hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 23, 2013 10:08:38 GMT -5
Should have done single payer from the jump. As well, let's not forget that the ACA is based on ideas designed and touted by Republicans until they were embraced by this administration.
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Sept 23, 2013 10:38:29 GMT -5
www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/19/us-usa-healthcare-ohio-idUSBRE98I16B20130919It seems that the Cleveland Clinic's main problem is that Ohio is turning down the federal funds for Medicaid expansion. The Affordable Care Act expands Medicaid and provides insurance availability with subsidies to make insurance affordable for low and moderate income people who do not receive employer-sponsored coverage. Part of the offset of the federal cost will be a steep reduction in the extra federal assistance in Medicaid that currently goes to hospitals and clinics that treat large numbers of uninsured patients, because there would not be nearly as many uninsured once the ACA is in effect. Another offset is that some Medicare reimbursements will not increase by as much as they would otherwise. That was part of the trade off, but the law was designed so that hospitals and outpatient clinics would come out ahead because of the new coverage. The Republican governors who are trying to sabotage the health law in their states are setting up their hospitals and clinics to experience the reductions in Medicare and Medicaid without the increases in revenues that would come from the sharp reduction in uncompensated care for treatment of the uninsured.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 15, 2013 9:57:49 GMT -5
If this were WCare, instead of ObamaCare, posters would be all over this. Wonder why there is no comment recently. Guess it's just not important. Oh well.
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Post by quickplay on Nov 15, 2013 11:51:45 GMT -5
Ultimately, I agree that the real problem with the ObamaCare rollout is that everyone is biased against the perpetually victimized conservatives.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 16, 2013 9:15:20 GMT -5
If this were WCare, instead of ObamaCare, posters would be all over this. Wonder why there is no comment recently. Guess it's just not important. Oh well. Well, from my perspective, I'm somewhat burned out on it. The technical issues have been awful, but they will be fixed. People will finally have access to health care that previously did not. Social secutity and medicare all experienced issues early on. Besides, it's basketball season! We've got to keep our priorities straight.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 16, 2013 16:02:13 GMT -5
Pay no attention to that little man behind the curtain...I am the great an powerful Obama...
This whole spectacle would be funny if not so tragic. I will not delay the mandate to avert a shutdown, but I will by executive fiat rewrite the bill to avoid my approval rating hitting 35 and Democrat losses in the midterms.
He is a joke. My favorite piece of this whole mess is that the individual penalty can only be enforced by holding on to your refund. That is why healthy young people are staying away from Obamacare in droves.
They simply refuse to subsidize the old and infirm or those who pay nothing.
And remember folks, The Wizard told us this utopian health care system would not cost taxpayer money.
Ha!!!!
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 4, 2013 12:59:21 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 21, 2013 9:51:38 GMT -5
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 5, 2014 8:32:45 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Sept 5, 2014 10:02:59 GMT -5
The article is interesting and provides some fascinating data. Curiously it does not seem to mention once all of the people who got thrown off plans they were perfecty happy with to accommodate the mandates of the Act. Nor does it draw any distinction between those who enrolled on a cash pay basis versus the huge swell in Medicaid enrollment. Good old Vox.
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TC
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Post by TC on Sept 5, 2014 11:05:54 GMT -5
Nor does it draw any distinction between those who enrolled on a cash pay basis versus the huge swell in Medicaid enrollment. Why should it? According to these numbers, the benchmark is going down irrespective of whether you're paying your own way or accepting a Medicaid subsidy.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Oct 30, 2014 13:36:34 GMT -5
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 30, 2014 15:09:19 GMT -5
That sounds like a fantastic idea. I can not think of any unintended consequences that could possibly occur as a result of allowing such lawsuits.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Oct 30, 2014 16:07:34 GMT -5
Cue the train whistle... There's a wreck coming...
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Post by Just Cos on Oct 31, 2014 0:48:08 GMT -5
California has proven to me that direct democracy is the worst. If you get enough signatures you can really put anything on the ballot. Unfortunately, there is no system that really works... ...unless you are North Korea! You know you are the real deal when you can force every person entering the country to quarantine. Power baby!
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 18, 2014 11:02:03 GMT -5
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 18, 2014 11:14:59 GMT -5
That article went off the rails pretty quickly. And it assumes that the only way to create a functional individual insurance market is through Obamacare / Single payer. And I wonder what the reaction would be if more / all companies were able to brand their employees as independent contractors? Think Uber would still be able to get away without providing insurance to its drivers?
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TC
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Post by TC on Nov 18, 2014 12:15:27 GMT -5
I'm not understanding your criticism. The article makes no mention of single payer, I see nowhere where it assumes that Obamacare is the only way to create a functional individual insurance market (although it's the only way we now have one), and Uber operates in a space that I'm guessing is already underinsured.
You're basically criticizing it because it doesn't acknowledge the viability of a hypothetical-but-completely-imaginary Republican plan for a functional individual insurance market.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 25, 2015 10:37:38 GMT -5
Hard to argue with this:
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Post by aleutianhoya on Jun 25, 2015 11:05:40 GMT -5
It's obviously pretty easy to argue with that, seeing as how six jurists just did so. Words most certainly do have meaning. And the best way to accurately interpret them is to read them in the larger context in which they were drafted. I'd suggest it's hard -- even impossible -- to argue with that.
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