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Post by Cambridge on Oct 22, 2008 10:50:52 GMT -5
Hey SoCal -- so on the side of my Tapatio bottle where it says "es una salsa....muy salsa!" it means "it's a sauce ... very sauce!" literally and something like "it's a very saucy sauce!"? Nice. Boz, you just lost my vote. Viva Ben's. On the bright side, at least you didn't spew some blasphemy about Five Guys being better than IN-and-OUT (which, incidentally, has the best burger condiment of all: the IN-and-OUT special sauce). My friends, the time has come to recognize this thread for what it is: a lot of hot air and ideas without experience. Now, I've been in the condiment trenches for decades. My six, er, eight, er, many refrigerators and pantries...I can never keep track of how may...are filled with ketchups, mustards, BBQ sauces, hot sauces, salsas, bruchetta topping, relishes made from many different vegetables, that red pepper stuff from Whole Foods, oils, vinegars, mayonnaise (regular and safflower), peanut sauce, and general tso's. I spent years on the Hilltop and the Capitol Hill living off nothing but condiments. My friends, you should have seen the combinations I've made all in the name of ultimately serving the condiment-gobbling public: peanut butter, mayonnaise, and hot sauce on wheat; fake crab meat, olive oil, and that red pepper stuff on a torilla; I even once made a white bread, yellow mustard, and kim chi sandwhich while living in Alumni Square. But I always kept my principles: I never stooped so low as to eat SPAM or to deny another American the right to choose his or her condiment for themself---and unlike many in my party, I support a person's right to ketchup on a dog. Our friends in Los Angeles wouldn't imagine being able to eat their footlong Dodger dogs without that most-American of tomatoey dressings. That, my friends, is why you should vote for me in 2012. I've been there and eaten every possible condiment combination in existence. In fact, a very member of this HoyaTalk board has called me the Condiment King. When the phone rings at 3am and you need advice about what to put on your Jumbo Slice, Julia Empanadas, Ben's Chilli Bowl, Manny & O's, or any other late-night food place that requires an additional slathering of sauce, you want me to be answering that call; I've got more condiment combination experience and judgment than a bartender who only makes bloody marys. So my friends, I say to you: choose experience. Choose judgment. Choose Coast2Coast in 2012. I believe you are referring to "animal-style" at In-and-Out, and having eaten at both establishments many times in various different states of mind...I'm actually on the Five Guys side.
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Post by Boz on Oct 22, 2008 10:55:48 GMT -5
Boz, you just lost my vote. Viva Ben's. On the bright side, at least you didn't spew some blasphemy about Five Guys being better than IN-and-OUT (which, incidentally, has the best burger condiment of all: the IN-and-OUT special sauce). Five Guys is NOT better than In-and-Out. Even an East Coast elitist like myself knows that. Hell, it's not even better than Fatburger. But it is the best thing we have here. No one else even comes close. Come to think of it, I can get a better dog at Five Guys than I can get at Ben's. You Ben's people are really fooling yourselves. Just because something is a local institution does not mean it is good. Their chili is barely Hormel quality. You know it's true. Don't deny it. PS - I'm pretty sure I never had your vote to begin with. PPS - GREAT call on the Julia's Empanadas though. Holy Mother of God, those are good.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Oct 22, 2008 10:57:55 GMT -5
Hey SoCal -- so on the side of my Tapatio bottle where it says "es una salsa....muy salsa!" it means "it's a sauce ... very sauce!" literally and something like "it's a very saucy sauce!"? Nice. Boz, you just lost my vote. Viva Ben's. On the bright side, at least you didn't spew some blasphemy about Five Guys being better than IN-and-OUT (which, incidentally, has the best burger condiment of all: the IN-and-OUT special sauce). My friends, the time has come to recognize this thread for what it is: a lot of hot air and ideas without experience. Now, I've been in the condiment trenches for decades. My six, er, eight, er, many refrigerators and pantries...I can never keep track of how may...are filled with ketchups, mustards, BBQ sauces, hot sauces, salsas, bruchetta topping, relishes made from many different vegetables, that red pepper stuff from Whole Foods, oils, vinegars, mayonnaise (regular and safflower), peanut sauce, and general tso's. I spent years on the Hilltop and the Capitol Hill living off nothing but condiments. My friends, you should have seen the combinations I've made all in the name of ultimately serving the condiment-gobbling public: peanut butter, mayonnaise, and hot sauce on wheat; fake crab meat, olive oil, and that red pepper stuff on a torilla; I even once made a white bread, yellow mustard, and kim chi sandwhich while living in Alumni Square. But I always kept my principles: I never stooped so low as to eat SPAM or to deny another American the right to choose his or her condiment for themself---and unlike many in my party, I support a person's right to ketchup on a dog. Our friends in Los Angeles wouldn't imagine being able to eat their footlong Dodger dogs without that most-American of tomatoey dressings. That, my friends, is why you should vote for me in 2012. I've been there and eaten every possible condiment combination in existence. In fact, a very member of this HoyaTalk board has called me the Condiment King. When the phone rings at 3am and you need advice about what to put on your Jumbo Slice, Julia Empanadas, Ben's Chilli Bowl, Manny & O's, or any other late-night food place that requires an additional slathering of sauce, you want me to be answering that call; I've got more condiment combination experience and judgment than a bartender who only makes bloody marys. So my friends, I say to you: choose experience. Choose judgment. Choose Coast2Coast in 2012. I believe you are referring to "animal-style" at In-and-Out, and having eaten at both establishments many times in various different states of mind...I'm actually on the Five Guys side. I am indeed referring to Animal Style; aka The Best Style There Is. For the uninitiated, here's the list: www.tiburon-belvedere.com/cgi/home.cgi?c=In_N_Out. I respect that reasonable people can disagree about the 5G/I&O divide. After having also eaten at both places for years (many times a year, too), I definitely fall on the I&O side, though I do like all the options that 5G has.
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Post by Bando on Oct 22, 2008 11:02:20 GMT -5
I'm generally of the opinion that California fast food is better than anywhere else in the country. I mean, even Del Taco, which is nothing special, is still light years better than Taco Bell.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Oct 22, 2008 11:04:00 GMT -5
Boz, you just lost my vote. Viva Ben's. On the bright side, at least you didn't spew some blasphemy about Five Guys being better than IN-and-OUT (which, incidentally, has the best burger condiment of all: the IN-and-OUT special sauce). Five Guys is NOT better than In-and-Out. Even an East Coast elitist like myself knows that. Hell, it's not even better than Fatburger. But it is the best thing we have here. No one else even comes close. Come to think of it, I can get a better dog at Five Guys than I can get at Ben's. You Ben's people are really fooling yourselves. Just because something is a local institution does not mean it is good. Their chili is barely Hormel quality. You know it's true. Don't deny it. PS - I'm pretty sure I never had your vote to begin with. PPS - GREAT call on the Julia's Empanadas though. Holy Mother of God, those are good. I am DEFINITELY on the Julia's side of the Empanada/Jumbo Slice divide. I swear they make that pizza with motor oil and road grit. Ugh. Give me Julia's any day. Delicious stuff. Best empanadas in DC, though, are found at a little joint called "Tortilla Cafe" across the street from Eastern Mkt. Amazing. Boz, I dunno about that: that's the beauty of being an independent! I get to switch my vote and my opinions at will and it seems like thoughtful, humble decision-making as opposed to flip flopping! I think you should run on a Ba-Zing! based campaign in 2024. I like to think of it as a combination of WHAMMY! and the Buddy Christ. As for Ben's....who cares if the quality is bad and it's two steps above slop. It's spicy and delicious and reminds me just how bad it is for me the next day....every time. FWIW, a buddy of mine from SoCal was out here two weeks ago for the first time and did the Washington DC Trifecta: Ben's, Five Guys, and Wisey's. The only one he went to twice? Ben's.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Oct 22, 2008 11:06:34 GMT -5
I'm generally of the opinion that California fast food is better than anywhere else in the country. I mean, even Del Taco, which is nothing special, is still light years better than Taco Bell. Oh the Del.....good call bando. That stuff is delicious. Let's not even get into Left Coast Mexican Fast Food superiority. Neither the elite east coast elites, the cheerful midwesterners, or the real americans stand a chance against such dominance. They even have a new-and-improved hotter sauce.
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Post by Boz on Oct 22, 2008 11:07:18 GMT -5
I think if you ate at Five Guys twice in one weekend, your stomach could very well rupture.
On the other hand, I don't even want to think of the adverse health implications of eating at Ben's twice in the same weekend. The possibilities boggle the mind.
Your friend is in my prayers. ;D
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Post by Bando on Oct 22, 2008 11:11:42 GMT -5
Speaking of jumbo slice, we're lucky that we live in an age where it's dominance in Adams-Morgan is soon coming to a close. There's a Julia's up there, and I believe a hot dog place just opened up. The best jumbo slice competitor by far though is Amsterdam Falafelshop. I might be telegraphing my fake America east coast elitism here, but damn, those falafels are delicious.
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Post by nodak89 on Oct 22, 2008 11:16:37 GMT -5
Anchor: And when it comes to establishing your world food view, I was curious, what condiments did you regularly use before? What have you topped these dogs to have them be tasty and the most delicious in the world?
nodak89: I've used most of them, again with a great appreciation for the recipe, for the medium.
Anchor: What, specifically?
nodak89: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.
Anchor: Can you name a few?
nodak89: I have a vast variety of sauces where we get our flavor, too. North Dakota isn't a foreign country, where it's kind of suggested, "wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be eating when you live up there in North Dakota?" Believe me, North Dakota is like a microcosm of America.
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Post by SirSaxa on Oct 22, 2008 11:59:48 GMT -5
Anchor: And when it comes to establishing your world food view, I was curious, what condiments did you regularly use before? What have you topped these dogs to have them be tasty and the most delicious in the world? nodak89: I've used most of them, again with a great appreciation for the recipe, for the medium. Anchor: What, specifically? nodak89: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years. Anchor: Can you name a few? nodak89: I have a vast variety of sauces where we get our flavor, too. North Dakota isn't a foreign country, where it's kind of suggested, "wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be eating when you live up there in North Dakota?" Believe me, North Dakota is like a microcosm of America. Thank you for your precision and clarity, Nodak!
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Post by FormerHoya on Oct 22, 2008 13:42:39 GMT -5
If we allow ketchup on hot dogs, where does it stop? Ketchup on a Polish? Ketchup on an Italian? Ketchup on God's perfect food, the Bratwurst? This is blasphemy of the worst sort. If you order a double brat with da works, it comes with ketchup. This is indisputable, and you betray your naievete of such worldly matters by insisting otherwise. Let me guess, "you can see Johnsonville from your porch" eh? I don't even want to know what this "double brat with da works" is. To call me naive in all matters brat-related, well, now, that's just foolish. This physique is built on encased meats.
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Post by Filo on Oct 22, 2008 14:14:22 GMT -5
Late to this discussion. My take... ketchup on a dog is fine, as long as it is a combo. Combos (hot dog and hamburger together, with as many condiments and add-ons as possible) are the greatest invention ever. Had my first one almost 20 years ago during a visit to LA (Marty's, maybe? I don't remember). Mmmmm.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 22, 2008 15:10:53 GMT -5
I'm generally of the opinion that California fast food is better than anywhere else in the country. I mean, even Del Taco, which is nothing special, is still light years better than Taco Bell. I had never eaten ... or even heard of "Del Taco" until I went to Vegas many years back. I concur that it is a good bit better than Taco Bell. Even better in my opinion though was a somewhat similar, but far more authentic Mexican place. I think it was called simply, "Tacos Mexico." I'm pretty sure that it too is a western USA chain, but I don't know how many there are. In any case, one of my Vegas traditions is to go to Tacos Mexico drive thru, just north of the strip on the way to the downtown Vegas/Freemont Street area. Then I stop at this little hole-in-the-wall convenience store and pick up a tall-boy Budweiser and then head to the Plaza Hotel and Casino, where I enjoy both my food and beverage while analyzing the future bets at the sports book. It's just one of those quirky little things that became a habit after I hit the first time. So far, I have hit the Bucs to win the Super Bowl (2002 I think), the Field to win the British Open (the year that Ben Curtis won it) and ... of course the best of all was Florida to win the NCAA Hoops title 3 years ago at a whopping 60:1!!!! Getting back to the topic, is anyone else familiar with "Tacos Mexico?"
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Post by Cambridge on Oct 22, 2008 15:29:18 GMT -5
I'm generally of the opinion that California fast food is better than anywhere else in the country. I mean, even Del Taco, which is nothing special, is still light years better than Taco Bell. I had never eaten ... or even heard of "Del Taco" until I went to Vegas many years back. I concur that it is a good bit better than Taco Bell. Even better in my opinion though was a somewhat similar, but far more authentic Mexican place. I think it was called simply, "Tacos Mexico." I'm pretty sure that it too is a western USA chain, but I don't know how many there are. In any case, one of my Vegas traditions is to go to Tacos Mexico drive thru, just north of the strip on the way to the downtown Vegas/Freemont Street area. Then I stop at this little hole-in-the-wall convenience store and pick up a tall-boy Budweiser and then head to the Plaza Hotel and Casino, where I enjoy both my food and beverage while analyzing the future bets at the sports book. It's just one of those quirky little things that became a habit after I hit the first time. So far, I have hit the Bucs to win the Super Bowl (2002 I think), the Field to win the British Open (the year that Ben Curtis won it) and ... of course the best of all was Florida to win the NCAA Hoops title 3 years ago at a whopping 60:1!!!! Getting back to the topic, is anyone else familiar with "Tacos Mexico?" WTF. This is completely off topic. What we are talking about here is hotdogs and mustard - just what God intended, not some mindless babbling about Vegas. Now, I've been consulting the Good Book, and there is still time for you ketchup loving heathens to repent. Mustard will forgive. Hotdogs will forgive. Let's just hope Jesus will. On a side note, it is sad and troubling that anyone spending time on the left coast went into a taco chain...dude, just go to the smallest hole in the wall taqueria you can find. It will likely have a long line of people who do not look like they are members of the elite east coast elite. Trust me. You won't be sorry.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 22, 2008 15:31:12 GMT -5
I would like to know where the various campaigns stand on Hifi. I think that's going to be the deciding issue for me.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 22, 2008 16:37:27 GMT -5
I don't know about the rest, but I thought I was quite clear: mustard is great on hotdogs or brats, provided it is of the spicy brown variety. If crappy French's mustard is the only option, then order something else. Even that chinese spicy mustard sauce would be a better option than narly yellow mustard.
As for ketchup, I can take it or leave it, but it's not worth arguing over. Lastly, as C2C mentioned, mayo has no business in the same zip code as a burger, brat or dog.
Personally, mayo on anything heated is pretty much disgusting.
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Post by TC on Oct 22, 2008 19:05:22 GMT -5
I would like to know where the various campaigns stand on Hifi. I think that's going to be the deciding issue for me. Whoever takes the Lou Dobbs position here wins my vote. We need message board immigration reform! Boz is too liberal, I hear he wants to grant Syracuse fans usernames and passwords.
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Post by SoCalHoya on Oct 22, 2008 19:18:27 GMT -5
Hey SoCal -- so on the side of my Tapatio bottle where it says "es una salsa....muy salsa!" it means "it's a sauce ... very sauce!" literally and something like "it's a very saucy sauce!"? Nice. Yeah, that's basically saying it's a very saucy sauce. Tapatio (or Tapatia for feminine), for those playing at home, is what you call people from Jalisco, a state in Mexico. A very good and authentic salsa picante. If you want something a little more tangy/sour but perhaps not as spicy, try Valentina. Also from the state of Jalisco.
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Post by Boz on Nov 3, 2010 11:24:20 GMT -5
Mike Pence resigns as chair of the House Republican conference.
Plane tickets to Iowa have not been purchased yet, I do not believe, but it's only a matter of time.
Haley Barbour is also likely to drawl his way into the ring.
And if you don't want to talk about any of this yet, feel free to rekindle the more important debate that has occupied this thread:
Ben's Chili Bowl: Awful or Awesome? Discuss. ;D
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Post by TC on Nov 5, 2010 8:31:38 GMT -5
Next time we do this contest, we should just nominate the closest races and pick those. For example, CT-GOV, with the WWE event in Bridgeport, Bridgeport running out of ballots, and Bridgeport finding a bag of votes would have been an interesting one.
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