SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 21, 2009 14:17:57 GMT -5
I think if board members want to remember and enjoy a particularly notable Hoya Victory... good for them. As far as I can tell, there is not enough knowledge and appreciation of our Hoya Hoops history as it is. OK, this is relatively recent history, but it is a start. The game was a HUGE win for the Georgetown program. Markel Starks talked about it when asked why he chose GU. And, once again, a reminder that DFW has assembled a truly remarkable data base on Hoya History at: www.hoyabasketball.com/index2.htm Any student facing midterms, finals, papers, whatever... who is desperate for an activity to help procrastinate should visit the history section. You can spend hours and hours there.... and end up with some valuable information that will help you understand a crucial aspect of the Georgetown experience. You'll probably remember it a lot longer than whatever that term paper is about too!
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Jan 21, 2009 14:27:48 GMT -5
My only point was that I remember that day as well, and knew exactly what the thread was going to be about when I saw the title. My emotions ran the gamut from a high watching the Hoyas knock off those pretentious clowns from Duke only to then have my Gators unofficial time at the top spot ended a few short hours later. Either way, that was quite a day. Anytime Duke loses, it's a good thing. If the Gators or the Hoyas accomplish the task, then that's all the better.
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Jan 21, 2009 14:48:30 GMT -5
I've been at most of the big Georgetown wins in the past 4 years in person, from the Duke game, to the BET championship win over, Pitt to the Vandy and UNC games, to the Louisville game to clinch the BE regular season last title last year. In my mind the Duke win still tops them all.
The biggest difference between the Duke win and the other great wins was that the Duke win was totally and completely unexpected. We'd had some reasonably strong showings that year, but nothing to indicate we could stand a chance against Duke. We'd made Nova and UConn work hard, but we'd lost both those games. In our previous game we very nearly lost to USF.
So nobody I knew realistically expected us to beat Duke. We scored the first basket of that game, and I remember students taking out cameras to take a picture of the scoreboard at 2-0, since just so they could prove we'd had a lead against Duke. I didn't take a picture, but like everybody else I didn't think we had a chance. It was only at halftime that I thought we might be able to hold onto this one.
Ever since that game (and indeed, partly because of that game), I've never gone into a game thinking that we couldn't win. I went into all those other big games I listed thinking that we should win. For some of them, there were times during the game that I didn't expect to win. However, even for those the win in the end wasn't too surprising considering what I felt beforehand.
So until we play an opponent so strong that people are taking pictures of the scoreboard when we're up 2-0, no game will ever be the same as the Duke game. And I like it that way.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 21, 2009 15:01:19 GMT -5
Maybe one of these days we'll beat Duke again.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 21, 2009 15:10:10 GMT -5
Maybe one of these days we'll beat Duke again. too soon? i think so...
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robbyt
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Post by robbyt on Jan 21, 2009 15:17:11 GMT -5
The reasons this game was so huge were
a) the then-mystical Princeton offense was showcased for the nation, and they ran it clean and nastily to the embarassment of one of the NCAA's all-time greatest coaches, had Duke looking lost and confused
b) a bunch of dudes who nobody recruited and nobody heard of (Green, Hibbert, Wallace) carved Duke up with a scalpel, not just beat them but controlled the whole game and looked like they knew exactly what they were doing from start to finish.
I was in grad school in Annapolis and scalped a ticket for this game on the street 10 minutes before tipoff, $50. The seat was literally the last row, right under the roof, behind the basket. Best seat in the house because I was behind a slew of Dukies and got to yell smack at them the whole time.
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bubbrubbhoya
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Jan 21, 2009 15:20:00 GMT -5
Maybe one of these days we'll beat Duke again. Maybe one of these days we'll play Duke away from that black hole of fairness, Cameron Indoor, again.
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robbyt
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Post by robbyt on Jan 21, 2009 15:21:53 GMT -5
by the way - as far as beating Duke again, I really think we are a few adjustments away from being able to beat them right now. I was not impressed with anything Duke did last game except for Henderson's insane ups. I thought we self-destructed... but I digress.
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tgo
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Post by tgo on Jan 21, 2009 15:21:58 GMT -5
from reading the responses i think that part of my "i'm over it" feeling is that i honestly fully expected us to win that game and had been willing to wager on the game with my brother in-law who is an acc fan and G Tech alum when we debated acc vs big east earlier in the season as we do every christmas so maybe i have a slightly different feeling about it as a result. i dont at all discount that it was a great and important game, i just think this board discusses it all the time and i dont think it merits being so regularly revisited and rehashed. certainly rehashed every once in a while just not so often
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Post by smittydakid on Jan 21, 2009 15:25:11 GMT -5
Yea, that win put G-town back on the map. Jt3 outcoached K in that one. K refuse to get out of the man/man and we kept doing the back door. Even JJ 40 wasn't enough. It was perfection!
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robbyt
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Post by robbyt on Jan 21, 2009 15:28:01 GMT -5
I don't think it's a question of being over it or not, I think that in that game a lot of people saw the spark and the essence of what JTIII and the rejuvenated program were and would continue to be, so it continues.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 21, 2009 17:12:22 GMT -5
From the Duke side, two things stood out in addition to the coaching clinic JT3 gave Coach K. 1. Shelden Willams was badly outplayed by Jeff. 2. JJ Redick was unbelievable .. first time I was really impressed wtih that kid... and we STILL won the game.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Jan 21, 2009 17:14:06 GMT -5
Question for the board: how did winning against the storied program that is Duke compare to beating a legitimate hated rival in one of their better years ... for instance a Syracuse? Obviously a game that wins you a championship -- BE, BE tourny etc... -- doubtlessly has a little more importance than "merely" a regular season game against an OOC opponent. Yet, rightfully so, that game has a very special meaning to so many.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 17:24:39 GMT -5
Question for the board: how did winning against the storied program that is Duke compare to beating a legitimate hated rival in one of their better years ... for instance a Syracuse? Obviously a game that wins you a championship -- BE, BE tourny etc... -- doubtlessly has a little more importance than "merely" a regular season game against an OOC opponent. Yet, rightfully so, that game has a very special meaning to so many. I'd rather lose to Duke twenty times than lose to Syracuse once.
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Post by FLHoya on Jan 21, 2009 17:37:44 GMT -5
i realize i will be unpopular for saying this but... am i the only one who thinks this board obsesses way too much about that game? great game, big win, historic for being a turning point for the program that had been down for so long- yes to all of those and yes i watched it on tv from california so those who were there in person of course it means a little more to them, but it seems to me that a program that has since that day been to the final 4 and won a BET and two regular season BE titles would not be so stuck on nostalgia for a regular season victory. we have had so much else to celebrate and more importantly so much else to look forward to that i dont understand the continual obsession that it gets new threds about it once every couple of weeks. Likely over-celebrated, but I understand why. I think of it this way: let's say hypothetically DFW decided tomorrow that he was going to publish a book containing a series of essays about classic games in Georgetown history. Each essay would be written by a guest author who experienced the particular game in person. Which games would provide the most interesting stories?
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Jan 21, 2009 17:42:38 GMT -5
EXCEPT, in the Dance
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 21, 2009 18:21:46 GMT -5
Happy 3 Year Anniversary, 2006 Hoyas.
I'm sure the guys on the floor that day---especially the then-Seniors---will always remember it fondly as one of the better days of their careers. I will always remember it as the day the basketball world learned what everyone now knows (JTIII can really coach), what we now take for granted (the Phone Booth CAN be a real home court), that it became fun to go to home games again, and that catharsis and vindication like that feels awesome.
So, cheers to those guys for setting the stage for Gtown's resurgence. We'll never know the effects that game had on the 06 season, recruiting, the Final Four run etc., but we all know we're better off than not having played and won it. I have no problem marking its anniversary with a 3-minute post to say thanks to the coaches and players who gave our fans such joy that day.
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aggypryd
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Post by aggypryd on Jan 21, 2009 18:49:19 GMT -5
I think it's so memorable and it sticks out in so many Hoya fans' minds because the program had just fallen off so badly, and we'd become one of those teams that was battling at the end of the season for a spot in the tourney. Not the NCAA tourney, but the Big East tourney.
Very thankful for that game. Will not ever forget that one. But I, like a lot of you, am ready for some new memories.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 21, 2009 18:53:06 GMT -5
I think it's so memorable and it sticks out in so many Hoya fans' minds is because the program had just fallen off so badly, and we'd become one of those teams that was battling at the end of the season for a spot in the tourney. Not the NCAA tourney, but the Big East tourney. Very thankful for that game. Will not ever forget that one. But I, like a lot of you, am ready for some new memories. Good points, especially by someone who called the victory well before most even gave us a chance!
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hoyasexy
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Post by hoyasexy on Jan 21, 2009 19:57:13 GMT -5
I remember turning to my friend as we walked into the VC that day, saying that our only hope is if we were up by 16 at the half. I endured the second half wondering if I had doomed the team, who had a 14 lead at the half, to my worst jinx of all time. My friend didn't say a word to me until the game was over.
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