PhillyHoya
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Post by PhillyHoya on Mar 30, 2010 11:39:24 GMT -5
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 30, 2010 12:05:12 GMT -5
Didn't Shawn have serious back surgery a number of years ago? Maybe he's finally decided it's enough. I think some of these retirement angles are done at the request of the wrestlers, but it doesn't mean they can't be persuaded to change their minds down the road.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Mar 30, 2010 13:00:41 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels has definitely had back problems.
Perhaps appropriately, he first hurt his back in a match against Undertaker.
(I don't really know too much about wrestling today, but sadly, I probably know more than I should about wrestling up through the 90s.)
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 30, 2010 13:18:55 GMT -5
On the general scale, WWE is in a bit of a predicament, although I don't think they are too concerned about it. The undefeated streak at WM for the Taker is a big draw. But at some point, will it lose it's luster? At what point will the allure disappear since we all "know" that he won't lose? Then again, after he has lost, then that angle is gone forever. On an unrelated note, I remember seeing the Undertaker wrestle in Florida before anyone knew who the hell he was. He was a "no name" guy wrestling under the name "Mean Mark." His real name is Mark Callaway, I think. He was literally here for a cup of coffee in the now defunct Florida Championship Wrestling. Then someone at the then WWF discovered him and the rest is history. In his early days, he would tightrope the top rope and then jump off on his opponent. He still does it, but now he holds onto the hand of his foe. Back in the day, that freak of nature would actually do it without holding onto anything. When you see a guy who's almost 7 foot tall doing that, it is damn impressive.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 30, 2010 22:43:45 GMT -5
I thought this year's Taker/Michaels match topped last year's for whatever reason. Maybe it is because it just happened, but I thought they both did a great job of selling everything. My only problem with the match is all the near pin fall scenarios. It begins to get boring if you have a tombstone or super kick every 3 minutes.
Another gripe - the Taker entrance did not have the obligatory druids or even a Paul Bearer guest appearance for WM.
Another gripe - you cannot have this kind of event without Jim Ross doing the announcing. I didn't think their team was terrible, but they did not capture the moment at all like Jim Ross does.
I am with hifi at this point. The WWE is in a mess now that Michaels is gone because there is not a single person on the roster with the credibility to retire the Undertaker. Maybe HHH rises to that level or maybe Kane in a rehash of the old angle, but you won't get me to buy in to a Chris Jericho, Edge (although he's good), or (heaven forbid) John Cena beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Randy Orton seems like another possibility. Undertaker needs to be in more gimmick matches - the Hell in a Cell and Casket matches are usually well-done. Now that he's old, a classic wrestling match is not as good for him or the fans.
It is scary to think that I remember when the Undertaker first came to the WWE and even his days as Mean Mark Callous in WCW.
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The rest of WM was mediocre at best. I didn't watch it except for the ladder/money in a bank match. The WWE usually does a great job with those matches and gives you something different in each one. The divas matches, on the other hand, are flat out terrible and not worth it. The rest of the card was pretty poor and worth skipping.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 31, 2010 15:15:44 GMT -5
You mentioned Kane and that reminded me of something. Much like the WWE has a minor problem dealing with the Taker and his streak at Mania matches, they had a similar problem with Kane. Normally, the characters will develop and evolve as time passes, if for no other reason, then just to keep it interesting and keep the entertainers from getting stale. But they really couldn't do that with Kane for a long, long time. The reason was that the Kane masks were their number one selling item. I'm not sure if that finally changed or if the WWE just finally bit the bullet. But I did find that a bit interesting.
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