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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 10, 2008 9:23:55 GMT -5
Got the rest of the A-Teams tickets Thursday night . . . incidentally, no free stuff from the Hoop Club this year. Sad -- I was hoping for another schedule magnet. Now that I'm battling with a Duke fan for decorating space in the house, I need as much Hoyas stuff as possible! Doesn't that stuff usually come in a separate mailing? I feel like it has in the past. Cam: you are correct.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 10, 2008 19:55:32 GMT -5
Arrived in Boston today.
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Post by hoyaterp25 on Nov 11, 2008 15:03:22 GMT -5
just picked up my student tickets from mcdonough- are they not giving out metro passes this year? Didnt realize it til I was almost home, but we just got instructions on the shuttles and the tickets and that was it.
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Post by Bando on Nov 11, 2008 15:46:10 GMT -5
just picked up my student tickets from mcdonough- are they not giving out metro passes this year? Didnt realize it til I was almost home, but we just got instructions on the shuttles and the tickets and that was it. If this turns out to be the case, that's a terrible change in policy. I felt the Metro system worked great in getting students to and from games last year, and it would be a shame if Athletics thinks they don't have to help increase student turnout. However, this could have something to do with Metro's new paperless push. Was there perhaps any info on getting the money loaded to your SmarTrip?
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 11, 2008 17:41:31 GMT -5
just picked up my student tickets from mcdonough- are they not giving out metro passes this year? Didnt realize it til I was almost home, but we just got instructions on the shuttles and the tickets and that was it. If this turns out to be the case, that's a terrible change in policy. I felt the Metro system worked great in getting students to and from games last year, and it would be a shame if Athletics thinks they don't have to help increase student turnout. However, this could have something to do with Metro's new paperless push. Was there perhaps any info on getting the money loaded to your SmarTrip? There doesn't appear to be a voucher for Acela tickets from NYC to DC in my packet either...how will I EVER get to the game without the school helping me out? With that grenade, I hereby launch the annual assault on the "spoiled" younger generation of fans. You guys don't even know what it was like back in my day...
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Post by lucky on Nov 11, 2008 17:47:57 GMT -5
I hope my season tickets come with airline vouchers this year, that would be awesome...of course it would be great if my tickets actually got here before the season this year!
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Nov 11, 2008 18:09:42 GMT -5
If this turns out to be the case, that's a terrible change in policy. I felt the Metro system worked great in getting students to and from games last year, and it would be a shame if Athletics thinks they don't have to help increase student turnout. However, this could have something to do with Metro's new paperless push. Was there perhaps any info on getting the money loaded to your SmarTrip? There doesn't appear to be a voucher for Acela tickets from NYC to DC in my packet either...how will I EVER get to the game without the school helping me out? With that grenade, I hereby launch the annual assault on the "spoiled" younger generation of fans. You guys don't even know what it was like back in my day... I'm sure students will still pay their own way to get to games, that's not the issue (although it has been in previous years). It's an issue of athletics seeming going into maximum moneygrubber mode this year. Student metro fare is a relatively cheap expense that's been fantastically successful. Rescinding it now just seems petty and cheap.
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Post by sead43 on Nov 12, 2008 0:02:03 GMT -5
I was just about to post about the lack of Metro passes in my student season ticket package somewhere else before I saw this thread, and I knew it would elicit this kind of responses that it apparently already has. But you guys are totally missing the point.
The point is mainly one of misrepresentation and sneaky false advertising on the part of the AD. The inclusion of transportation to the games (in recent years in the form of shuttle buses to Rosslyn and a round-trip Metro pass for each game) has been a part of the student season ticket package for years now. Regardless of whether or not this year's ticket order form actually stated that transportation was provided, most students who bought tickets did so while under the impression that transportation was included.
To put it in perspective, not including Metro passes effectively means that students must pay $161.90 in order to get what they got last year for $100 (and that's not including the winter break games). By not including Metro passes, the AD is not providing what most of us thought we were paying for when we bought tickets.
If the AD had informed students that Metro passes would no longer be included, and explained why that step had to be taken, BEFORE students bought season tickets, then it wouldn't as big a deal because students would have been able to factor that information into their decision of whether or not to buy tickets. Instead, the AD chose to mislead students in yet another example of what Bando accurately described as the increasingly "moneygrubbing" attitude of the university towards students, which is unfortunate to say the least. And, coming from someone who wants the atmosphere at Verizon to always be improving, I think it’s dangerous for those in McDonough to start taking student fans for granted, which their actions here seem to indicate they have already.
my final point is that i find it a little presumptuous and annoying that the AD and some on this board apparently assume that all of us students are “spoiled” rich kids who won’t even think twice about a price increase like this. The truth is that for more than a few of us, $37 is not an insignificant burden, especially on top of the $125 we’re already paying for tickets. Maybe when your ticket prices rise 62% in one year, then you can criticize us for "whining".
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Post by Jack on Nov 12, 2008 0:10:59 GMT -5
Fair enough. Just remember $37 would not have covered a one-way taxi fare to the Cap Center.
Also, has anyone confirmed that the Metro cards have been discontinued, or are people jumping to conclusions?
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Post by Just Cos on Nov 12, 2008 0:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by mchoya on Nov 12, 2008 0:22:12 GMT -5
I think what's worse than the discontinuing of Metro passes is the fact that women's tickets are being distributed electronically. If the AD wants to force us to pay $25 for women's tickets, then I damn well expect for my tickets to be there when I pick up my order. Basically, the online distribution says, "We know that no majority of students are coming to the games, so we're not going to take the loss on printing and we'll pass the cost on to the students." It just screams miserly.
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Post by Just Cos on Nov 12, 2008 0:35:50 GMT -5
We know that no majority of students are coming to the games, so we're not going to take the loss on printing and we'll pass the cost on to the students." It just screams miserly. Pass the printing cost on to the students??? You have to be kidding me.
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Post by mchoya on Nov 12, 2008 0:49:52 GMT -5
Pass the printing cost on to the students??? You have to be kidding me. It's probably hyperbolic overreaction, but I will readily admit that I get more annoyed at the perception of nickel and dime action than actual price increases themselves. That being said, does anyone know the actual seating capacity at McDonough? I know Hoyabasketball.com says the capacity ranges from 2200 to 4200. The question asked is if McDonough can only hold a certain amount of people, then technically the AD could be selling more tickets than it can actually honor depending on how many students bought tickets.
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Post by vcjack on Nov 12, 2008 1:55:54 GMT -5
Fair enough. Just remember $37 would not have covered a one-way taxi fare to the Cap Center. Also, has anyone confirmed that the Metro cards have been discontinued, or are people jumping to conclusions? They have been Here's the explanation we [Hoya Blue] recieved when we protested about the discontinued Metro Passes: The decision has been made that metro cards will not be provided this year. Our stance (and we'd like you guys to share this message as well if you receive any complaints about it) is that they were provided last year as a courtesy to students since we were no longer busing students all the way to the Verizon Center like we did 2 years ago. They were used to help ease the transition, and will not be provided this year.This would make us believe that the decision is final. Our stance, however, is that subsidized transportation is very important and necessary. Since the AD will not pay for the subsidy, we are looking at alternative means of funding for next semester, paticularly through GUSA. We are very interested in hearing your comments and questions. Use this thread or email hoyablue@georgetown.edu
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Post by Boz on Nov 12, 2008 9:20:37 GMT -5
They have been Here's the explanation we [Hoya Blue] recieved when we protested about the discontinued Metro Passes: The decision has been made that metro cards will not be provided this year. Our stance (and we'd like you guys to share this message as well if you receive any complaints about it) is that they were provided last year as a courtesy to students since we were no longer busing students all the way to the Verizon Center like we did 2 years ago. They were used to help ease the transition, and will not be provided this year.This would make us believe that the decision is final. Our stance, however, is that subsidized transportation is very important and necessary. Since the AD will not pay for the subsidy, we are looking at alternative means of funding for next semester, paticularly through GUSA. We are very interested in hearing your comments and questions. Use this thread or email hoyablue@georgetown.edu Well, WMATA board chairman Chris Zimmerman went to UMCP, so you're out of luck there, but the board vice chairman & DC Council member Jim Graham is a GULC alum and has taught at Georgetown. Maybe you can hit Metro up for some kind of subsidy/promotion. God knows, they could use some good PR. You'll have to forgive me if I'm in the "this is much ado about nothing/you don't know how good you have it" camp. I am a cranky old 30-something (yeah, barely, I know....shut up!). But at least it's an idea.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 12, 2008 10:03:20 GMT -5
The athletic department is cutting back a lot of funding to various sports teams from what I hear from various athletes. Everything from not getting a new pair of shoes this year to not always being provided certain meals on away trips. It sounds like the AD is pretty strapped for cash due to the economic crisis.
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 12, 2008 11:45:44 GMT -5
How about a GU student bailout bill?
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 12, 2008 11:53:03 GMT -5
Everyone wants high student turnout at the non marquee games, right? Well, this decision by the AD will likely depress that turnout, no matter how much harder it was to get to games when the Hoyas were in the Cap Center.
Not to mention the fact that this decision was communicated very poorly by the AD. Nothing like breeding resentment in the student body by appearing to promise something then not providing it
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Post by jgalt on Nov 12, 2008 12:44:10 GMT -5
Everyone wants high student turnout at the non marquee games, right? Well, this decision by the AD will likely depress that turnout, no matter how much harder it was to get to games when the Hoyas were in the Cap Center. Not to mention the fact that this decision was communicated very poorly by the AD. Nothing like breeding resentment in the student body by appearing to promise something then not providing it This is the real reason it is a problem. whether or not you care about students having to pay the extra money, or are bitter because you had to hoof it out to the cap center, everyone should agree that this will only decrease attendance at the non marquee games. Im predicting a bitter, rambling, editorial from the hoya by Dec 1st on the topic. Also, same goes for the womens games. I was actually going to go to some of them this year. I figured, I have paid for the tickets, they supposedly have some really good freshman, and I have nothing better to do on a saturday after the mens game. If "electronic distribution" means they will email me my ticket before each game and all i have to do is print it off, then that is fine, but too many more hoops and i wont be going.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 12, 2008 13:18:19 GMT -5
If "electronic distribution" means they will email me my ticket before each game and all i have to do is print it off, then that is fine, but too many more hoops and i wont be going.
That's exactly what it means. Also if you forget to print it off i've been told you can go to the ticket office and they'll give you a new ticket. So it's really not that big of a hassle.
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