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Post by the_way on Jun 30, 2009 9:52:22 GMT -5
If III is going to keep the Princeton system he needed another guy who was very familiar with the X & Os who could help with strategy or even take over a practice for one reason or another if III had to take a recruiting trip. So because of that it is a good pick. Its only a terrible pick only for those of you who want to scrap the system entirely. Who would coach the {insert university} defense in that scenario then? ;D
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Post by kchoya on Jun 30, 2009 10:56:45 GMT -5
If III is going to keep the Princeton system he needed another guy who was very familiar with the X & Os who could help with strategy or even take over a practice for one reason or another if III had to take a recruiting trip. So because of that it is a good pick. Its only a terrible pick only for those of you who want to scrap the system entirely. Who would coach the {insert university} defense in that scenario then? ;D I wasn't aware that we played such a complicated defense that takes players a long time to learn. Please enlighten us
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Post by the_way on Jun 30, 2009 11:18:21 GMT -5
Who would coach the {insert university} defense in that scenario then? ;D I wasn't aware that we played such a complicated defense that takes players a long time to learn. Please enlighten us I wasn't ware that the Princeton offense was so complicated that it takes players a long time to learn? is there a test that the players must pass? is that why we stunk on offense this year? JTIII was on the road recruiting, and Burke's dog ate his Princeton offense formula sheet, so he had to run the offensive side of practice off the top of his head?
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Post by bmartin on Jun 30, 2009 11:49:06 GMT -5
We needed a point guard coach more than we need a big man coach. I suspect Brennan is in Sydney Johnson's role more than in Burke's.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 30, 2009 13:13:52 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that we played such a complicated defense that takes players a long time to learn. Please enlighten us I wasn't ware that the Princeton offense was so complicated that it takes players a long time to learn? is there a test that the players must pass? is that why we stunk on offense this year? JTIII was on the road recruiting, and Burke's dog ate his Princeton offense formula sheet, so he had to run the offensive side of practice off the top of his head? Have you been under a rock for the past 6 years? Have you missed quote after quote, story after story, about how it's a complicated offensive approach that does take players a while to learn? Yes, maybe that was a reason we weren't as good on offense this year.
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Post by guru on Jun 30, 2009 13:20:14 GMT -5
I wasn't ware that the Princeton offense was so complicated that it takes players a long time to learn? is there a test that the players must pass? is that why we stunk on offense this year? JTIII was on the road recruiting, and Burke's dog ate his Princeton offense formula sheet, so he had to run the offensive side of practice off the top of his head? Have you been under a rock for the past 6 years? Have you missed quote after quote, story after story, about how it's a complicated offensive approach that does take players a while to learn? Yes, maybe that was a reason we weren't as good on offense this year. WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! YOU HAVE ENGAGED THE HUMAN GLUE TRAP! FOR YOUR OWN SANITY AND THAT OF ALL OTHERS HERE, IMMEDIATELY MOVE AS FAR AWAY FROM YOUR KEYBOARD AS IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE AND DO NOT RESPOND TO FURTHER PROVOCATIONS FROM the_way! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
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Post by kchoya on Jun 30, 2009 13:24:46 GMT -5
Have you been under a rock for the past 6 years? Have you missed quote after quote, story after story, about how it's a complicated offensive approach that does take players a while to learn? Yes, maybe that was a reason we weren't as good on offense this year. WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! YOU HAVE ENGAGED THE HUMAN GLUE TRAP! FOR YOUR OWN SANITY AND THAT OF ALL OTHERS HERE, IMMEDIATELY MOVE AS FAR AWAY FROM YOUR KEYBOARD AS IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE AND DO NOT RESPOND TO FURTHER PROVOCATIONS FROM the_way! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Sorry, I should have known better. Clearly the_way is current and knowledgeable on all things sports and music, including in the use of a photo of an overrated rapper who died more than a decade ago.
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Post by the_way on Jun 30, 2009 13:43:07 GMT -5
WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! YOU HAVE ENGAGED THE HUMAN GLUE TRAP! FOR YOUR OWN SANITY AND THAT OF ALL OTHERS HERE, IMMEDIATELY MOVE AS FAR AWAY FROM YOUR KEYBOARD AS IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE AND DO NOT RESPOND TO FURTHER PROVOCATIONS FROM the_way! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Sorry, I should have known better. Clearly the_way is current and knowledgeable on all things sports and music, including in the use of a photo of an overrated rapper who died more than a decade ago. Clearly, you are wound a little too tight. Get some fresh air. Learn to relax.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 30, 2009 13:48:07 GMT -5
I wasn't ware that the Princeton offense was so complicated that it takes players a long time to learn? is there a test that the players must pass? is that why we stunk on offense this year? JTIII was on the road recruiting, and Burke's dog ate his Princeton offense formula sheet, so he had to run the offensive side of practice off the top of his head? Have you been under a rock for the past 6 years? Have you missed quote after quote, story after story, about how it's a complicated offensive approach that does take players a while to learn? Yes, maybe that was a reason we weren't as good on offense this year. Do you really think that inexperience in the system was the reason we weren't as good this year? Monroe was a frosh, but man, he seemed to fit in pretty well. Our most experienced players struggled. I don't disagree that the offense takes more time to perfect -- I wouldn't say it is complicated so much as it requires repetition to learn to read the defense and react as a team as opposed to individually. But I don't really see that as our issue this year. We couldn't shoot, defend or rebound.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jun 30, 2009 14:01:25 GMT -5
of course, scrapping the system with JT3 as coach would be like some team hiring Boeheim to run a strictly man-to-man defense.
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Post by Diablo on Jun 30, 2009 14:01:56 GMT -5
teaching and instructing are only 50% of the job of an assistant. what about recruiting? is brennan a proven recruiter? seems to me he is wet behind the ears, similar to cox and hunter.
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Post by kellycpcm on Jun 30, 2009 14:05:53 GMT -5
What makes anyone think that just because it is another year that we will be able to shoot,defend and rebound? It's the same players minus the two most experienced system players. The three freshmen will be freshmen. It isn't the system, it's the adjustments to what the other teams do. We were basically in most of the games at halftime. It's what the players do or don't do in the second half that killed us. Many times it appeared that the team forgot to run the offense and couldn't adjust to the changes from the other teams on defense.
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Post by the_way on Jun 30, 2009 14:27:57 GMT -5
What makes anyone think that just because it is another year that we will be able to shoot,defend and rebound? It's the same players minus the two most experienced system players. The three freshmen will be freshmen. It isn't the system, it's the adjustments to what the other teams do. We were basically in most of the games at halftime. It's what the players do or don't do in the second half that killed us. Many times it appeared that the team forgot to run the offense and couldn't adjust to the changes from the other teams on defense. It was all Dajuan's fault. He had his mind on the NBA. Thats why he wasn't smiling enough. He is gone now, and Hollis is better anyway. Plus Greg is gonna be next year's Blake Griffin. Henry is going to be starting too. Final Four, here we come baby! ;D
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Post by SaxaCD on Jun 30, 2009 14:28:40 GMT -5
So in other words, we can't expect anyone to improve from freshman to sophmore, or sophomore to junior years? If these guys were all 30, i might agree with you. But in college, even the same group of players can turn out to be completely different teams from one year to another. Looks like a good assistant hire, and would like to see a big man coach (preferably a former GU player with drive and enthusiasm) as well, but this one looks like a young up and comer who's had good experiences playing for and working with excellent coaches. What makes anyone think that just because it is another year that we will be able to shoot,defend and rebound? It's the same players minus the two most experienced system players. The three freshmen will be freshmen. It isn't the system, it's the adjustments to what the other teams do. We were basically in most of the games at halftime. It's what the players do or don't do in the second half that killed us. Many times it appeared that the team forgot to run the offense and couldn't adjust to the changes from the other teams on defense.
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Post by the_way on Jun 30, 2009 14:35:06 GMT -5
So in other words, we can't expect anyone to improve from freshman to sophmore, or sophomore to junior years? If these guys were all 30, i might agree with you. But in college, even the same group of players can turn out to be completely different teams from one year to another. Looks like a good assistant hire, and would like to see a big man coach (preferably a former GU player with drive and enthusiasm) as well, but this one looks like a young up and comer who's had good experiences playing for and working with excellent coaches. What makes anyone think that just because it is another year that we will be able to shoot,defend and rebound? It's the same players minus the two most experienced system players. The three freshmen will be freshmen. It isn't the system, it's the adjustments to what the other teams do. We were basically in most of the games at halftime. It's what the players do or don't do in the second half that killed us. Many times it appeared that the team forgot to run the offense and couldn't adjust to the changes from the other teams on defense. Would a Big Man coach former/GU player type work, though? JTIII walked into Hibbert. I think Hibbert was the last of that type of C JTIII will recruit. I think Hibbs was that great of a player that he could have fit in Pops system or III's. Seems like Greg was born to play the C position in terms of running the Princeton offense, no? I'm thinking that is the direction III is going, no?
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Post by sleepy on Jun 30, 2009 14:44:14 GMT -5
What makes anyone think that just because it is another year that we will be able to shoot,defend and rebound? It's the same players minus the two most experienced system players. The three freshmen will be freshmen. It isn't the system, it's the adjustments to what the other teams do. We were basically in most of the games at halftime. It's what the players do or don't do in the second half that killed us. Many times it appeared that the team forgot to run the offense and couldn't adjust to the changes from the other teams on defense. Because we could defend shoot and rebound last year. The problem was we couldn't do it all at the same time or consistently enough or under pressure. And your last sentence is a main reason why most people believe an added year of expierence will improve this group. They were bad in crunch time and were inexpeirence adjusting to other teams. Both those this are signs of youth in major positions. Something that just a year changes.
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Post by jkhoya12 on Jun 30, 2009 15:03:10 GMT -5
So in other words, we can't expect anyone to improve from freshman to sophmore, or sophomore to junior years? If these guys were all 30, i might agree with you. But in college, even the same group of players can turn out to be completely different teams from one year to another. Looks like a good assistant hire, and would like to see a big man coach (preferably a former GU player with drive and enthusiasm) as well, but this one looks like a young up and comer who's had good experiences playing for and working with excellent coaches. Would a Big Man coach former/GU player type work, though? JTIII walked into Hibbert. I think Hibbert was the last of that type of C JTIII will recruit. I think Hibbs was that great of a player that he could have fit in Pops system or III's. Seems like Greg was born to play the C position in terms of running the Princeton offense, no? I'm thinking that is the direction III is going, no? Doubt it otherwise we wouldn't be recruiting Deng Leek, Andre Drummond, Jordan Omegbehim, etc. Those are all not like Greg at all.
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Post by harwoodhoya on Jun 30, 2009 16:19:02 GMT -5
Talked to AU guy yesterday. He said Brennan is a great hire. He is very good at getting players better. He said JT3 tried to get him as soon as he got the job here but he declined. As for recruiting he said he's ok but a hard worker. He said those guys definately will get better.
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Post by bigelephant on Jul 1, 2009 8:43:34 GMT -5
To paraphrase (was it Einstein?) - recruitiing is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration.
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