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Post by hoya95 on Jan 7, 2010 21:10:14 GMT -5
Who slipped Nick Saban the crystal meth? What on earth are they doing? 4th and 23 fakes and now he wants to throw every down. Long way to go, but if McCoy didn't get hurt, this looked like a Texas blowout. Still might be.
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 7, 2010 21:25:42 GMT -5
Who slipped Nick Saban the crystal meth? What on earth are they doing? 4th and 23 fakes and now he wants to throw every down. Long way to go, but if McCoy didn't get hurt, this looked like a Texas blowout. Still might be. Saban appears to have sobered up. Texas has no chance of winning w/o McCoy. And if McCoy isn't going to come back, Mack Brown needs to open up the playbook for Gilbert and just hope Gilbert can cut it. They aren't winning by running twice and then throwing a short pass--Alabama's defense is too good. They'll continue to force Texas to go three and out every time and Texas will lose. The only chance they have is if Gilbert can do a decent job running the same offense as McCoy.
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Post by hoya95 on Jan 7, 2010 22:12:45 GMT -5
Yeah, the McCoy injury ended the game. Texas can't throw (to put it mildly) and Alabama went back to running the ball like they should have been doing all along. But if McCoy didn't get hurt, it wouldn't have shocked me if Texas got up 14-0. Then Alabama really could have abandoned the run and gotten killed. Now we get to watch the poor freshman get trampled. Ouch.
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Post by Boz on Jan 7, 2010 22:15:30 GMT -5
So I watch a lot less college football than most of you, but it seems to me tonight comes down to passing games. McCoy's a better QB, but Alabama has he better pass rush, I think. Which QB wilts? I don't know about wilting, but apparently McCoy got knocked out of the game (at least for now). I hope this doesn't turn into a situation where McCoy is out and Bama wins and we have to wonder what could have been. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what we've gotten. Pretty anti-climactic, with Texas playing 10 on 11 when they have the ball. Guess I'll go watch Armageddon. It sucks just as bad and I know the outcome of that one too.
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Post by kghoya on Jan 7, 2010 22:59:37 GMT -5
oh javin snead what could have been
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jan 7, 2010 23:39:30 GMT -5
Hook 'em horns. This game is still a fraud, but the way 'bama has played this second half they deserve to lose it.
Nine passes for Mcelroy. Screw your Saban.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 8, 2010 0:19:02 GMT -5
Who slipped Nick Saban the crystal meth? Ha. Based on the end of the first half, it might have been Mack and Greg. As the saying goes, Edited happens, and it did for Texas on its second offensive possession of the game. I thought the Longhorns (ON EDIT: and Garrett Gilbert) showed some huevos by taking a miserable situation and still giving themselves a chance to win in the fourth quarter. Congratulations to Alabama for making a great play to turn the tide the other way. I hope Texas gets another shot at Saban & Co. down the road.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 8, 2010 0:29:54 GMT -5
As a UT fan, I felt bad for McCoy, but his postgame interviewing struck me as strange but sportsmanlike. Said all the right things, but he was smiling the whole time as if the team had not lost. I think most folks in that spot would give the same tip of the cap but would show some sign of being ticked off and upset that they could not change the outcome on the field. Some may bash him for coming back on the sidelines/causing distraction. I am not there - once in a lifetime situation. My $.02 anyway on a minor issue.
Thought the UT team did a good job of supporting the young Gilbert, and the coaches did the right thing with him. All bets were off, and they did not ride him at all, at least from what I saw. Thought Mack Brown kept his composure well but should have been riled up a bit with the missed pass interference calls after the onsides rocket. He handled the halftime interview well when things could have gotten a little chippy with the initial question IMO.
I have no problem with the plays that were called generally. The young QB just made the mistakes that a young QB makes in a game like that. The shovel pass at the end of the first half killed us, but that looked like a decision-making issue - nothing there, so fall on the ball and head in for half. The runs in the second quarter, I thought, were designed to burn clock with the idea that you might get McCoy back at halftime, which seemed possible (although maybe not probable) from what Musberger was saying.
Alabama was the better team for having Ingram, who toughed things out and was workmanlike. Notice he was not first to the cameras after the game. Still, I thought Saban was outcoached and outclassed, particularly at the end with the last touchdown. They could have taken a knee somewhere along the line there.
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Post by RDF on Jan 8, 2010 1:11:48 GMT -5
Texas needs to get in the weightroom. They have speed but they are tiny and their LB's look like HS players who've never seen weights. Muckleroy's got smaller arms then I do.
That said--I thought Garrett Gilbert was the best QB prospect I've seen UT have under center. He's got a bright future and if he didn't have to throw to idiots (besides the 40 year old Jordan Shipley) they have a different game. Malcolm Williams hyped by the moron that is Todd McShay of ESPN before the game dropped the TD in 1st Half that turned game around--Tide go on to score 10 pts instead of only being up 14-13 if Williams shows any clue.
Gilbert is going to be a fine player and thought UT did a nice job of going to safe plays to help him.
McElroy is AWFUL. Saban is a great coach to win with this guy as his QB. That was horrible QB play and honestly--they'll lose next year due to him not having the ability to make a play.
Colt McCoy was a genuine class act after the game. I thought he was fighting back tears and didn't want to cry on television-and you work your ass off to get to play in that game and lose it in first series--and can't help team--that sucks. Thought his answers were far more mature then most kids and he had a reason to weep--unlike the jackass in Gainesville---and not to mention McCoy showed some honest/mild leadership instead of the theatrics for the cameras that Tebow did at any moment. Sadly--this is last game I ever expect to see him start/play as he's got no future in NFL--which was shown tonight. He's too small, can't take the pounding, and his game doesn't adjust well to next level. Wish him best--but think it ended tonight for him.
Gilbert will lead UT to a National Title if they find NEW WR's. Everyone who was above 5'10 for them SUCKS. They need to get some people with a clue.
Kirby Smart/Saban went away from shading Shipley and he ate them up--why not double him and throw zone looks at a young kid at QB? They blitzed him like you would Mccoy--trying to keep him in pocket and Gilbert is more poised. I knew he threw a lot of INT's--but he's going to be a great QB and NFL prospect--if he lifts some damn weights. What does that LARD ASS "Mad Dog" do for Texas? GET IN A WEIGHT ROOM!!!
Alabama-has great running game/talent overall and he's a great coach--but they have to have someone who can throw the ball better then that with that good of a running game? Come on. These "all he does is win...." stats are great-but if you start on HS teams who are loaded--you'll win. If you play at Bama--and have that talent--you should win and his inability keeps teams in games too.
Well-onto the next one because a very average season has concluded. Hopefully next one is better in terms of playmaking and teams who are going to step it up and perform and while it was a fun game to watch and I enjoy the sport--it was fitting way to end this year. I came away thinking Iowa and Ohio State might have been best 2 teams I saw in BCS with Boise State behind them.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 8, 2010 1:42:22 GMT -5
If Texas' WRs could catch and if Mack Brown's staff wasn't on crack with that shuttle pass, Texas wins even w/o McCoy.
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Post by Bando on Jan 8, 2010 3:10:46 GMT -5
I don't know about wilting, but apparently McCoy got knocked out of the game (at least for now). I hope this doesn't turn into a situation where McCoy is out and Bama wins and we have to wonder what could have been. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what we've gotten. Pretty anti-climactic, with Texas playing 10 on 11 when they have the ball. Guess I'll go watch Armageddon. It sucks just as bad and I know the outcome of that one too. This is ridiculous, though. I'm pretty sure Colt McCoy is not a member of the Longhorn's rush defense. Besides that ridiculous shovel pass interception at the end of the first half, I don't know how Bama's offense plays any worse with McCoy in. Let's remember that he was still in when Texas failed to capitalize (other than figgies) off of the Tide's early turnovers.
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Post by Boz on Jan 8, 2010 9:35:56 GMT -5
Pretty sure Colt McCoy went out on Texas' first drive (can't remember if he finished the drive or not), so no, that would be inaccurate.
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Post by kchoya on Jan 8, 2010 9:41:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what we've gotten. Pretty anti-climactic, with Texas playing 10 on 11 when they have the ball. Guess I'll go watch Armageddon. It sucks just as bad and I know the outcome of that one too. This is ridiculous, though. I'm pretty sure Colt McCoy is not a member of the Longhorn's rush defense. Besides that ridiculous shovel pass interception at the end of the first half, I don't know how Bama's offense plays any worse with McCoy in. Let's remember that he was still in when Texas failed to capitalize (other than figgies) off of the Tide's early turnovers. Boz is right, he was hurt on the 5th play of the game (UT's first offensive series). Plus, I don't know if they run that shovel pass play if they know they have McCoy in the second half instead of the frosh. Or at least McCoy does a better job executing the play and it doesn't get intercepted.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 8, 2010 13:41:39 GMT -5
While everyone looks for ways to minimize Bama's accomplishment, McCoy was not out with the flu. They knocked him out. He got smacked by a Bama guy and could not return. In boxing that's a knockout.
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Post by kghoya on Jan 8, 2010 23:40:58 GMT -5
end of an era at usc?
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Post by FormerHoya on Jan 9, 2010 0:43:20 GMT -5
Sure looks that way. It's fun watching the rats jump off the sinking (NCAA Sanctions coming) ship. Of course, Carroll won't take the job and the NCAA will continue its pattern of only sanctioning small unimportant schools, and Southern Cal will continue its winning ways, and I'll look like a fool, again.
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Post by RDF on Jan 9, 2010 1:43:47 GMT -5
Carroll is GONE--he's going to get 7 million per year from Paul Allen to be mediocre in Seattle--because that is what they'll be. That franchise has a highly overinflated opinion of the mediocre crap talent on roster and no NFL coach can do jack about that. Carroll is a good evaluator--but Salary Caps prevent a lot of coaches from succeeding in turning things around. Thing is--he won't care--because he's paid either way. Stupid move by Allen--and shows he knows little of how to get things done. Coaches don't create "buzz" in NFL--they do in NCAA football--and if you suck with Pete Carroll smiling on sideline--you'll have empty seats and boo birds because he can't sign 20-25 guys to change things.
More interesting will be to see who USC hires?? I've heard Mike Riley which I think would be a monumental FAILURE. Won't be easy replacing Carroll but USC should aim higher then Riley. Great guy and coach--but he can't recruit with big boys to make USC a national power. They'd be regionally strong but that's not going to fill seats in LA.
More importantly--hire a guy who can get a STAFF who can recruit and Riley can't do that. Saw one rumor of Riley, Chow as OC, and Ed Orgeron as DC--which would be a fascinating scenario-but highly unlikely because rumors are that Carroll is taking Chow with him to Seattle.
Timing of this tells me that Carroll has had it with Mike Garrett and USC people I know DESPISE Garrett. Remember--Carroll was LUCK--they stumbled into that as he was the 6th or 7th choice--and Garrett "loves" Riley which makes me think it would be an epic fail of degree Garrett would lose his job.
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Post by kchoya on Jan 9, 2010 9:22:29 GMT -5
While everyone looks for ways to minimize Bama's accomplishment, McCoy was not out with the flu. They knocked him out. He got smacked by a Bama guy and could not return. In boxing that's a knockout. Except it's not boxing, and you don't win the game by knocking players out of the game, you win by scoring more points. And it's not minimizing Alabama's win to say there's a decent chance they don't win if McCoy doesn't get knocked out of the game.
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Post by RDF on Jan 9, 2010 10:16:04 GMT -5
While everyone looks for ways to minimize Bama's accomplishment, McCoy was not out with the flu. They knocked him out. He got smacked by a Bama guy and could not return. In boxing that's a knockout. Except it's not boxing, and you don't win the game by knocking players out of the game, you win by scoring more points. And it's not minimizing Alabama's win to say there's a decent chance they don't win if McCoy doesn't get knocked out of the game. There is nothing wrong with "knocking players out of the game" as long as it's part of the game on clean hits--that is goal of every defense--knock the crap out of your opponent and be more physical. Alabama did this and it helped them win the game. Texas was too busy throwing shoulders and ankle biting to knock anyone out. Texas needs to balance their speed with more strength if they plan on winning more out of conference as Big XII isn't a physical league--which cost Oklahoma last year against Florida--they couldn't run the ball at all and were incapable of scoring inside the 10 yard line due to that--and Texas was unable to run football at all Thursday or stop the run. Stopping the run in Big XII is equivalent of saying UConn is an "academic institution" in Big East. With all of the talk about "facilities" we read--and knowing the money spent on facilities at Texas--it would be nice to see players actually USE them and not goof off in the player's lounge because the majority of that team looked like they use machine weights at the local health club and have never put in time to lift.
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Post by TigerHoya on Jan 9, 2010 14:33:16 GMT -5
So who goes to USC if the "done deal" for Carroll to the Seahawks for 5 yrs for $35M
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