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Post by RBHoya on Jul 10, 2008 14:25:50 GMT -5
What's the word on Spurlock? To be honest I think he is the next guy who is going to commit to us this summer. After that we'll see what happens with Kelly. In 2010 focus will switch back to guards, as it was in 2007. Morris, a point guard, and possibly Smith, though I'm not 100% he'll want to come with both Spurlock and Thompson here a year ahead of him. Will have better opportunities for PT elsewhere.
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 14:32:07 GMT -5
Roscoe won't play guard. I like Morris and Tyler and or Atkins for '10 to go with Roscoe
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 10, 2008 15:00:37 GMT -5
What's the word on Spurlock? To be honest I think he is the next guy who is going to commit to us this summer. After that we'll see what happens with Kelly. In 2010 focus will switch back to guards, as it was in 2007. Morris, a point guard, and possibly Smith, though I'm not 100% he'll want to come with both Spurlock and Thompson here a year ahead of him. Will have better opportunities for PT elsewhere. I don't think there's any way we take two more big guys in '09. If we take two, one has to be a guard.
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 15:04:17 GMT -5
A 2/3 and a 3/4.
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Post by RBHoya on Jul 10, 2008 15:55:15 GMT -5
Roscoe won't play guard. I like Morris and Tyler and or Atkins for '10 to go with Roscoe Meant Roscoe on top of some guards, not as one. Essentially I'm thinking/hoping the class will be what you said. I'm feeling pretty confident about Spurlock. Not quite HoyaChris confident but call it a hunch. I'm not sure what will happen with Kelly, but with Braswell out there's a spot that needs filling. Next year we'd have: Wright/Clark Freeman/Thompson/Wattad Summers/Spurlock/Mesh Monroe/Kelly/Vaughn Sims/Riley 13, and balanced enough to get by though there is not a ton of ballhandling. The next year DaJuan graduates, and Greg probably goes pro. Maybe we lose one other, I'm not sure. Wright/Clark/Thornton(or Atkins) Freeman/Thompson/Morris Spurlock/Roscoe Smith/Mesh Kelly/Vaughn Sims/Riley and suddenly we're a little guard heavy again. It's going to be interesting with Spurlock. I know a lot of people around here and on HR LOVE Roscoe, but the truth is that he is a 2010 kid who is being recruited by a ton of top schools. Just because we really want him doesn't mean we're getting him. Hairston obviously is the case in point. We could turn down Spurlock and push hard for Roscoe, but if you do that there's a real chance you get neither.
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 16:01:13 GMT -5
I think Dajuan is gone. Interchangeable guard/forwards are essential. In '10, interchangeable PG's/SG's are essential.
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Post by RDF on Jul 10, 2008 23:36:22 GMT -5
I have heard different about Ryan Kelly then HoyaChris--and believe me--a lot of other schools are using it against Georgetown in recruiting.
Speculate all you want--but what did the HEAD COACH say to Hoya fans about his priority in terms of recruiting talk? He wanted MORE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR '10 class. I'm paraphrasing here, but it was along lines of "I've got 2 scholarships now-one this year and one next--I'd like to have more for the '10 class"--and then Braswell is gone--there is 3 available.
Now if III is saying that--why wouldn't we believe him? 2010 class is deeper with high talent then '09 and if an '09 player is to come--don't be shocked to see it in the Spring after evaluation is done and need for next year is addressed. That might mean someone we don't even know about.
Ryan Kelly is NOT committed--is NOT a lock.
Spurlock is a great kid and we should know what he's doing soon--but I wouldn't be shocked to see him at UVA or Clemson.
Vinson--I still think he ends up elsewhere.
Kelly--is a talented kid offensively--but he is a liability at the defensive end of court--and right now his position is filled with capable players. Question is--do you prefer Kelly or Hairston? From III's comments--I'm going to say Hairston. He's had an offer longer, he's been a priority of the program and when the coach got his 2 priority recruits in '09 locked up--Hollis and DaShonte--the focus shifted to underclassmen.
In fact--don't be shocked to see Mouph Yarou end up as coveted as Kelly by end of this HS season.
Josh Hairston, Roscoe Smith, Jason Morris, and Tyler Thornton have OFFERS and have had offers for a long time. A lot more is being made of the Kelly situation due to III coaching him with Team USA--and fact he's a very, very good player, and rumor from someone. Rumors on internet can be used against a school and in this case are--so I'd be careful about talking about '09 "locks" when Hoya Staff is making '10 their focus with their top targets locked up. They will add some names after evaluation period in all classes--but '10 Hoya Roster is loaded--and no rush to add someone is needed.
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Post by RDF on Jul 11, 2008 2:09:37 GMT -5
Tristan Spurlock has a visit scheduled for August 4th to see Georgetown-so his plan of deciding at Peach Jam appears to be pushed back. Also down to 5 schools and Hoyas are only non-ACC school.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 11, 2008 8:35:48 GMT -5
Scout.com reports a Georgetown assistant was at the Kentucky Hoopsfest yesterday watching the following players:
Harrison Barnes (2010 small forward from Iowa, top 10 player) Marques Teague (2011 point guard from Indianapolis, brother plays at Wake Forest) Ryan Taylor (2011 sf/pf from Indianapolis)
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Post by idhoya on Jul 11, 2008 9:16:15 GMT -5
Its really down to Hoyas and UVA for Spurlock.
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Post by RBHoya on Jul 11, 2008 11:26:43 GMT -5
Question is--do you prefer Kelly or Hairston? From III's comments--I'm going to say Hairston. You usually know better than me but on the surface I'd disagree, that doesn't seem like that's the question at all. I missed a few weeks of recruiting action when all the stuff with Hairston was going down, but from going back and reading everything I am reasonably sure that Hairston is not coming to Georgetown. Yes he's still officially listing us and there's a small chance but I really don't see it happening. Sometimes it isn't just a question of who we prefer, but a question of who likes us. I think most people who follow recruiting (including the Georgetown staff) view Hairston as a better prospect than Kelly--though both are certainly top-flight, five star types. But if Kelly does want to come--and I don't know whether he really does or not--then I definitely don't think you can turn him down to try and save the spot for Hairston. Josh is looking to committ in the relatively near future (ie before basketball season), and at this moment I'd say our chances of landing him are far below 50%, in fact they are probably less than 20%. So it would be foolish to pass on a very talented kid like Kelly in the hopes that we get lucky and Hairston comes back around. Sometimes it isn't just a question of who we like better. If only it were that easy. Of any recruit out there right now, '09, '10, or '11 I think most of us would take Hairston before anyone else. But the kid likes Duke and some other schools, and IMO will go to one of them. So be it. We are too strong of a program right now to get to let one recruits choice really bother us. There are a lot of other good forwards out there that like Georgetown, including Kelly. I think Coach should and will continue to recruit both Hairston and Kelly, and probably Mouph as well. But since I think Hairston will not be a Hoya, I expect that our coaches will go hard after Kelly/Mouph because with Braswell out, we could be looking at a somewhat thin frontcourt if we have early entrants.
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Post by RDF on Jul 11, 2008 12:10:31 GMT -5
It's also a situation where other schools use bogus info and fill kids heads with bullcrap that is NOT true. I'm not being a know it all here RBHoya, I am just telling you what I know as a FACT--and these people would know what is being said about Georgetown to recruits and that is all I will say about this on the public forum.
As for Kelly--he's a fine player and yes-he's being considered/recruited, etc... but Josh Hairston was bigger priority and still is until he makes a decision. Without spilling what is said in Ron Bailey's interview on HoyaReport--I think my comments are supported. When you have other teams telling you something and false information being talked about--Ryan Kelly is NOT a Hoya and he's not even close to committing at this time--it is used against you. People go to sites and talk up how a guy isn't a "fit" for a program, etc.. when that program has been with the kid since day one, offered a scholarship before other programs, and made him a top priority.
As for Josh Hairston--if he listens to coaches who want to badmouth/lie about Hoya recruiting--he just chose to believe them and wish him well. If he really likes Georgetown and just is confused about what is going on with their recruiting--well that is easy to clear up--and after we were not seen--Hoyas re-emerged on list and are in this recruitment until he decides.
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 11, 2008 13:59:14 GMT -5
Why doesn't someone tell us what is being lied about concerning Georgetown?
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Post by idhoya on Jul 11, 2008 14:54:02 GMT -5
They're using the "do you really wanna play in that system", "they don't run", "you won't be featured", "you won't get a chance to shine", "we can make you a superstar; you'll start from day one" type of stuff. Plus the usual bald face lies. I guarantee someone is saying "they don't recruit white guys, why'd you wanna go there" stuff with Kelly. Guarantee.
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Post by RDF on Jul 11, 2008 15:44:49 GMT -5
IDHoya is the 1 million dollar winner on "How to Hate on Georgetown". His prize--going to the Peach Jam and hanging out with some of the scum who have been spreading the lies.
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Post by jhoyafan on Jul 11, 2008 15:58:35 GMT -5
While it definitely sucks to hear coaches are spreading that garbage does it really suprise anyone? Thats been the knock on us for awhile now - that we don't run or no player will average more than 15 pts a game in our system.
It doesn't make it any better but I'm not shocked.
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Post by sleepy on Jul 11, 2008 16:02:01 GMT -5
. Plus the usual bald face lies. I guarantee someone is saying "they don't recruit white guys, why'd you wanna go there" stuff with Kelly. Guarantee. That doesn't even make sense, if we don't recruit white players, why would we be recruiting Ryan Kelly?
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Post by prhoya on Jul 11, 2008 16:51:04 GMT -5
All those rumors are easily put aside by the fact that JT3 has helped 3 under-the-"rankings"-radar to the NBA. All of them averaged less than 15 ppg. It's the system.
I can see how it can be used against GU with Top 10 talent. But Greg didn't buy it. All the negative rumors will end when Monroe succeeds here. Heck, JT3 can turn it and use it against the other coaches, i.e. Did you see what happened to DaMarcus Nelson?
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 11, 2008 17:16:37 GMT -5
All the negative rumors will end when Monroe succeeds here. [/size] Wish that were true, but they'll come up with some other negative stuff to throw at us. JT3 doesn't recruit that way. People who respond well to JT3 are exactly the kind of people -- the recruits AND their families - that we want.
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Post by idhoya on Jul 11, 2008 18:02:07 GMT -5
I don't blame the kids so much cause it what tv media does. You hear something drained into your head long enough, you begin to believe it. If it comes from multiple places it's easier to believe.
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