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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 20, 2008 18:01:34 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me why a 10-17, 136 yd day versus Troy at home is somehow worthy of the fawning going on?
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Post by SirSaxa on Sept 20, 2008 18:42:12 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me why a 10-17, 136 yd day versus Troy at home is somehow worthy of the fawning going on? If you add the 4 TDs in 10 completed passes, for 13, 38, 39 and 16 yards, and the 66 yards rushing, and that he is a freshman starting his first game, and the team was coming off getting smoked in Pasadena.... OSU fans have something to be happy about.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 20, 2008 21:00:28 GMT -5
The Tds are pretty irrelevant to me unless you are playing fantasy ball.
That performance is fine to say "encouraging" but not exactly worthy of "player of the week" award nominations.
I also don't know how encouraging a 14-10 lead on Troy in the 4th quarter is.
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Post by RDF on Sept 20, 2008 22:40:09 GMT -5
The Coliseum isn't in Pasadena--that is home of the Rose Bowl.
Good day of games-but not great.
Phil Fulmer pimping his daugther out to get recruits is blowing up in his face and couldn't happen to a bigger scumball. See ya later Fat Boy.
Tom O'Brien gets a big win today for NC State--and his program moves away from The Space Cowboy Chuck Amato's "Circus" days.
Florida State was the worst team I saw play today. It's a DISGRACE they were ranked based off beating two 1-AA teams. A DISGRACE. Jimbo "Dumbo" Fisher looks like Joe Piscapo--only Piscapo is more entertaining--which is all that needs to be said about that offensive performance.
I'll ask the question again--why is Myron Rolle considered a great player? He's a nice kid. Good student. Great future away from football and does absolutely nothing on a football field to help a team win. He's slow, out of position, easily beaten, and yet gets talked up as a "sure thing NFL 1st Rounder". Don't NFL teams watch how bad Roy Williams of Cowboys has played? Thing is--Rolle is a lesser version of Williams and certainly couldn't hold Williams jock at collegiate level.
3rd QB or not--Oregon GAGGED today. Maybe Bellotti should worry about his team more then how many uniform combos they'll debut/wear?? Nice win for Boise State.
UGA with impressive/workmanlike win--and with the SCIENCE TEACHER "get your beaker tongs out" working the game with his "Crew"--it took a lot to overcome bad officiating. The Science Teacher is the worst official in Pac 10 and his crew is the worst. Handsome Jack Wood's crew is much better--but I believe he had the Arizona-UCLA game.
Scary to say this--but I'm starting to like Alabama in the SEC West--despite their youth.
CROOM-he strikes again with another dreadful performance. They blow--and he should be fired.
Austin--I like how the Horns are coming along in prep for the OU game--they'll take Arkansas the Traitor to the woodshed next weekend.
Nice job by Canes today--not that A&M is a good team--but at least Miami faced their best QB in Johnson. How far did Fran ruin Aggies? That program could always count on tough defense and now they SUCK. I'd like to give Canes more credit--and I'm happy they won--tough place to play and for a young team to bounce back--and score--good win--but man was that Aggie defense bad.
New nickname for WVU Coach Bill Stewart "Grandpa HAPPY"--a play off Coker as Clappy--but Stewart is always smiling and showing his WVU "Butter Teeth" and looking like someone just sat on a whoopy cushion --no matter if Pat White is missing a WR by 20 yards, or if his team jsut got another 15 yard penalty for something stupid. Grandpa Happy has taken the mantle!!
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 20, 2008 23:12:58 GMT -5
Phil Fulmer pimping his daugther out to get recruits is blowing up in his face and couldn't happen to a bigger scumball. See ya later Fat Boy. The Vols still have a ton of talent (J. Crompton excepted), but it was wasted once again by stupid play and poor coaching. I'm sure hifi will beg to differ, but I saw 3 SEC teams play tonight (UGA, LSU, and Auburn) that should beat both the Gators and Vols in 08. 3rd QB or not--Oregon GAGGED today. Maybe Bellotti should worry about his team more then how many uniform combos they'll debut/wear?? Nice win for Boise State. Yeah, when Oregon smashes Pac-10 teams in their stoplight uniforms they probably look cool to someone. When they're losing to WAC teams (even WAC teams w/ BCS bowl wins) in Autzen, they're clown costumes. UGA with impressive/workmanlike win--and with the SCIENCE TEACHER "get your beaker tongs out" working the game with his "Crew"--it took a lot to overcome bad officiating. The Science Teacher is the worst official in Pac 10 and his crew is the worst. Handsome Jack Wood's crew is much better--but I believe he had the Arizona-UCLA game. I was really disappointed in ASU's defense tonight. Don't think UGA's line is that great but ASU didn't get pressure up front. Dawgs are good but I see them losing at least one in conference play. 35 for UGA is a strong candidate for Butkus Award. I said before the season the Horns had a lot of question marks. The questions have almost all been answered in a positive fashion. I thought Clement to Dillard could give the Horns' secondary problems tonight, but Horns are doing a much better job so far of not giving up the deep ball in the secondary. (Of course it helps that Rice O-Line is much worse than I remembered and Muschamp has defense playing great up front.) McCoy looks good -- off-season conditioning has helped his running game in particular and he's also making smarter decisions in the pocket. RB is still undecided but everyone is running well. You have to remember the 'Horns squeaked by Arkansas State, TCU and UCF to start the season last year, so it's good to see Texas come out of the gate strong. Looking forward to seeing us against BCS level competition next week. Really surprised this one turned into a shootout -- but given Aggie history allowing 41 at home is more embarrasing. Ever notice that at Nebraska they talk about Pelini revitalizing the Blackshirt defense but at TAMU nobody even seems to remember what the phrase Wrecking Crew means?
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Post by RDF on Sept 20, 2008 23:59:23 GMT -5
Phil Fulmer pimping his daugther out to get recruits is blowing up in his face and couldn't happen to a bigger scumball. See ya later Fat Boy. The Vols still have a ton of talent (J. Crompton excepted), but it was wasted once again by stupid play and poor coaching. I'm sure hifi will beg to differ, but I saw 3 SEC teams play tonight (UGA, LSU, and Auburn) that should beat both the Gators and Vols in 08. Yeah, when Oregon smashes Pac-10 teams in their stoplight uniforms they probably look cool to someone. When they're losing to WAC teams (even WAC teams w/ BCS bowl wins) in Autzen, they're clown costumes. I was really disappointed in ASU's defense tonight. Don't think UGA's line is that great but ASU didn't get pressure up front. Dawgs are good but I see them losing at least one in conference play. 35 for UGA is a strong candidate for Butkus Award. I said before the season the Horns had a lot of question marks. The questions have almost all been answered in a positive fashion. I thought Clement to Dillard could give the Horns' secondary problems tonight, but Horns are doing a much better job so far of not giving up the deep ball in the secondary. (Of course it helps that Rice O-Line is much worse than I remembered and Muschamp has defense playing great up front.) McCoy looks good -- off-season conditioning has helped his running game in particular and he's also making smarter decisions in the pocket. RB is still undecided but everyone is running well. You have to remember the 'Horns squeaked by Arkansas State, TCU and UCF to start the season last year, so it's good to see Texas come out of the gate strong. Looking forward to seeing us against BCS level competition next week. Really surprised this one turned into a shootout -- but given Aggie history allowing 41 at home is more embarrasing. Ever notice that at Nebraska they talk about Pelini revitalizing the Blackshirt defense but at TAMU nobody even seems to remember what the phrase Wrecking Crew means? You know I'm a big fan of Muschamp--so I had more faith in him--then anything. Colt McCoy also has better OL play this year-and is making quicker decisions with football. I just want them to beat on Stoops/Venables who are up to their "tough guy" ACT again. Canes were up big before Aggies tacked on some late TD's--so that wasn't a concern--not to mention the youth that played for Miami today. It's so obvious that Miami is going to be good a lot sooner then FSU--that was an AWFUL game. Arizona State was overmatched--that score wasn't indicitive of how far apart those teams were--but the SCIENCE TEACHER and his "guys" made some pathetic calls--and for those who haven't seen/don't watch the Pac 10--those weren't "homer" calls for the Pac 10--that crap happens EVERY game played-and USC gets those calls AGAINST them more then anyone. Fulmer kicking to Brandon James after what James has done to them past 2 years-he deserved the punt return. What a moron that fat pig is--and glad he took it on the chin. Alabama vs UGA next weekend--game I've got circled Saturday!! Potential to see the best 2 FR WR's to enter CFB in a while--AJ Green and Julio Jones. Green has been shocking as to how good he is--thought he was nice in HS-but he's so much better then I expected--this soon. An under the radar game to pay attention to--UNC at Miami. This is going to be a BLOODBATH after Butch Davis tried to use Sean Taylor's death as a reason to "leave Miami" to many of the Canes FR during their recruitment. Said it's "too dangerous" to live there and funny considering he coached at Miami as an Assistant and Head Coach--so it wasn't "bad" for his family 2 times. UNC has upgraded talent tremendously--and was cruising today against VTech--until their QB went down--and then Greg Paulus younger brother came in-and was awful.
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Post by FLHoya on Sept 21, 2008 1:04:19 GMT -5
The best game I saw all day on TV was a FCS game--#5 James Madison coming back from 21-0 down at the half to beat #1 App State 35-32. I caught it right at the opening kick of the second half--which JMU returned for a touchdown--and then JMU's QB Rodney Landers took a zone-read play 62 yards on the first play of their next drive to cut it to 21-14 within 2 minutes or so. Dude had a crazy game, he was basically unstoppable in the second half on his feet and the mere threat of him making a play with his feet contributed to two other TDs (he faked a QB draw and got a receiver behind the D, and did a flip play to the weak side near the goal line). Both he and Armanti Edwards were over 100 yards on the ground. JMU actually went on a 35-3 run in the second half to go up 35-24 before App State pulled one back with about 90 secs to go--and Armanti basically flung himself into the endzone from the five on the 2-pt conversion. Pretty cool as the LSU-Auburn game was going on to see another Top Ten (actually Top Five) showdown where the crowd had a huge impact--JMU drew 17,000+ (i.e. well more than GTown will draw all season) and the crowd had this great "FCS" quality to it--streamers and pounding on the metal railings and on-field mics picking up every curse word you can imagine from the crowd. Cool stuff. A crucial side note--JMU might jump all the way to #1 b/c of the win, but if they don't...that title will go to soon-to-be GTown Hoyas opponent Richmond. RDF--feel the same way about the Miami game today. Good to see them put points on the board (been a loooooooong time since they put up 40 I bet), and I like Marve more every game--dude really sticks in there in the pocket and he has a cannon--but TAMU's defense was absolute crap when Miami was still trying. The announcers talked up Patrick Nix's performance so much I began to wonder if money changed hands somewhere in this process or if TAMU was taking a dive. Why the heck don't GTown's inside WR screens work that well all the time? Nice to see Cooper...ya know...run through those gaping holes in the line. ;D Miami-UNC next week is a crucial one for another reason...even granting how even the ACC is this season...if Miami wins, UNC will be 0-2 in conference and two losses + a tiebreaker behind UM and Va Tech in that division. Schedule is much easier after that, but it could be a knockout game for one of the four legit contenders for the Coastal Division. FSU being ranked...well that was about what we thought it would be...except instead of funny it was kinda sad and reeeeeeeeeally boring. Miami's light years ahead right now in getting back to prominence IMO.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Sept 21, 2008 8:02:10 GMT -5
Vandy is unstoppable. That is all.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Sept 21, 2008 9:10:18 GMT -5
Vandy is unstoppable. That is all. hm First place in the SEC East!
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 21, 2008 15:22:49 GMT -5
Further thoughts on this week's action:
I'll start with ABC/ESPN.
1. College football is played on Saturdays. When y'all added a Thursday game, that was fine. This week, games were played on national cable television on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. That is ridiculous. The National Football League might get away with crap like that if it wanted to (although the NFL is smarter than that), because attending an NFL game is far inferior an experience to attending a CFB game. If you show up to Giants Stadium early, you get to hang out in a parking lot in a flooded swamp in New Jersey with a bunch of locals. If you show up to Beaver Stadium early, you can walk through a college campus, listen to the band, cheerleaders and other groups do their thing on campus prior to kickoff, and meet up with alumni who came in from Philly, Pittsburgh, New York, and Chicago. It's an experience that is better in person than it is on television. Playing a game on Wednesday night says TV ratings and TV exposure matter more than the CFB gameday experience.
2. Speaking of the CFB gameday experience, Kirk Herbstreit never gets it. Last Saturday he sat in a booth outside Montgomery before being whisked away by private jet to Sun Devil Stadium. Dan Jenkins (God of all Gods when it comes to college football writing) always said what happens before kickoff on Saturdays was his favorite part of the college football game. Herbstreit used to be a good analyst who put effort into his commentary on College Gameday -- now he's a "media personality" who shows up on location just to yap and who voices Outback commercials in his spare time. For anyone with an IQ over 70, this development has made watching both Gameday and the Saturday night game with Musberger/Herbstreit crew fairly unpleasant.
3. If I am going to be forced by regional coverage to view hideous maroon uniforms, pretend soldiers, and Kyle Field on Saturday afternoon, at least get an HD camera to B-CS so I can see the ugliness in full high definition.
On to actual games:
I have to compliment Les Miles and the rest of the LSU coaching staff for last night's performance. The Bayou Bengals executed extremely well last night and gutted out a tough win. Once again, the SEC provides another enjoyable early-season matchup -- the matchup of Tigers was the best game I saw yesterday.
Mizzou took its time putting away Buffalo -- I'm starting to believe BuffaloHoya when he says Turner Gill has got his team playing much better football. This game is also a sign that when Mizzou makes mistakes on offense they are vulnerable -- Tiger defense is not good enough to keep them in games on its own.
Gene Chizik's Iowa State team lost to UNLV in Sin City this weekend, but showed guts to come back and force overtime. The Cyclones have a young but talented QB -- they probably won't make a bowl this season, but my guess is they'll catch some team in the Big 12 sleeping this fall and pull an upset.
One game to watch next weekend is TCU (4-0) at Oklahoma (3-0). The last time the Horned Frogs and Sooners clashed in Norman, the team wearing purple and white won 17-10. So, this is a revenge game of sorts, but Gary Patterson has the Frog defense playing very good football -- they have won all four of their games convincingly so far -- including a 31-14 win over Stanford in Fort Worth. I expect the Sooners to win this one, but I also expect Texas Christian to stay in the game.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 21, 2008 16:00:12 GMT -5
I had the misfortune of listening to the Miami-A&M game on the way back from Georgetown-Yale. It was not a good afternoon.
In its last 25 games, Georgetown is 4-21. At the rate Sherman is going, he won't see 13 in College Station. The big money folks at Kyle Field (a very foreign concept at Georgetown) are not going to long put up with the lack of preparation and execution that Sherman is bringing to the table.
TCU is a great team to watch and while OU should win by 14-17, it'll be a 60 minute game. Schools like Georgetown would do well to emulate the expectations that Gary Patterson has brought to that medium-sized program as a whole.
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Post by FewFAC on Sept 21, 2008 20:07:59 GMT -5
Is this the College Football board or Hifi's Journey Down Memory Lane?Quiz: When did posters stop reading Hifi's recent post? A. After the first sentence, since I knew it would be Gator-centric. B. After the second sentence, since I knew it was going to be one of those ridiculously boring recollections that are irrelevant to the subject being discussed. C. Midway through. I try to read HiFi's marijuana-induced nonsensical posts for the sheer entertainment value, but I fell asleep somewhere in the middle of this one. D. None of the above, since I don't read any of Hifi's posts. D.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 22, 2008 10:57:53 GMT -5
FewFac, nice to see you too.
As for the comment about Bama, I think they are still untested, but from what I have seen, I am very impressed. Arkansas is really bad this year, and that lopsided contest really didn't give much of a read on Bama. Still, they did what they needed to do and given the upsets and close games that other teams seem to have, you have to credit the Tide for the resounding victory. I agree that they will contend with Auburn and LSU for the west. LSU's win at Auburn puts the orange and blue tigers in bad shape for the west title though. They have virtually no margin for error now. They need to hope LSU loses 2 conference games, whil Auburn runs the rest of the table. They could, but I am really not impressed by their offense. Had it not been for a terrible pass and great athletic play by an Auburn D-lineman, LSU would have been controlling that game all along. Prediction for Auburn-Tennessee this weekend: the total points scored will be under 30.
As for Florida, I understand the hesitancy to praise the Gators. Miami and Tennessee are still both down from their traditional levels, so those victories aren't as impressive as other years. That being said, what is happening is that the Gators are playing more and more like a team. The same attitude that the '06-'07 National Championship team had is beggining to take shape in this team. It's still a bit odd that we aren't the potent offensive powerhouse that we arguably should be, but the bottom line is that the young defense is loaded with playmakers and they are coming into their own. Meyer is content to win ugly and eschew style points. Oh wel, just win baby.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 23, 2008 16:54:35 GMT -5
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 23, 2008 21:02:21 GMT -5
Week 5 Picks for Games That Matter:
Ohio State over Minnesota (shocker: Gophers actually have the better record heading into the Horseshoe) UNC over Miami-FL Michigan State over Indiana for the Old Brass Spittoon Northwestern upsets Iowa -- Wildcats move to 5-0 Texas over Arkansas UCLA bounces back against Fresno State Wisconsin over Michigan Colorado over Florida St. West Virginia over Marshall in the Friends of Coal Bowl Auburn over Tennessee Purdue over Notre Dame for the Shillalegh Trophy Oklahoma over Texas Christian Alabama over UGA New Mexico over NMSU in a Rio Grande Rivalry Game* Nebraska BIG over Va. Tech -- Big Red Nation goes crazy, reclaims title of world's most annoying fanbase PSU over Illinois in Happy Valley UNLV over Nevada for the Fremont Cannon
*These new, advertising sponsor driven all-sport rivalries (Texas and TAMU have the Lone Star Showdown, KU and K-State have the Sunflower Showdown, Duke and UNC have the Carlyle Cup, etc.) suck. Are we really to believe a men's swimming meet has the same importance as the Longhorns and Aggies on the day after Thanksgiving (or, this year, Thanksgiving night -- that's a whole other rant). What happens if New Mexico has a men's water polo team but NMSU doesn't? Does the latter forefeit? It's especially stupid when schools ditch their football trophies -- the NM schools used to play for the Maloof Trophy -- in favor of a fall game on the gridiron becoming a cog in the all-sports-trophy sponsored by Poulan Weedeaters wheel.
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Post by RDF on Sept 24, 2008 12:02:28 GMT -5
I hate stuff like this because it just starts up stupid things that don't matter until we near the END of the season. KCHoya is right-NOBODY is invincible--they are college athletes and if it was as easy as saying "These guys are better then these guys"--no reason to watch the games. SEC football is great. As Austin said above--the LSU-Auburn game was outstanding and fun to watch. That being said--this is same Auburn team that barely beat Mississippi State the weak prior in a 3-2 game. That same Mississippi State team lost to Louisiana Tech and last Saturday to Georgia TECH--not UGA--38-7--and btw--Georgia Tech was playing with their BACKUP QB all game. So can we do away with this "supremacy" about conferences. The SEC is a great league--filled with most talent in any league--but that doesn't mean every team is superior to other leagues/teams. You can't give credit to Florida for beating Tennessee or LSU for beating Auburn and then discredit the fact those teams lost to UCLA or almost lost to a bad team. It should be judged in similar fashion--that every league is filled with tough games. Players/Coaches see you every year--don't fear you, and know more about your tendencies/weakness. I'm just tired of the "SEC is so great........" that gives them the autonomy to make arguments based on opinions--not facts.
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 24, 2008 12:09:40 GMT -5
"*These new, advertising sponsor driven all-sport rivalries (Texas and TAMU have the Lone Star Showdown, KU and K-State have the Sunflower Showdown, Duke and UNC have the Carlyle Cup, etc.) suck. Are we really to believe a men's swimming meet has the same importance as the Longhorns and Aggies on the day after Thanksgiving (or, this year, Thanksgiving night -- that's a whole other rant). What happens if New Mexico has a men's water polo team but NMSU doesn't? Does the latter forefeit? It's especially stupid when schools ditch their football trophies -- the NM schools used to play for the Maloof Trophy -- in favor of a fall game on the gridiron becoming a cog in the all-sports-trophy sponsored by Poulan Weedeaters wheel. "
Just thought I would throw in that UCLA and USC have had an all-sports rivalry for years, and it's taken very seriously. Football and basketball may predominate, but believe me, the fans are also interested in volleyball, track, etc. These schools want to beat each other in everything. Perhaps this is the exception to the rule.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 24, 2008 13:30:06 GMT -5
Austin, no pick for Florida hosting Ole Miss? Is it that much of a walk in the park that it doesn't even warrant a pick? We should win easily, but Ole Miss isn't horrible.
RDF, we don't need to have the same old tired argument about the SEC vs. other conferences. But last year you were fawning all over the Pac 10 and even claiming its superiority to the SEC at times. Well what a difference a year makes. The Pac 10 is looking more and more dreadful every week. Oregon and Arizona St.'s losses continued to tarnisht the conference image next week. I didn't study the numbers from the link that kc posted, but I would expect that once conference games are all that is left, the stregth of schedule element will continue to hurt USC such to the point that they might be behind a one-loss SEC team. I'm not saying that is the "right" thing to do or more "fair" than the alternative, but you can at least understand how such numbers might work out in that way, at least in this particular season.
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Post by RDF on Sept 24, 2008 14:13:51 GMT -5
Last year I believe the Pac 10 was better then the SEC--but I've never clamored for one conference being superior-I just say I ENJOY watching the Pac 10. Last year there wasn't a dominant team or conference-and to say the SEC was "best" when Arkansas was wacked by Missouri-despite beating the UNWARRANTED "National Champion" in Baton Rouge or Florida losing to a mediocre Michigan team--in Orlando.
Again--I'm just saying I tire of the SEC supremacy bullcrap. You play who is on schedule. I have bashed the Pac 10 performance so far this year--but league play can't be bashed until it plays out. ACC got bombed by everyone first week--and rightfully so and look what has happened since? My issue with SEC zealots is they always bash others and never acknowledge their own mediocrity--see the Mississippi State-Auburn game. It wasn't "Man Auburn might not be that good" it was "That is how DEEP/GREAT the SEC is"--then Bulldogs get clocked by Georgia Tech with a backup QB by 25 pts--despite losing by 1 pt to Auburn--whose defeat to LSU is a sign of "SEC Greatness".
SEC fans hate people who just enjoy CFB and don't make generalizations--they understand it's about matchups and games are played by kids. You use facts/logic with SEC fans--you get people like Hifi coming around here and trying to understand why "The high powered offense hasn't dominated like I thought". You do realize that Texas A&M scored as many points on Miami's defense as Florida right? Just wanted to remind you of that. Not a knock on Gators--they have a good team this year--but the reality is what it is--and in SEC country reality isn't spoken.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 24, 2008 15:31:28 GMT -5
I understand your point totally. That being said, I do think the SEC is the best conference year in and year out. The key is that in any given year there is another conference jockeying for that "best" spot. But it's not the same conference each year. Last year the question was is the SEC better, or is the Pac 10 better? This year it is whether the SEC is the best or the Big 12? In a couple of years, I expect to see Miami and even FSU get back to their National prominence. The question might then be if the SEC or the ACC is the best. But virtually every year the SEC is in the mix of best two conferences. Secondly, if you look at NFL rosters, you will see SEC dominance as clearly as in any other way. But enough on that.
As for Florida, I'm not sure how my saying "the high-powered offesnse hasn't dominated like I thought" is grounds for my being unreasonable, illogical or argumentative.
As for Auburn, I think their offense is terrible. I said as much after that Miss St. game. I said it might be easy to think of it as a classic defensive battle between two solid defenses, but what I saw was two anemic offenses.
Finally as for the conference as a whole, I think it is pretty clear that the league is up this year. In LSU, Georgia and Florida you have 3 teams that look to be competetive with any other team in the Country. Alabama is still somewhat of an unknown quantity, but thusfar has been impressive. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Arkansas and Miss. St. are pretty much awful, but at least early in the season, Kentucky and Vanderbilt both look to at least be decent. Ole Miss is mediocre but I do still think that overall Auburn is a good, but not great team. With that offense, they simply can't be called "great." I don't think Tennessee is as bad from a talent and athletecism standpoint, but boy are they poorly coached. I'm pretty sure Fulmer will be gone by the end of the season. The natives were really, really restless last weekend. Lastly, South Carolina will probably end up being a borderline bowl team, although with 137 bowls, that really isn't saying much.
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