hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 3, 2010 14:11:13 GMT -5
I'll add my name to the opposition here. I think this idea stinks, for all the reasons given above. Let's just say that every team that is .500 or better from the ten best conferences gets in. Yuck.
Also, while the NIT isn't exactly the height of relevance, wouldn't 32 more teams in the NCAA tournament pretty much kill the NIT? I know this may sound odd, but if my team were lousy (see GU 2008-2009), I'd rather have them playing in the NIT than in an NCAA tournament for which they clearly weren't qualified. This just makes the NCAA tournament too damn watered down.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 5, 2010 9:27:57 GMT -5
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Mar 5, 2010 10:13:25 GMT -5
Expansion bad. Beer good. Don't do it.
A 68-team tournament would have been a nice compromise, although it would have been another slap in the face of lower conference champions. But the number of D-I college basketball teams has grown in the past few years, so I thought if anything would be done, this would make sense.
Let's face it, we all would still watch... but I'd be considerably less excited about the "play-in" round. The opening weekend of the NCAA Tournament (Thursday-Sunday) is, in my opinion, the best sports weekend of the entire year. It's almost sacred to me. This would basically negate that. I really don't think it would generate the big money and high ratings that the organizers are after. But of course, I'm just speculating.
Also, I assume that if it expands to 96 teams, that's for both the men's and the women's tournaments?
Finally, I find it ludicrous that the NCAA is considering expanding to have 96 teams play for a national championship in basketball, while it still chooses only two teams to compete for a national championship in football.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Mar 5, 2010 11:53:17 GMT -5
And if you're going to expand, why expand by so much? Why not try it out with 72 teams for a few years and see how that goes before jumping to almost 100?
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Mar 5, 2010 12:22:45 GMT -5
Here's a thought: If the NCAA wants to expand post-season opportunities, why not expand the NIT to 64 teams, and include auto bids for conference runners-up?
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 5, 2010 13:55:23 GMT -5
Here's a thought: If the NCAA wants to expand post-season opportunities, why not expand the NIT to 64 teams, and include auto bids for conference runners-up? Might work for one bid conferences, but not for anyone else. Even "one bid conferences" sometimes have more than one deserving team. I would prefer to see the NIT expanded, though, rather than the Dance.
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Mar 5, 2010 15:12:24 GMT -5
I used to be on the "hate this, its stupid" bandwagon but I see how it makes sense from the NCAA and TV standpoint IF they are eliminating the NIT.
The NIT is a relic of the past that is unique in American sports as its a "mark of shame" that everyone still hasto play in (and as we see this year and last even the bluebloods like UNC and Kentucky aren't immune forever from having a non-tourney quality season).
Ratings are awful, games are poorly attended (can you imagine what the Verizon Center would have looked like if we hosted a game there?) so if they just roll the NIT teams into the tourney, nothing really changes except some of the excitement of bubble teams fighting for their lives in February and March
I think the impact will be annoying to die hard college bb fans like us but negligible in the long run
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Mar 5, 2010 15:20:27 GMT -5
can you imagine what the Verizon Center would have looked like if we hosted a game there? I can. NIT 1st round vs. Boston University, 2005. Attendance? 2,797. Really empty, although the few fans that were there were fine. The 2,604 that packed McDonough a game later was a lot more fun. I'm still against it but let's just see what happens. Watching bubble teams I'm familiar with duke it out for the last few at-large berths is an important and fun of March Madness to me too.
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 6, 2010 2:17:28 GMT -5
Here's a thought: If the NCAA wants to expand post-season opportunities, why not expand the NIT to 64 teams, and include auto bids for conference runners-up? I wish they would keep the NCAA tourney as it is and if they really want to they can expand the NIT to include every other Div 1 team
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 6, 2010 9:08:06 GMT -5
No need to expand the NCAA tourney. If the national champion is not among the top 64 teams by the end of the season, they should wait for another season.
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Post by hifigator on Mar 6, 2010 12:22:09 GMT -5
Here's a thought: If the NCAA wants to expand post-season opportunities, why not expand the NIT to 64 teams, and include auto bids for conference runners-up? It's funny you should say that. I just found out yesterday that the Women's NIT did expand to 64 teams this year. I'm not sure about the Men's. Also, there is a provision that puts the highest seeded team from each conference that didn't make the dance into the women's NIT. The significance of that -- and I use the term loosely -- is that the Lady Gators were the highest seeded team in the SEC that won't get an NCAA bid, so just when I thought the Lady Gator season was mercifully over, it looks like there is at least one more annoying game in the way. Why you say? Well, they finished at 14-16! I don't know about you, but winning less than half of your games doesn't warrant post season play in my mind. But if the sports host on the show yesterday was correct, and all the teams that finished ahead of Florida in the SEC get NCAA bids, then someway somehow, the Lady Gators are off to "post season action." Ugh ...
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 6, 2010 20:34:47 GMT -5
It's funny you should say that. I just found out yesterday that the Women's NIT did expand to 64 teams this year. I'm not sure about the Men's. Also, there is a provision that puts the highest seeded team from each conference that didn't make the dance into the women's NIT. The significance of that -- and I use the term loosely -- is that the Lady Gators were the highest seeded team in the SEC that won't get an NCAA bid, so just when I thought the Lady Gator season was mercifully over, it looks like there is at least one more annoying game in the way. Why you say? Well, they finished at 14-16! I don't know about you, but winning less than half of your games doesn't warrant post season play in my mind. But if the sports host on the show yesterday was correct, and all the teams that finished ahead of Florida in the SEC get NCAA bids, then someway somehow, the Lady Gators are off to "post season action." Ugh ... Too bad...Lady Hoyas are actually good so yet again, we don't care
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