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Post by kchoya on Jan 3, 2009 0:18:17 GMT -5
I don't know who is watching the Sugar Bowl but between the spot and the false start on the shift, Utah can't be liking the way this is headed. Wow. Edit: It doesn't matter. Good. So hilarity ensues. Fox says "Let the discussion begin...as to the best Utah team in history." Oh wow, thanks Fox. Utah is undefeated. They've matched Florida's most impressive win (Alabama neutral) and after Texas Tech's loss, arguably Oklahoma's most impressive victory as well (TCU at home). Oh yeah they beat this other team that may be the one loss for USC. Maybe the discussion should begin on another topic. Actually, it's a good debate. I think the '04 team was better. Unfortunately, they got stuck with Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl - not quite the same level as Bama. Oh yeah, go Utes! Suck that Barry Switzer. And shut the F@#! up Saban - crying about their lack of depth on the O line. You're playing a non-BCS school and you're whining about not having enough players? Utah has to be ranked 2 or 3 when this is all over.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 3, 2009 1:38:16 GMT -5
Wow, I'm really looking forward to next week's match-ups of Utah vs. USC and Texas (assuming they dismantle Ohio State) versus the Oklahoma-Florida winner. This playoff format is awesome!
Huh? What's that?
Up yours, BCS and all of the conference commissioners, etc.
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Post by RDF on Jan 3, 2009 3:22:12 GMT -5
What was funny about tonight's game--I thought Utah overwhelmed Alabama with SPEED which is what we always here is to SEC's huge advantage. Bama looked like they were stuck in mud while Utah was flying around and really impressive tonight. I was one who never bought into Bama's hype--they were "crowned" a great team after their win over Clemson--who just flat out STUNK this season. From there on, they played 1 great Half of football--in Athens against UGA and then lost to only good team they faced in Florida.
Funny thing is-I watched Oregon State go into Utah, outplay them--as did TCU--and Utes found a way to win both games--with help of officials horrendous call on missed 2 pt play to help them and TCU's kicker gagging on them. This game is in "SEC" country and Tide got gangster slapped all over the field and were slower team. Nice of Nick Saban to make excuses too--that was pathetic.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 3, 2009 11:51:05 GMT -5
I didn't hear Saban's remarks, but from what you all say, I fully concur. Bama was simply beaten by a better team last night. Even when Bama was making their run, you never had the idea that they were back in control. The were treated like the poor step-child for sure.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 3, 2009 13:23:16 GMT -5
8 sacks!!!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 3, 2009 13:24:28 GMT -5
Also, Alabama had given up 27 first quarter points all year, before Utah dropped 21 pts on them in the opening quarter. Somebody came prepared to play.
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Jan 4, 2009 19:40:30 GMT -5
Also, Alabama had given up 27 first quarter points all year, before Utah dropped 21 pts on them in the opening quarter. Somebody came prepared to play. or on the reverse tip, someone came unmotivated and as a result gave a lackluster performance
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Post by RDF on Jan 4, 2009 23:49:06 GMT -5
Alabama's offense sucked all year--unless it was the awesome play of Julio Jones making the Bama 3rd Turd--QB look functional. Never trust anyone named "John Parker Wilson" or "John David Booty"--they are 3rd turds.
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Post by RDF on Jan 4, 2009 23:50:32 GMT -5
How about OU DB's Nic Harris and Dominique Franks talking smack about Tim Tebow being the 7th best QB if he were in Big XII. If anyone is going to talk--let it be an OU offensive player. One of the morons from their defense yakking it up? Shut up, and stop any offense in a big game--one time. I'm talking REAL OFFENSE--not Texas Tech or Missouri too.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 5, 2009 3:05:34 GMT -5
How about OU DB's Nic Harris and Dominique Franks talking smack about Tim Tebow being the 7th best QB if he were in Big XII. If anyone is going to talk--let it be an OU offensive player. One of the morons from their defense yakking it up? Shut up, and stop any offense in a big game--one time. I'm talking REAL OFFENSE--not Texas Tech or Missouri too. This would really be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Nothing like giving the better team billboard fodder.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 5, 2009 11:47:40 GMT -5
Alabama's offense sucked all year--unless it was the awesome play of Julio Jones making the Bama 3rd Turd--QB look functional. Never trust anyone named "John Parker Wilson" or "John David Booty"--they are 3rd turds. You may be right on that one, and maybe I have been wrong. I actually thought that Wilson was a solid QB and one that had the makeup of hanging around in the NFL for quite a while. He's certainly not likely to be a "star," but I could see him as a Brad Johnson type of QB. His strengths were that he doesn't try to do too much and he doesn't make mistakes. Well, that worked fine for most of the year -- when they had the lead! But as soon as some adversity hit, then he wasn't up to the task. As for the OU players' comments: 7th best??? I would think that they were talking, in no particular order, Bradford, Harell, McCoy, Robinson and Daniel. Who else?
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Post by RDF on Jan 5, 2009 12:03:53 GMT -5
Josh Freeman is an excellent NFL prospect--maybe the best in Big XII imo. Bradford worries me a bit--I do love his accuracy and improvement but how will he do when he's getting hit? That is a question Freeman has answered and he didn't have any talent around him at all. I'd guess OU would put Robert Griffin ahead of Tebow too--but it's OU talking--so take with grain of salt--they have to say something to excuse their horrendous defense.
Why in the hell would you EVER want Brad Johnson type of QB? Even as a 3rd stringer. This guy was worst QB who ever got significant playing time at a major college program and in NFL. He never changed how he played and despite being a good guy--and benefitting from a great defense--he is on record saying that "there is nothing like getting booed after throwing a checkdown on 3rd and 15 and punting--because that is great football".
Will say that ANY QB who takes some snaps from under center and has to read coverages from that perspective is worthy of a look over the mess that is spread QB's at NFL level.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 5, 2009 23:13:35 GMT -5
Alabama's offense sucked all year--unless it was the awesome play of Julio Jones making the Bama 3rd Turd--QB look functional. Never trust anyone named "John Parker Wilson" or "John David Booty"--they are 3rd turds. You may be right on that one, and maybe I have been wrong. I actually thought that Wilson was a solid QB and one that had the makeup of hanging around in the NFL for quite a while. He's certainly not likely to be a "star," but I could see him as a Brad Johnson type of QB. His strengths were that he doesn't try to do too much and he doesn't make mistakes. Well, that worked fine for most of the year -- when they had the lead! But as soon as some adversity hit, then he wasn't up to the task. As for the OU players' comments: 7th best??? I would think that they were talking, in no particular order, Bradford, Harell, McCoy, Robinson and Daniel. Who else? Re: 7th best, I'm pretty sure the OU players did not make an actual list. Re: JPW, he was a serviceable QB for 'Bama this season mainly because he made better decisions with the football. Don't forget the kid was a turnover factory a couple of years ago. Not hurting your team doesn't make one an NFL-level QB. Re: the Fiesta Bowl, Texas is going to win but it's really been an ugly game. The 'Horns didn't really have a shot at an AP National Championship to begin with, but this unentertaining mess certainly isn't going to swing any voters.
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Post by RDF on Jan 6, 2009 1:03:00 GMT -5
No offense Austin-but tonight really makes me frustrated that we didn't see a USC-Florida game in Orange Bowl--or at least Utah vs someone--because I've been on Horns wagon prior to season--and all tonight did was justify any Big XII bashing. Ohio State was in position to win and they didn't belong on same field as USC. What's that say for Oklahoma going up against Florida? I just want a great game--between the BEST TEAMS--and under this system, I'm all for Utah getting a split--because we're not going to see UF tested at all--that is going to get UGLY in hurry and Gators vs Utes or Trojans would've been far better game then ANY Big XII team.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 6, 2009 7:40:59 GMT -5
as long as you have weeks, and sometimes a month +, between games you are going to get games like this. texas, IMO, was the best team in the country this year. odds are, one or both of the two national title teams will play the same way. it's hard to expect 18-22 year old kids to go from playing every week to taking a month off and still play at the same level.
if i see one more report about how OU disrespected everyones 'god' tebow i'm going to vomit. go OU!
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Post by hifigator on Jan 6, 2009 13:52:21 GMT -5
TO clarify, I just heard Heath Kline on the radio and he explained the comments by the OU defenders. The first guy, Franks, said that they had faced better quarterbacks and that Tebow would probably be the 4th best QB in the Big 12, presumably behind Bradford, McCoy and Harrell. It was his teammate, Harris that took it further. Heath Kline had heard the comment second hand and decided to ask him the question directly in the TV/Media room. That was when Harris reiterated that Tebow would probably be the 7th best QB in the Big 12.
Stoops tried to deflect any such talk. I don't have the paper with me, but basically he said that "you guys (media), get these kids to say things they don't really mean in the way you ask the questions, and that his guys were simply backing up their own conference. and that they didn't mean it as a slight to Tebow or the Gators." I don't believe that for a second, but that's what he intimated.
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Post by RDF on Jan 6, 2009 15:57:51 GMT -5
as long as you have weeks, and sometimes a month +, between games you are going to get games like this. texas, IMO, was the best team in the country this year. odds are, one or both of the two national title teams will play the same way. it's hard to expect 18-22 year old kids to go from playing every week to taking a month off and still play at the same level. if i see one more report about how OU disrespected everyones 'god' tebow i'm going to vomit. go OU! The "layoff" is a copout. You either bring it or you don't. Great teams/coaches use the layoff to dominate an opponent as Ohio State should've been. I mean they played 2 other BCS teams and scored a combined 9 pts in 8 quarters of football and they get 21 on Texas with a guy who is a damn WR playing QB and Jim Tressel's antiquated and idiotic offensive schemes--such as "lets have Wells run for 100 in first half and never give him ball in redzone". Texas was a team I liked prior to year--just like Penn State. I think they are a legit top 5 team--but I think the fact they played a mediocre Ohio State team--remember that Buckeye team played 3 good teams all year--lost to them all--and difference in games--one team ran them off field, another won on road with backup QB playing entire 4th quarter, and other had an entire month to prep and was at full strength and squeaked it out. Defense wins championships--which is why UF will run Chokelahoma off the field and we're deprived of a great matchup in BCS Title Game--again. Honestly--what you saw last night--and know of Ohio State--how can you honestly say that was the #1 team in country?
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Post by hifigator on Jan 6, 2009 16:14:51 GMT -5
Ohio State tried that lame "layoff" excuse a couple of years ago, amongst a litany of assorted excuses. First, they were flat because they didn't really feel that we deserved the shot to play them. Then they were disappointed to not have a shot at a rematch with Michigan. Then It was because Ted Ginn Jr. got hurt on the opening kickoff. (That's a strange one, since I don't remember him playing defense for them. We scored 41 points you know ...) and ultimately, it was the layoff. Sure, they had an extra 13 days off more than we did, but we still had essentially 5 weeks. All I know is that if we'd have been given another couple of weeks to prepare, then we really would have stomped a mudhole in them!
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 6, 2009 21:10:26 GMT -5
I still think that Texas belonged in the championship game, not Oklahoma. Yes, Texas didn't play that great yesterday, but we have seen many times when teams let down in a bowl because they didn't get picked for the one they thought they deserved. I don't buy the layoff excuse at all, but I posted before that the only chance OSU had was if Texas just didn't give a damn, and I think we saw some of that yesterday. The other point is that the bowl results would seem to indicate that the Big 12 was extremely overrated, and that the SEC, which looked like Florida, Alabama and a bunch of scrubs, was perhaps better than that after all. Neither of these trends bodes well for Thursday's game. I've been in the Florida blowout camp for weeks, and have seen nothing in these other bowls to change my mind. Also, I'm still waiting for someone to dump on the Pac 10.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 7, 2009 7:51:29 GMT -5
i don't care how texas played against osu, they won. they beat OU and i'd take them against florida.
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