be small enough for his mother to change his mind.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 10, 2012 13:04:00 GMT -5
Reading Noel's blog, I actually feel good about our chances. It sounds like the visit to Georgetown was very important to Noel, he called us a "great option," and acknowledged Georgetown's history in developing big men. Can we really ask for more? While I don't know the extent of the day-to-day contact between Georgetown's coaches and staff over the last several months, it's hard to believe that we could have done anything differently that would have better positioned us for getting Noel. If we get him, it will be great. If not, it will be disappointing, but I think we can be comfortable knowing we did all that we can do. This is exactly what I will find extremely frustrating if he doesn't pick us (as some have already guessed is a done deal) because he has been public in singing Gtown's praises and understands exactly what we can do for him. Look UK isn't a "bad" choice no matter how bad we want him due to exposure, but all things considered he gets what Georgetown is all about. I don't know the kid, am not a recruiting guru, etc etc, I Just get the feeling if this was an equal fair fight we'd feel pretty good about that announcement tomorrow. If he does what many think and the why (aka SHOE WARS/Runners, agents etc) it will make me sick. That's why this recruitment resonates with me personally so much. It's one thing if he didn't have a personal blog where I see first hand how much he gets what Gtown can offer and I have to just think oh well I guess what we offer didn't click with him. It's just frustrating to see the underbelly of the beast in recruiting if you will.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 10, 2012 13:04:05 GMT -5
From Source about 10 minutes ago (shred away Brasky "Dorcina pushing for Georgetown hard. JT3 made last pitch to her primarily, more so than to Nerlens." From Source, video of JT3 talking to Dorcina @ 8:30:
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 10, 2012 13:07:40 GMT -5
From Source about 10 minutes ago (shred away Brasky "Dorcina pushing for Georgetown hard. JT3 made last pitch to her primarily, more so than to Nerlens." smart man! Thata boy III. Will keep reiterating even after a decision that may not go our way, the staff did a great job here
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Apr 10, 2012 13:25:30 GMT -5
From Source about 10 minutes ago (shred away Brasky "Dorcina pushing for Georgetown hard. JT3 made last pitch to her primarily, more so than to Nerlens." smart man! Thata boy III. Will keep reiterating even after a decision that may not go our way, the staff did a great job here Agreed.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Apr 10, 2012 13:29:26 GMT -5
It has to be really tough for Nerlens. If he doesn't choose Kentucky, he knows all of his peers will be calling him crazy and questioning his choice. At the same time, if he doesn't choose us, he could be making his mother unhappy. I think he is genuinely very torn, and if he individually likes Kentucky more than us, I doubt its by much. Hopefully that gap would be small enough for his mother to change his mind. I hear what you are saying, but it's pretty crazy that we have that perspective. Basically, the guy is choosing where he can go on a one year sabbatical where people will kiss his butt all day every day, and the tough choice is where he will be loved the most.
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CaliHoya
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Post by CaliHoya on Apr 10, 2012 13:39:41 GMT -5
From Source about 10 minutes ago (shred away Brasky "Dorcina pushing for Georgetown hard. JT3 made last pitch to her primarily, more so than to Nerlens." If this is the case, and she actually will have to sign off on the decision, you have to feel like we're in decent shape. JT3 is a smart one - he knows our strengths play best to the parents.
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Apr 10, 2012 13:53:16 GMT -5
maybe we should have Jeff Green's Mom give Dorcina a call, explain how it feels when the Hoya faithful cheer your name in a packed arena.
I didn't hear any "Anthony Davis's Mom" chants in N'awlins, just sayin...
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Post by daymondmyles on Apr 10, 2012 13:53:19 GMT -5
The part of his blog that alarms me is that he views Syracuse as a "family atmosphere". What family has rampant drug use, child molesters, and multiple people that abuse women? Not one that I'd view as a positive at least.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Apr 10, 2012 13:56:06 GMT -5
Not Dorcina's!!!
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Post by swhoya on Apr 10, 2012 14:06:55 GMT -5
The part of his blog that alarms me is that he views Syracuse as a "family atmosphere". What family has rampant drug use, child molesters, and multiple people that abuse women? Not one that I'd view as a positive at least. You misunderstand him. He meant Family in the mafia sense. They have all those things.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 10, 2012 14:07:45 GMT -5
We have to keep in mind that this is an 18 year old making a decision. While I think Georgetown is the best choice for Noel and Georgetown would give him the best training and experiences before going into the NBA, we are looking at this from a much different perspective than Noel. As much as many of us might have disdain for Calipari, I don't think it's totally unreasonable for a star 18 year old player to strongly consider them and possibly choose them.
Really, think back to your own college decision, even if you weren't a basketball recruit. Why did you choose Georgetown or your college? Looking back, we might say we picked Georgetown because it was a great academic school in a great city with tons of opportunities. Sure, some of us may have had those thoughts when we were 17 or 18, but I bet there are plenty of people in this board who chose their college for a variety of reasons that may not fully seem rational now. Think about it this way - there are very intelligent teens who pick their college because of a significant other (who they almost never end up marrying). That is no less irrational than going somewhere because your friends are there or because the team just won a national championship.
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Apr 10, 2012 14:18:56 GMT -5
How much development comes from one year with a program? IF NN goes the UK route, chances are he will learn quickly the path to success in the NBA comes from the hard work you put in during the first few summers in the league. And it is a good chance he will be doing that training in DC, with many of the local pros.
Would just be nice for him to be a Hoya for years to come.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 10, 2012 14:26:57 GMT -5
We have to keep in mind that this is an 18 year old making a decision. While I think Georgetown is the best choice for Noel and Georgetown would give him the best training and experiences before going into the NBA, we are looking at this from a much different perspective than Noel. As much as many of us might have disdain for Calipari, I don't think it's totally unreasonable for a star 18 year old player to strongly consider them and possibly choose them. Really, think back to your own college decision, even if you weren't a basketball recruit. Why did you choose Georgetown or your college? Looking back, we might say we picked Georgetown because it was a great academic school in a great city with tons of opportunities. Sure, some of us may have had those thoughts when we were 17 or 18, but I bet there are plenty of people in this board who chose their college for a variety of reasons that may not fully seem rational now. Think about it this way - there are very intelligent teens who pick their college because of a significant other (who they almost never end up marrying). That is no less irrational than going somewhere because your friends are there or because the team just won a national championship. Most major decisions are made on feel/emotional factors, not just ones by 18 year olds. There's a lot literature on this. Undoubtedly, some of that gut instinct is a subconscious/conscious incorporation of rational facts, but often it's just what you want to do.
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Post by CaliHoya on Apr 10, 2012 14:28:10 GMT -5
I guess one of the reasons I am following this so closely is because superstar talent can go a long way. Ewing and Mourning STILL clearly benefit our program thanks to their fantastic NBA careers. I feel Noel may end up having a similar All-Star career, so it'd be great to have him as a Hoya even if his college career is just a year.
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Post by rpn6 on Apr 10, 2012 14:29:31 GMT -5
We have to keep in mind that this is an 18 year old making a decision. While I think Georgetown is the best choice for Noel and Georgetown would give him the best training and experiences before going into the NBA, we are looking at this from a much different perspective than Noel. As much as many of us might have disdain for Calipari, I don't think it's totally unreasonable for a star 18 year old player to strongly consider them and possibly choose them. Really, think back to your own college decision, even if you weren't a basketball recruit. Why did you choose Georgetown or your college? Looking back, we might say we picked Georgetown because it was a great academic school in a great city with tons of opportunities. Sure, some of us may have had those thoughts when we were 17 or 18, but I bet there are plenty of people in this board who chose their college for a variety of reasons that may not fully seem rational now. Think about it this way - there are very intelligent teens who pick their college because of a significant other (who they almost never end up marrying). That is no less irrational than going somewhere because your friends are there or because the team just won a national championship. I chose Georgetown for the hot girls
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 10, 2012 14:33:42 GMT -5
I guess one of the reasons I am following this so closely is because superstar talent can go a long way. Ewing and Mourning STILL clearly benefit our program thanks to their fantastic NBA careers. I feel Noel may end up having a similar All-Star career, so it'd be great to have him as a Hoya even if his college career is just a year. I also think it would give us more credibility with future recruits if the #1 pick comes to GU. It would help squash teh chatter about the "Princeton" offense and its terrible limitations.
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Post by hoyatmf02 on Apr 10, 2012 16:06:39 GMT -5
Well Greg Monroe was a number one recruit and he came to Georgetown. Having Nerlens come would help, but look at all the hype we are getting. I think the fact that we are in this race with Cuse and Kentucky sends the message that we are legit. Obviously Pollard and a number of other kids think so as well.
This exposure helps, but everybody knows who we are. Honestly, if Nerlens were a guard, it would mean more since we are considered a big man school. But we got two guards to come in Austin and Chris not long ago. I think we'll be good regardless.
But better with Nerlens, of course! Go Hoyas!
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 10, 2012 16:13:31 GMT -5
Well Greg Monroe was a number one recruit and he came to Georgetown. Having Nerlens come would help, but look at all the hype we are getting. I think the fact that we are in this race with Cuse and Kentucky sends the message that we are legit. Obviously Pollard and a number of other kids think so as well. This exposure helps, but everybody knows who we are. Honestly, if Nerlens were a guard, it would mean more since we are considered a big man school. But we got two guards to come in Austin and Chris not long ago. I think we'll be good regardless. But better with Nerlens, of course! Go Hoyas! Monroe wasn't the number one ranked recruit.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 10, 2012 16:31:23 GMT -5
Well Greg Monroe was a number one recruit and he came to Georgetown. Having Nerlens come would help, but look at all the hype we are getting. I think the fact that we are in this race with Cuse and Kentucky sends the message that we are legit. Obviously Pollard and a number of other kids think so as well. This exposure helps, but everybody knows who we are. Honestly, if Nerlens were a guard, it would mean more since we are considered a big man school. But we got two guards to come in Austin and Chris not long ago. I think we'll be good regardless. But better with Nerlens, of course! Go Hoyas! Monroe wasn't the number one ranked recruit. If he had picked Duke I have no doubt that he would have been.
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