hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 15, 2008 11:41:18 GMT -5
Aside from the Pac-1, this was as bad a weekend as the Pac 10 has had in some time. The UCLA result didn't shock me so much (well, 59-0 did, but I thought that a USC/OSU type beatdown was a realistic possibility), but Cal and ASU? Can't fathom those results. And Oregon barely survived and has quarterback issues. It looks like USC's second team could win the Pac 10.
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Post by RDF on Sept 15, 2008 11:59:02 GMT -5
ASU got up--and starting thinking about the UGA game--and it bit them in end. Remember-UNLV almost beat a good Utah team week before--so no excuse. I'll say this--I thought UGA would beat ASU pretty easily-but this game is more dangerous now for UGA that Sun Devils lost--because they'll take them lightly on film. Arizona was Stoops-ed. They can't deal with prosperity and yet I still am thinking their game with USC will be the "Upset Alert" for Trojans--it's played during November and that is when Stoops seems to sneak up and beat someone he shouldn't. Never try to understand the Pac 10--just enjoy it. Strange, quirky, and they die when you expect them to flex, and they rise when you think they are dead. It's just a strange, strange league and I love it--warts, hiccups, AWFUL officiating, and all. Really like what Paul Johnson is doing at Georgia Tech--and was hoping they could pull it out against the Hokies--who btw wore an Orange Jersey with "Cranberry" sleeves/trim--truly something nearing Oregon level of UGLY. Also keeping my eye on Pelini--he's got Nebraska playing much tougher and in about 100 times better shape physically. How is Florida State ranked after beating TWO Sub-Division 1 teams? They beat Western Carolina and Chattanooga and get into the top 25? They also scheduled one of those teams knowing they were suspending players for cheating academically. So it's really a 1 game suspension--this week against Wake Forest--who I hope beats Bowden. Penn State is a team to watch--they can make a run at an undefeated season in Big 10 this year--better QB has made them dangerous and they have best skill talent in Big 10 right now. I really like Clark for their offense--of course I'd like Paterno himself better then Anthony Morelli. Oklahoma is doing their Spurrier imitation--peaking in September. They'll be a team to watch when they get in a game--as Washington has folded it up. You knew they would either come out deflated or higher then high-but they were beat up and Willingham is a goner. Sooners are better then I thought--but Stoops team did same thing last year--and once they got punched in mouth--their play tailed off--even in wins. Still think Texas can give them trouble. Cal looked like they slept for 3 1/2 quarters and then came back too late. Oregon kept fighting and that is difference between them coming back to win. They showed urgency/tempo while Cal was not in a hurry and gave up plays/time on clock. Question for anyone not named HiFi---who would win in a coaches eating contest: A. Friedgen B. Weis C. Mangino D. John Goodman--Adams College (had to have 4 for true question) USF-Kansas game was great--atmosphere and entertaining game. Nice of KU to step up and play someone this year--and despite losing--that is what makes your program better in longrun. USC-Ohio State atmosphere is what CFB is all about and makes it so damn great. Awesome build up for game--great setting, and just the first of "BIG GAMES" during a season that makes it fun to have CFB back. Trojans are fun team to watch and yet I still laugh at the pundits who discount the Pac 10 based on their bad day of games on Saturday. When you are in a conference--you play every year and you don't fear the best team like others do. You also have guys who know the players, know the system, and it's about execution. Like every year--there is going to be 2-3 games where the best teams will have to find a way to win or hold on to win-and it's amazing nobody has figured this out. No matter how great a team is--there will be a few games you have to fight/claw to win. Doesn't matter if you are USC, Florida, UGA, Oklahoma, etc.....--it's how sports work--and yet the media still doesn't get it.
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Post by vcjack on Sept 15, 2008 13:13:08 GMT -5
"Penn State is a team to watch--they can make a run at an undefeated season in Big 10 this year--better QB has made them dangerous and they have best skill talent in Big 10 right now. I really like Clark for their offense--of course I'd like Paterno himself better then Anthony Morelli"
They've looked pretty good so far but they haven't played ANYBODY yet. Beating up on Coastal Carolina, Oregon State and Syracuse does not automatically make them an elite team (and neither will their pummling of Temple) Lets see how they do against Illinois (and see which Illinois team shows up)
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Post by hifigator on Sept 15, 2008 13:49:57 GMT -5
RDF wrote: Question for anyone not named HiFi---who would win in a coaches eating contest: A. Friedgen B. Weis C. Mangino D. John Goodman--Adams College (had to have 4 for true question)Why would I not be eligible for that question? There isn't a Gator or Hoya connection that I know of. In any case, I would think that Phil Fulmer is a bit upset to not at least get honorable mention. As to FSU being ranked, I think it is a case where they have been good for so long in the past and they are winning by such large scores that the voters just "want" them to be good. Also, they (voters) probably realize how "down" the ACC is this year and are expecting FSU to win enough during the season to finish ranked. Just a guess .... Two things that I noticed in the polls: who is the highest ranked team with one loss already? Ohio State, imagine that. And they play almost no one the rest of the year. They do travel to Wisconsin and play Illinois, but that's it. Don't be surprised if they finish the year with just one loss, but given the way the last 3 "Big" games have gone for them, I think they may very well get left on the outside looking in for all the marbles. And secondly, Auburn in the top ten after barely squeeking by Mississippi State 3-2? ? Coming into the year, I thought they were a bit of a sleeper team, with Florida, Georgia and LSU getting most of the headlines, but after that incredibly boring game, I am pretty sure they are not the real deal. Although some might say it was a tough, hard-nosed defensive gem by two teams, I would disagree. I don't know how "good" those defenses will ultimately prove to be, but what I saw were two anemic offenses. I didn't see any of the Illinois game, but the score was a lot closer than I would have expected. Did anyone watch it? I agree with RDF on Pelini. He sure looks to have Big Red moving in the right direction. That USF game was fun to watch and they are really building quite a home-field advantage in Tampa. Lastly, I don't think that BYU did us any favors by waxing UCLA like they did. I just hope the Gators won't pay any attention to that game. Tennessee is good enough to pull off the upset, especially at home.
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Post by RDF on Sept 15, 2008 15:16:26 GMT -5
"Penn State is a team to watch--they can make a run at an undefeated season in Big 10 this year--better QB has made them dangerous and they have best skill talent in Big 10 right now. I really like Clark for their offense--of course I'd like Paterno himself better then Anthony Morelli" They've looked pretty good so far but they haven't played ANYBODY yet. Beating up on Coastal Carolina, Oregon State and Syracuse does not automatically make them an elite team (and neither will their pummling of Temple) Lets see how they do against Illinois (and see which Illinois team shows up) True--but they've HAMMERED these teams and Oregon State might not be as bad as everyone thinks. They did beat Hawaii by about as badly as Florida did this past weekend--although you have to take into account the difference in playing opening game and 3rd game of year. Think Beavers will be one of those teams whose game does NOT travel--but will be tough to play in Corvallis.
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Post by hoyamac22 on Sept 15, 2008 17:34:33 GMT -5
News Flash...USC's 2nd team could win a National Championship, not just the Pac 10.
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Post by hoyamac22 on Sept 15, 2008 17:39:36 GMT -5
Also I know how all the SEC fans say that is is because of their stellar defenses that no one scores in that league, but 3 to 2 and you actually move up in the rankings!!! Auburn is the most overrated team out there. There offense is disgusting, and i haven't seen them go against an offense that could actually score more than 10 points against Jerry's Kids, so this ranking is absurd.
Also, ASU was definitely looking past New Mexico, but I still have them taking UGA, another vaunted SEC team that is overrated.
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Post by vcjack on Sept 15, 2008 17:57:23 GMT -5
Also I know how all the SEC fans say that is is because of their stellar defenses that no one scores in that league, but 3 to 2 and you actually move up in the rankings!!! Auburn is the most overrated team out there. There offense is disgusting, and i haven't seen them go against an offense that could actually score more than 10 points against Jerry's Kids, so this ranking is absurd. Also, ASU was definitely looking past New Mexico, but I still have them taking UGA, another vaunted SEC team that is overrated. Auburn actually moved down in the AP poll
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Post by hoyamac22 on Sept 15, 2008 18:02:32 GMT -5
Still....10
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 15, 2008 20:18:18 GMT -5
Also I know how all the SEC fans say that is is because of their stellar defenses that no one scores in that league, but 3 to 2 and you actually move up in the rankings!!! Auburn is the most overrated team out there. There offense is disgusting, and i haven't seen them go against an offense that could actually score more than 10 points against Jerry's Kids, so this ranking is absurd. Also, ASU was definitely looking past New Mexico, but I still have them taking UGA, another vaunted SEC team that is overrated. Perhaps ASU was looking past New Mexico because they played UNLV. Arizona played New Mexico. But we get your drift. ;D
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Post by hifigator on Sept 16, 2008 11:10:12 GMT -5
Also I know how all the SEC fans say that is is because of their stellar defenses that no one scores in that league, but 3 to 2 and you actually move up in the rankings!!! Auburn is the most overrated team out there. There offense is disgusting, and i haven't seen them go against an offense that could actually score more than 10 points against Jerry's Kids, so this ranking is absurd. Also, ASU was definitely looking past New Mexico, but I still have them taking UGA, another vaunted SEC team that is overrated. Perhaps ASU was looking past New Mexico because they played UNLV. Arizona played New Mexico. But we get your drift. ;D So you're saying they were looking way, WAY past New Mexico then. You can't really blame them.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 17, 2008 14:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 18, 2008 23:59:22 GMT -5
Nice win for CU tonight in BOULDER COLORADO HOME OF THE BUFFS! (Dan Hawkins reminds of Pete Carroll if Pete Carrol were insane.) In related news, it would take a very stupid man to undo what Don Nehlen started and Rich Rodriguez continued at West Virginia. Bill Stewart just might be stupid enough.
Week 4 Picks For Games That Matter:
East Carolina over NC State Pitt over Iowa Georgia Tech over Mississippi State Alabama over Arkansas Arizona over UCLA N. Carolina over Va. Tech Michigan State over Notre Dame Miami FL shuts out TAMU at Kyle Field Oregon over Boise State Florida over Tennessee Ole Miss over Vanderbilt Wake Forest over FSU Texas squeaks by Rice in a too-close-for-comfort game Cincinnati over Miami OH for the Victory Bell TCU over SMU for the Iron Skillet Arizona State over Georgia UTEP over NMSU for the Silver Spade and the Brass Spittoon in the Battle of I-10 (NB: Normally this would be Game 1 of the Rio Grande Championship, but UTEP and New Mexico don't play in 2008)
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Post by kghoya on Sept 19, 2008 9:20:03 GMT -5
nehlen had plenty of crap seasons at wvu
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 19, 2008 9:36:41 GMT -5
nehlen had plenty of crap seasons at wvu Which ones? Nehlen was in Morgantown for 20 years and posted only 4 losing records. Perhaps some of the credit should go to Bobby Bowden -- WVU's first good coach, but as I understand it the 'eers were crummy before and after Bowden. I'm not saying Nehlen was a great or visionary coach -- he wasn't. What he did was establish WVU football as a consistent program within the college football ranks, through longevity and consistent winning seasons.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 19, 2008 11:29:02 GMT -5
nehlen had plenty of crap seasons at wvu Which ones? Nehlen was in Morgantown for 20 years and posted only 4 losing records. Perhaps some of the credit should go to Bobby Bowden -- WVU's first good coach, but as I understand it the 'eers were crummy before and after Bowden. I'm not saying Nehlen was a great or visionary coach -- he wasn't. What he did was establish WVU football as a consistent program within the college football ranks, through longevity and consistent winning seasons. West Virginia has been a foe that has run the gamut of emotions for me as a Gator. Probably the least fun I had at a game was the Peach Bowl, I think in 1981. We were supposed to fly up with my cousin who was a pilot, but the weather didn't allow it. Instead we drove up for a noon kickoff. Then it went downhill from there. We lost 26-6 in one of the 2 or 3 coldest games I have ever been to. (I know, all you Buffalo/Green Bay/Chicago etc... fans are chuckling, but for us southern folks, that cold rainy day in Atlanta, in the old Fulton County stadium was miserable. Some ten or twelve years later though, we got them back. We played an undefeated Mountaineer team that thought they were snubbed by not having a shot at the mythical National Championship. We slapped 'em silly in a 41-7 massacre in the Sugar Bowl and partied it up on Bourbon Street.
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Post by Filo on Sept 19, 2008 12:31:51 GMT -5
Is this the College Football board or Hifi's Journey Down Memory Lane?
Quiz:
When did posters stop reading Hifi's recent post?
A. After the first sentence, since I knew it would be Gator-centric.
B. After the second sentence, since I knew it was going to be one of those ridiculously boring recollections that are irrelevant to the subject being discussed.
C. Midway through. I try to read HiFi's marijuana-induced nonsensical posts for the sheer entertainment value, but I fell asleep somewhere in the middle of this one.
D. None of the above, since I don't read any of Hifi's posts.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 19, 2008 13:38:09 GMT -5
West Virginia has been a foe that has run the gamut of emotions for me as a Gator. Probably the least fun I had at a game was the Peach Bowl, I think in 1981. We were supposed to fly up with my cousin who was a pilot, but the weather didn't allow it. Instead we drove up for a noon kickoff. Then it went downhill from there. We lost 26-6 in one of the 2 or 3 coldest games I have ever been to. (I know, all you Buffalo/Green Bay/Chicago etc... fans are chuckling, but for us southern folks, that cold rainy day in Atlanta, in the old Fulton County stadium was miserable. Some ten or twelve years later though, we got them back. We played an undefeated Mountaineer team that thought they were snubbed by not having a shot at the mythical National Championship. We slapped 'em silly in a 41-7 massacre in the Sugar Bowl and partied it up on Bourbon Street. You do realize you tell this same story every time the words "West Virginia" are posted on this board, right?
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Post by hifigator on Sept 19, 2008 13:47:59 GMT -5
Actually, I don't remember telling it to you before, but I will take your word for it. Filo, I will give you credit for that one. That was pretty funny. It reminds me of the time I ....
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Post by vcjack on Sept 20, 2008 16:40:17 GMT -5
I'd imagine that this is Fulmer's last season in Knoxville.
It also might be Ferentz's last in Iowa City
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