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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 27, 2010 11:32:39 GMT -5
We need a poll to guess the number of times he uses the pronoun I. Why? So if he uses it a lot, you can criticize him for focusing too much on himself, and so if he doesn't, you can say that he isn't taking personal command or responsibility for anything?
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Post by Elvado on Jan 27, 2010 11:35:38 GMT -5
We need a poll to guess the number of times he uses the pronoun I. Why? So if he uses it a lot, you can criticize him for focusing too much on himself, and so if he doesn't, you can say that he isn't taking personal command or responsibility for anything? The better test will be to see how far he tries to distance himself from the Landrieu and Nelson bribes, as if the White House was not in on those deals.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 27, 2010 12:24:15 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on his proposed budgetary freeze + tax hike?
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 27, 2010 12:43:05 GMT -5
At this point in time, can we make any predictions WRT tonight's speech? Is there any content that the White House hasn't yet revealed?
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Post by theexorcist on Jan 27, 2010 12:45:08 GMT -5
At this point in time, can we make any predictions WRT tonight's speech? Is there any content that the White House hasn't yet revealed? Banks are bad. The Dallas Morning News indicated that some of those affected by the Fort Hood shooting will be in the audience. The Post reported that a student from D.C. who is now in college will be there, too.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 27, 2010 12:49:44 GMT -5
At this point in time, can we make any predictions WRT tonight's speech? Is there any content that the White House hasn't yet revealed? Banks are bad. The Dallas Morning News indicated that some of those affected by the Fort Hood shooting will be in the audience. The Post reported that a student from D.C. who is now in college will be there, too. No Hoya basketball players? This must be a down year for us. Maybe the "Still Delusion" post was right.
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Post by theexorcist on Jan 27, 2010 12:59:49 GMT -5
Banks are bad. The Dallas Morning News indicated that some of those affected by the Fort Hood shooting will be in the audience. The Post reported that a student from D.C. who is now in college will be there, too. No Hoya basketball players? This must be a down year for us. Maybe the "Still Delusion" post was right. There's a one basketball player a year quota. This year, after Joe wasn't able to keep everybody in line on stimulus spending, 44 will introduce us to his friend Charles Oakley.
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 27, 2010 14:14:24 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on his proposed budgetary freeze + tax hike? Favor the budgetary freeze but freeze on all items except veterans affairs but including defense and homeland security. Also including Social Security, Medicare and the other so-called entitlements. In addition, start now, not 2011 budget. If and when these are in place and budgeted to be flat or less in 2011, increase taxes. Too often in the past there were tax increases with promises of spending cuts, only to see the cuts never materialize. The freeze he will apparently propose is a step in the right direction but it's a tiny step and only starts next FY. And it apparently excludes most or all of his initiatives.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Jan 27, 2010 14:29:15 GMT -5
I predict Obama will unveil Apple's new tablet computer.
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 27, 2010 15:00:58 GMT -5
I predict Obama will unveil Apple's new tablet computer. That Al Gore invented.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 27, 2010 16:32:53 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 27, 2010 19:38:54 GMT -5
Another statistic bears attention, the Democrats (plus the two Independents) had 60 votes in the Senate for a year, sufficient to impose cloture at any time.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 27, 2010 19:47:50 GMT -5
Another statistic bears attention, the Democrats (plus the two Independents) had 60 votes in the Senate for a year, sufficient to impose cloture at any time. That's incorrect as a matter of fact due to, among other things, the Coleman litigation in Minnesota, Senator Kennedy's illness, and Senator Byrd's illness. Coleman conceded the race on June 30, more than 5 months after President Obama's inauguration. There was only one Senator from Minnesota during that time - no placeholder.
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Post by azarin on Jan 27, 2010 19:50:31 GMT -5
Actually, they had just over 6 months, seeing as a host of legal challenges kept Al Franken from being seated until July. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31778598/ns/politics-capitol_hillAnd of course, with 60 votes you can invoke cloture at any point. But I don't really understand your argument here, Ed. Should the Democrats have just completely run over the Republicans and gone for a cloture vote on health care back in August? As a liberal Democrat who now curses the time we wasted negotiating with Republicans who as it turns out didn't want to participate constructively, I wish we had. But this approach seems to be a contrast to the complaint by most conservatives that Democrats are trying to ram this through. And of course, it makes the faulty assumption that the Senate works like a parliament, where it's really only party affiliation that matters. Just because you have 60 (nominal) votes doesn't mean you can count on them to always do what you want. Exhibit A: Joe Lieberman.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 27, 2010 20:16:23 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on his proposed budgetary freeze + tax hike? Favor the budgetary freeze but freeze on all items except veterans affairs but including defense and homeland security. Also including Social Security, Medicare and the other so-called entitlements. In addition, start now, not 2011 budget. If and when these are in place and budgeted to be flat or less in 2011, increase taxes. Too often in the past there were tax increases with promises of spending cuts, only to see the cuts never materialize. The freeze he will apparently propose is a step in the right direction but it's a tiny step and only starts next FY. And it apparently excludes most or all of his initiatives. The "Freeze" is a fraud like its proponent. Each and every program he wants to freeze was jacked up in spending already as part of his "stimulus" crap. Did we really just commit $75B to pay for extending unemployment benefits after the Great O's Stimulus package failed? The only thing he has stimulated is unemployment claims. If this weren't so tragic it would be high comedy. You can't write better comedy than Barry O and the Beltway Buffoons give you each and every day.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 27, 2010 20:43:51 GMT -5
Favor the budgetary freeze but freeze on all items except veterans affairs but including defense and homeland security. Also including Social Security, Medicare and the other so-called entitlements. In addition, start now, not 2011 budget. If and when these are in place and budgeted to be flat or less in 2011, increase taxes. Too often in the past there were tax increases with promises of spending cuts, only to see the cuts never materialize. The freeze he will apparently propose is a step in the right direction but it's a tiny step and only starts next FY. And it apparently excludes most or all of his initiatives. The "Freeze" is a fraud like its proponent. Each and every program he wants to freeze was jacked up in spending already as part of his "stimulus" crap. Did we really just commit $75B to pay for extending unemployment benefits after the Great O's Stimulus package failed? The only thing he has stimulated is unemployment claims. If this weren't so tragic it would be high comedy. You can't write better comedy than Barry O and the Beltway Buffoons give you each and every day. Exactly how did the stimulus fail?
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 27, 2010 21:20:57 GMT -5
In President Bush's first SOTU, he used "I" 46 times, 4 times of a contraction with "I", 10 of me, 14 of my for a total of 74 out of 4371 words - or 1.7%. Obama has 126 uses tonight out of 7134 words, for a rate of 1.8%. I think he'll extend his apologies for the extra .1% of uppitiness.
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Post by hoyaalf on Jan 27, 2010 22:16:34 GMT -5
I presume that you are referring to the ground-breaking and vaguely valuable work of Herchel McLandress.
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Post by TC on Jan 27, 2010 22:29:37 GMT -5
Favorite moments - smacking the Supremes to their faces and Alito's Doug Williams-being-shredded-by-Jamie Foxx face, and all of the hating on Senate.
Best line - the pivot from the stimulus was the right thing to do and he'd do the same thing today to the American people are tightening their belts to the Federal government should do it too (I really think that came off pretty well and the pundits making fun of the discretionary spending freeze are missing that yes, it's a psychological thing, but it's one it seems like people want to see for that very reason).
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 27, 2010 22:31:59 GMT -5
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